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Originally Posted by 32quarters
These sites are using bpel, and you always straighten a curve as best you can.

Self-measured studies bpel then yeah you can compare your own measured standing bpel. Newest study of this kind got result of 16,78 cm (6,6") average length. Quite different than researcher measured results.

https://onlinel ibrary.wiley.co … .1111/and.14053

When researcher measures you. The closest you can get measuring yourself is standing non bone pressed.

Bone pressed self measured results are shit in my opinion. Depending where and how hard pressing to pubic bone I can get 1,5cm (0,6") different result. Guy who has stretched ligs can press down under pubic bone and get results like me where bone pressed and none bone pressed has 4-5 cm difference.

You need to learn how to measure properly. Read this:

How to Measure Your Penis


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

Originally Posted by 32quarters
You need to learn how to measure properly. Read this:

How to Measure Your Penis

I have measured every way thousands of times and saw how much different results are. By simply tilting pelvis gain/lose +/- 0,5". Just impossible to accurately compare different guys measurements.

For PE purposes for myself I use nowadays only nbpel pelvis tilted maximally.

The study I linked 4685 Italian men self measured bone pressed 16,78 cm (6,6") average would be closest what one can self measure at home. CalcSD western BP 14,4 cm is not comparable to your at home taken bone pressed measurements.

Measuring nbpel does not provide accurate measurement of a penis, nor does tilting the pelvis. Tilting will artificially increase the length.

Sliding the ruler under the pubic bone is incorrect. To slide under the pubic bone one needs to hold the ruler flat, which is incorrect.

Self measured studies have consistently shown to have greater measurements than studies where measurement was conducted by medical professionals. It seems that guys tend to over inflate their measurements when they self report it.


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

I agree, NBPEL measurement is useless to track progress. Even for a one time comparison, because it will be subject to your body fat. If you are exercising your penis and at the same time gaining waist weight, you will never see progress and perhaps you will see a reduction in size.

On the other hand, I can stop doing PE, diet down to burn all my pubic fat, then claim that my penis grew. Nope, it never did, the fat pad went down, but the penis stayed the same.

How to measure consistently true size?: Bone Pressed, as hard as possible against the bone using always the same spot.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by Trapezius
CalcSD western BP 14,4 cm is not comparable to your at home taken bone pressed measurements.

And why is that?


"If you desire one thing for so long, it is a given that you will miss other things along the way. That is how it is... that is life."

It’s hard for me to completely believe the stats they use to calculate. Mostly because my pre-PE numbers would put me at 92nd percentile for length and girth. I never thought of it as small but 1.5 more voluminous than average? It just doesn’t seem like it could be correct. Maybe if they gathered up 10,000 random men and measured them and I (current numbers) ended up in the top .2% of those I would believe it. Maybe.

Originally Posted by FutureBigShock
And why is that?

Because circumstances are different and measuring method is not that researcher pushes ruler with furious force inside you and straightens your upward curve nicely. In other forum there was a guy who had been in one size study and claimed that they measured over 2cm less than what he himself measures at home.

Researcher measured is no way comparable to at home self measured.

Originally Posted by 32quarters
Measuring nbpel does not provide accurate measurement of a penis, nor does tilting the pelvis. Tilting will artificially increase the length.

If I measure to myself I get most consistent result with tilting pelvis always the same.

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Self measured studies have consistently shown to have greater measurements than studies where measurement was conducted by medical professionals. It seems that guys tend to over inflate their measurements when they self report it.

It seems that guys are not 100 % erect when measured by some researcher and researcher bone pressed is not same as when you jam ruler to the bone with furious force to see bigger number.

To compare yourself to studies you would have to go in study and be measured my someone else. When self-measuring the closest would be compare to self-measured.

I remember at lunch in the 3rd grade or something like that, I was quite young, some other kid just randomly said “did you know the average guy’s dick is 6 inches long”? It always stuck with me. Not sure where the kid heard that. I do feel like 6 inches is the benchmark for a satisfactory erect dick though.

Originally Posted by Trapezius
If I measure to myself I get most consistent result with tilting pelvis always the same.

Consistency is important, but your method measurement is not the normal and accepted process. Your measurement method generates larger results. Inaccurate, but larger. If you want a really large measurement, measure on the bottom. It’s not accurate but the measurement will be bigger.

Originally Posted by Trapezius
It seems that guys are not 100 % erect when measured by some researcher and researcher bone pressed is not same as when you jam ruler to the bone with furious force to see bigger number.


You took one person’s anecdote and extrapolated it to the entire process. Sure some guys get “ruler shy” when a researcher is measuring their penis. It is also true that some guys get “ruler shy” or “camera shy” when they are alone and trying to measure and take a picture of it.

This does not invalidate the process.

Bone pressed is the accepted process for measuring the penis. It is used by the medical profession, researchers and most important for this conversation, it is the acceped and expected form of this forum.

Why anyone would press the ruler in with furious force is a mystery to me. The guidance here and elsewhere is firm force.


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

Originally Posted by Trapezius
To compare yourself to studies you would have to go in study and be measured my someone else. When self-measuring the closest would be compare to self-measured.

This is completely false.
You do not need to be measured by someone else just to compare yourself to studies. You just have to measure yourself the same way as they did in the study.
Serious studies should provide information about how they measured their objects.

Self-measured studies are crap for few reasons.
1) Most of the guys lie, even if they are anonymous.
Therefore the report is not valid.
2) Participants does measure themselves in different positions. Some will tilt their pelvis, like you, some will sit while measuring, and etc etc etc…


"If you desire one thing for so long, it is a given that you will miss other things along the way. That is how it is... that is life."

Originally Posted by Trapezius
Self-measured studies bpel then yeah you can compare your own measured standing bpel. Newest study of this kind got result of 16,78 cm (6,6") average length. Quite different than researcher measured results.

https://onlinel ibrary.wiley.co … .1111/and.14053
………….

This is the analysis calcsd reports for the above referenced Di Mauro study. They point out significant flaws with the study.

From calcsd:

Di Mauro et al. 2021
Data:
Authors: Marina Di Mauro, Camilla Tonioni, Andrea Cocci, Luis A. Kluth, Giorgio Ivan Russo, Juan Gomez Rivas, Giovanni Cacciamani, Gianmartin Cito, Girolamo Morelli, Gaia Polloni, Fabrizio di Maida, Daniel Giunti
Source: https://doi.org … .1111/and.14053
Country: Italy
Measurements: Self-reported, BP length, Shaft girth
n: 4685
Averages:
Erect Length: 16.78cm (SD 2.55) - 6.61" (SD 1.00)
Erect Girth: 12.03cm (SD 3.82) - 4.74" (SD 1.50)
Flaccid Length: 9.47cm (SD 2.69) - 3.73" (SD 1.06)
Flaccid Girth: 9.59cm (SD 3.08) - 3.78" (SD 1.21)
Notes:
The males sampled were gathered from andrological consultations, and included an appreciable proportion of likely undeveloped/underaged males, so it isn’t the most ideal sample, but at least it is one of very few self-reported studies where the researchers tried to standardize measuring methodology. It is quite remarkable how this study is almost identical in design to any of the other clinical studies with only the difference of having self-measurement rather than researcher measurement, and yet the result is such an extreme difference in SDs. The high SDs are easily explained as the addition of inter-measurer variation, rather than a reflection of the actual variability of penis size in a population. In other words, they probably didn’t do a good job of ensuring that people measured correctly. The many unreasonable consequences from the results of self reported studies like this depict a cautionary tale against relying on them for actual information. For example it has around 20% of guys too small and 10% of guys too big for the smallest and largest condoms in the world… probably mostly because of some ill-advised individuals measuring width, though the study’s unreliability from other biases reaches all the measures. Self-reported studies are a reflection of what people claim rather than what people have.


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.


Last edited by 32quarters : 07-11-2021 at .

Originally Posted by FutureBigShock
This is completely false.
You do not need to be measured by someone else just to compare yourself to studies. You just have to measure yourself the same way as they did in the study.
Serious studies should provide information about how they measured their objects.

Self-measured studies are crap for few reasons.
1) Most of the guys lie, even if they are anonymous.
Therefore the report is not valid.
2) Participants does measure themselves in different positions. Some will tilt their pelvis, like you, some will sit while measuring, and etc etc etc…

Measure “same way” like in studies at home and go to study to be measured by someone else and most of cases the result will be smaller when someone else is measuring. For myself I can quarantee that I would not be 100 % EQ when some researcher is measuring me. Only way would be injectable ED drug like PGE-1, but even then in my experience glans is not fully erect and measurement not as big.

Honestly, I wish I weren’t so concerned with my penis size. I think it points to feeling insecure about my place in life, in general, and how people view me, aside from my penis.

I wanted to create a new thread on this notion alone, but I don’t have enough posts under my belt yet, as I just joined recently.

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