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Knowing whether you are limited by Dorsal Thickening/Septum

Originally Posted by marinera
The way those guys keep insisting it was something else etc. lead me to suppose it could be something else. Maybe Peyronie’ disease, maybe scar tissue due to traumatic events (perhaps too aggressive PE associated with predisposition to excessive collagenous production in wound healing).

The only thing I felt and exclude right now is that it can be a tendon or any other bodypart that other people don’t have, because it would be like having three eyes, if it’s clear what I mean.

But fibrotic tissue inside penis ain’t such rare phenomenon.

From what I’ve felt (and no anatomical knowledge), it seems to me that it would be some strengthening of the deposits along some pre-existing structure (the DT?).

Didn’t Fire Goat rule out scar tissue as a common result of PE?

If it was scar tissue, I can’t see why it would just occur along this line right in the middle of the dorsal side. Maybe it’s due to the contact point between the two CC’s?

This is an interesting picture (drawing) showing how surgery for Peyronie’s disease works.

From all the photographs I’ve seen so far, the majority of the penises curve upwards (as do mine and IA’s, I think). The plaque also seems to usually be allotted on the dorsal side of the CC.

The thing is, my upward curvature is not in the majority of the tunica. the curvature is primarily at the base, due to changes in the exit point. I do not have a penis with a clear upward curve, as you will see in the photograph’s of Peyronie’s disease.

Additionally, for anyone else that did not realize this: plaque here means deposits of scar tissue.

Anyway, I doubt its Peyronie’s disease primarily because it is consistent and located in one place, to the degree that it feels like a chord.

“Usually the hardened plaque is characterized by feeling like a piece of “dead tissue” which neither hurts or feels pleasurable when touched.” <- This is not similar to my case. I have a chord that is very hard to notice unless I palpate while stretching the flaccid.

Originally Posted by LongVehicle

…If it was scar tissue, I can’t see why it would just occur along this line right in the middle of the dorsal side. Maybe it’s due to the contact point between the two CC’s?

Scar tissue (and thus Peyronie’s) can occur anywhere up or down the shaft. But, it is almost always palpable. As Modesto has pointed out, this hardened tissue can be felt after the erection subsides.

An upward curve (a banana shape :) ) is commonly seen in erections.


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Originally Posted by ThunderSS
You can link to the source though.

Lost the think and can’t find it. Searching “Peyronie’s Disease” on Google images will yield multiple illustrations of the disease, mostly with the scar tissue deposited in between the two sections of the CC on the dorsal side.

I don’t think I have Peyronie’s Disease, but the pictures freaked me out.

Now,

Originally Posted by LongVehicle
I have a chord that is very hard to notice unless I palpate while stretching the flaccid.

and before:

Originally Posted by LongVehicle
It is hard to the touch when flaccid, at least harder than the CC, from what I can tell (through palpating)…though I am not as sure about this.

You appear to be saying opposite things in these posts, and this is really the lynchpin of the discussion. Are we talking about one phenomenon (dorsal thickening, at various degrees of thickness) or two (DT and Peyronie’s-type plaques). The first post sounds like plaques, but the more recent one sounds like an ordinary, though perhaps thick, DT.


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Last edited by ModestoMan : 03-23-2010 at .

Try to avoid the ‘Medical Encyclopedia’ psychological effect, people. You know, you read “Tumors can have as fisrt symptoms a light tingling sensation in the throat” and suddenly you start pondering “I do feel a tingling sensation : I have cancer!”. :)

I have had this chord since the beginning. Yes before even starting PE, ruling out the option of it being plaque or something that has been built up through exercise.

My penis does not curve upward either. This “Chord” just feels like a tendon that when I stretch straight up completely flaccid that I can feel where it connects right by the base of my asshole.

It’s probably a tough tendon. But maybe we can stretch it out by using low force and alot of heat. Other than that, hanging and stretching manually has done nothing by make my dick smaller. Sometimes the truth is simpler than we may think.

Can you feel that cord when your penis is flaccid Budz? Is there a lot of difference between your EL and FL?

Originally Posted by budz
My penis does not curve upward either. This “Chord” just feels like a tendon that when I stretch straight up completely flaccid that I can feel where it connects right by the base of my asshole.

Are you sure you’re talking about the same thing? It’s the “ventral thickenings” on either side of your CS that attach to your bulbocavernosus muscle near your anus. The “dorsal thickening,” what we’re talking about here, is on the side opposite the CS and connects to your pubic bone via the suspensory ligament.


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Just throwing my two cents in. I have an upward curve and feel the “chord” like structure. But I’ve noticed that stretching to the left, right, down left, and down right by passes the limiting characteristics of it. When stretched in those positions, I can touch and feel the cord on the top of my penis but do not feel it resisting the stretch nearly as much when I stretch straight out. Same goes for BTC.

Originally Posted by ModestoMan
You appear to be saying opposite things in these posts, and this is really the lynchpin of the discussion. Are we talking about one phenomenon (dorsal thickening, at various degrees of thickness) or two (DT and Peyronie’s-type plaques). The first post sounds like plaques, but the more recent one sounds like an ordinary, though perhaps thick, DT.

Sorry for the misunderstanding, MM.

What I meant was that it is hard to notice when flaccid and not stretched and noticeable when flaccid and stretched. In the first case, I think I can feel the chord. In the second, it is extremely clear.

Originally Posted by marinera
Try to avoid the ‘Medical Encyclopedia’ psychological effect, people. You know, you read “Tumors can have as fisrt symptoms a light tingling sensation in the throat” and suddenly you start pondering “I do feel a tingling sensation : I have cancer!”. :)

Grazie, marinera. I have been freaking out since reading about Peyronie’s :) .

Originally Posted by UM1991
Just throwing my two cents in. I have an upward curve and feel the “chord” like structure. But I’ve noticed that stretching to the left, right, down left, and down right by passes the limiting characteristics of it. When stretched in those positions, I can touch and feel the cord on the top of my penis but do not feel it resisting the stretch nearly as much when I stretch straight out. Same goes for BTC.

I just tried this, but the chord is taut in all directions.

Upon further examination, I noticed that this “chord” is loser at the base of the penis. In other words, I can separate it more from the tunica at the base than the top. At the top, I can feel a hard section in the middle that SEEMS to continue from the bottom, but the bottom part of the chord is more grabbable.

Maybe the bottom is some ligament? And the top, which feels joined, is just a usually tough section at the meeting point of the two CC’s? Maybe this has caused an illusion of one unified chord.

The reason the ligament idea came into mind is that Bib, on his forums, talked about being able to palpate his ligament attachments on the base of his penis. If I am not mistaken, it was pretty far up too, maybe a few inches, where he could feel them and physically grab them. I thought he meant on the sides of the tunica…in my case this seems to be the case in the middle, where the base of the “chord” exists. Note: this was through the results of his growth from hanging, ie it was implied that this was a result of the growth from hanging, not a natural state.

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