06-08-2015, 10:12 AM bill10 Rare it is BPEL 7 EG 5.5 NBPEL 6.5 Flaccid length 4.5. Started Jan 2015 at bpel 6.5 nbpel 6.0 and eg 5.2 flaccid length was 3.5I have reached my goal. At least for now.