I think what we are trying to say is that once you reach the threshold of a lig or tendon having enough trauma this is the most crucial time for you to keep the penis extended and this is were actual growth phase will begin, but before this time we are only working up to this point to cause the trauma to the ligs and tendons. The body is in a constant state o0f healing once something is damaged.
In the normal setting we want things back to normal but with PE we are trying to use this weakened state to cause the body to have to adapt to the new stretch length. If the body can’t heal in a retracted state then it will make new tissue to fill in the gaps in the extended state.
If someone thinks the penis grows in another way for length I would like to hear what it is but this is the only way I can think of permanent length gains from a stretching only program.
Jelqers and guys that gain from manuals other then newbie gains are a very small group I am not say that they make up a small part of PE but when I read posts I find that lots of guys will spend several months doing manuals with no gains but when I read guys who hang and extend for x number of hrs they seem to all get gains some faster then others but they all get gains this is just my observation.