Penis Size: The True Average

Agreed.
It’s particularly strange it’s so rarely properly researched since this subject would attract a huge amount of readers and hence be good for the advertising revenue of all those publications that print it. It would also bring fame to the researchers.
Maybe it’s because those on the low side of the scale are much less likely to volunteer to take part and the research would be skewed.
It might work better if groups are paid a nominal amount for the test but they only get paid if all of them take part (those refusing would draw attention).
True BPEL must also be quite difficult to achieve in those conditions, BPFSL would be much easier.
Or maybe if a machine did the measuring more anonimously people would be more likely to come forward. Say some kind of vacuum device.

The problem here is that vacuum devices can easily direct someone past their normal maximum, and as everyone here knows BPFSL can vary quite significantly from BPEL.

I think the best way to handle it would probably be chemically induced erections via sildenafil or something similar. Researchers would have to set some sort of standard of hardness that qualifies as “full erection”, and any who do not achieve it would be excluded from the results. Men under the age of 25 should probably be excluded as well since growth can continue until then. That’s going to rule out most college students which are normally your best pool for research studies. Paying the subjects is probably the best way to avoid a skewed set of volunteers.

To make it a really large-scale study however, it’s got to have pretty major funding. It’s hard to see much in the way of funding for that coming from public sector grants. That leaves private sector funding and that is usually profit driven. I don’t see a direct route from this research to making money, which is probably a significant component of why there are so few studies of significant size.

Then comes the question of whether they are going for a national average or a global average. In either case, do they gather their research subjects without regard to ancestry or region? Do they look for a specific cross-section in order to determine if there is any statistical difference between various subsets of society? We’ve all heard the stereotypes, and I would consider it poor science to ignore the possibility. If they do look into that component however, it opens a whole other can of worms that makes the study problematic to conduct from a political correctness standpoint. In the US, that is a major hurdle when it comes to research conducted in universities.

I agree with everything you’ve said.

For sure any type of study that focuses on differences between races is completely off the table right now. Sadly we are entering another dark age for science.

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I have a theory that penis is shrinking with the younger generation. My teenage years my friends did a penis length comparison and the five of us were all above 6 inches long non bone pressed. The longest was 8 inches non bone pressed. This was early 70s. Just might explain why Masters and Johnson was longer than today’s measurement.

This is possible. A significant facet of this may be that in the last several decades, there has been a sharp rise in both processed food consumption, plastic dishware and utensils, etc. Most heavily processed foods are packed with estrogen and estrogen precursors. Plastics, particularly when heated, will out gas estrogen precursors. Even BPA free plastics, though they do so to a lesser degree. There are several other common estrogen boosters that men today are subjected to on a daily basis as well. Factory farming, common obesity, etc.

We know that one of the primary selectors of penis size is hormone levels during puberty. It didn’t seem a stretch to posit that elevated estrogen levels during puberty would result in a smaller penis. It may be the same reason that in the last 30 years, the average breast size in the United States has gone from a B-cup to a D-cup. What’s more, puberty in girls is beginning 2 to 3 years sooner than it did in the 80s.

Very interesting. But If you look at "Table 1. Summary of studies of penis length (in chronological order)", you will notice
nearly all the studies are already included in the Calcsd dataset. However, good the author states some obvious things:
"Could it be that men who agree to report the size of their penis have larger penises than those who do not volunteer?"
Well, what would you suggest hahah.
Also, I think Gurks made the thesis the social desirability of a large penis increases and the study confirms that more or less.
Since Im rather young, I was oblivious to that fact, but it indeed makes sense that kind of a cult develops.
Good for the 1 out of 10.000 men who do PE, but bad for the other 9999 I guess.

It is both unlikely you all five measured correctly above 6 inches and the shrinking in modern times, too.
Not impossible, but I personally doubt both things. If you look at the old data, https://www.tan dfonline.com/do … 3X.2020.1787279
Schonfeld & Beebe, 1942 measured 13.08cm stretched in the USA. Way before all the factors Gurks mentioned took place.
Besides, not everyone lives in the US. Across all countries, studies have been done and penis size does not differ that much.
Although eating habits, obesitiy, plastics usage vary greatly. I also doubt condom size did change in the last 50-60 years which might also be an indicator.
It is hard to disprove sth 100%, but first I want prove FOR it to believe it. If you look at the height for example, our diet is not really that bad globally.
People did not shrink, they grew! Why should their dick shrink since the 60, 70s or whatever.

Yes, a meta analysis of existing studies. I felt the analysis and critique was interesting. I assumed all self reporting caused inflated results but the other noted deficiencies and biases in the higher reported average size studies was somewhat enlightening.

I’m not sure by any means if average size is shrinking or not. It’s an interesting premise though. I’ve been reading for years about how average testosterone levels in men have been falling. I can’t help but wonder if the tend has an effect on puberty.

Regardless, I doubt any of the things I mentioned in my previous post would be pervasive enough to have skewed the average significantly.

Got it!

Sorry for being lazy, but I wonder if you have it handy to show:

"Besides, not everyone lives in the US. Across all countries, studies have been done and penis size does not differ that much."

I personally believe Europeans are among the larger on the planet, Africans clustered around the central western portion the largest, Indians and Chinese the smallest. I think there is a very large difference between, for example, Ghana and South Korea. I think and equally large difference between Ghana/Nigeria to Ethiopia/Somalia

The reality is that technology exists to get perfectly accurate data but it would be time consuming and expensive. Manual measurement will never be adequate, even when performed by professionals.

This is such a big area of interest, what needs to be done is drug induced maximum erection measured via MRI, taking measurement from the surface of the pubic bone to the tip of the glans. Everyone laying flat with no manual manipulation of tissue. No concerns about fat pads. No concerns about measurement angle. It would be easy to measure both the arc length and the chord length for those penises with curvature.

It is easy to overcome the self-selection bias with a properly funded study as well. This should not even be a question anymore. It should be as commonly recognized and acknowledged as height and weight across various demographics.

We measured correctly so myself and friends must all be outliers to the statistics. So we were all above average.

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