Penis Size: The True Average

I feel like there’s more of a constant cultural undertone surrounding penis size than there used to be. Maybe it’s merely my own perception, but it seems like there’s more common references all over television, rap music in particular as you mentioned, gaming, etc. In multiple avenues or venues, to excel has become synonymous with having a big dick. If you’re confident, you have big dick energy. If you take command in a given setting then you’ve got big dick swagger. If you’re good at dealing damage in a video game you’re big dick DPS. I don’t remember it being nearly so ubiquitous when I was young. It seems to have just become culturally pervasive to me, and I can’t help but think that’s going to have (and perhaps already is) a devastating impact on the psyche of a lot of impressionable teenagers.

We’ve heard for years now about the impact that the fashion industry has had on the minds of young women. The nearly impossible standards of beauty set out in magazines and on television, leading to all manner of unhealthy neuroses. I think the same thing is going on with young men regarding the porn industry. It just isn’t getting talked about as much, for the same reason that you can show 86 bare breasts in a movie and still get an R rating, but if you show one erect penis it’s erotica. Perhaps, and hopefully one day it will be talked about openly.

Unfortunately, in better than half of this country (the United States) sex-ed still consists exclusively of abstinence only education. This, despite the fact that anyone of that age with access to a smartphone or a home computer can watch every conceivable sex act under the sun, at will. More importantly, they can watch it alone without a mature adult to put certain things in context and perspective for them. I think it’s a recipe for bad things.

Noticed this had not been posted here yet: https://drive.g oogle.com/file/ … s8-X8rgwUb/view

Even with self-reported numbers measured by 4002 participants, the global average wasn’t more than 14,34cm BPEL, and 11,74cm in girth. Only slightly more than the calcsd global average.

The average for whites came to be 14,93cm BPEL, by 11,89cm in girth. The averages for blacks, latinos, middle easterns and mixed people were basically identical to the white statistics, making the western average yet again only slightly higher than the calcsd western average.

This trend of slightly higher statistics could very well come from the increase in the level of arousal due to not being measured in a clinical setting. It’s also quite probable that people round up their own measurements.

I don’t think this is helpful honestly. If you look at the distribution on page 14, too many guys with BPEL >20cm IMO.
Also, self-reporting is bullshit. If you increase the average and the standard deviation gets bigger, you create more very big penisses than there really are.
This is a step backward compared to a real scientific study. Regarding arousal level, in some studies they injected a drug to create an artificial 100% erection.
So this is not really an argument. Rounding up is possible but how much do they round up? Also suspicious. Besides, if you are really small, you tend not to participate in such surveys.
Additionally, most guys cannot measure correctly BPEL. Dont tell me they don’t cheat a bit to get an additional 1-2cm because we all know how easy this is.
It is way better to have an external person measure with precision and objectivity.

I wasn’t really making an argument for the factuality of this survey in comparison to other studies, I just posted what I found and drew some conclusions I thought were sound.

I actually find it quite surprising that a survey like this didn’t result in a higher average.

Well, the goal of this thread is to find the actual true average and the link posted is better than most self-reported, yes.
But not ideal nonetheless. It is quite interesting but I would be extremely careful to draw conclusions from this.

A lot of PE”d cocks are at least 1” greater than avg. Many 1.5 and 2” and a few 3”. 6+2=8”. 6.5+1.5=8” 7+1=8”.

Yes. That’s why I use it—to get the higher, more accurate number. If I’m having sex with someone, you can be sure what they are interacting with is my curved penis, not some imaginary straight line extending from my pubic bone. I don’t care how long that imaginary line is.

I think the problem whit most of us it’s that the only dicks we know it’s our own and the ones from porn, making us believe a big dick is the average when it’s not, I used to think that as well when I was a virgin but when I started to have sex I realized most of guys are around the 5.7 inches which honestly it’s a pretty good size, I’m around that measure too and never had any complaint, mostly because gay guys really know about the most common sizes.

What do you guys think about that?

I guess you mean NBPEL then and that is from “handling” dicks with hands, mouth and the possibility to compare with your own. I ask you that because most men have +1 inch fatpad and if 5.7 is NBPEL then average in your opinion would be +6.7 BPEL and that is way over documented average. My own opinion is that average is around 6.5 BPEL and 5.5 NBPEL.

No Patrick, as a bi guy myself I’m pretty darned sure he means bone pressed, and I would agree with him.

Have any of you been around long enough to remember the “old” calc SD? This would have been about three years ago I’m guessing, maybe four.

I’d put in 7-3/4” BPEL and 5-3/8” mseg and it would tell me I was about 94% on length and 88% on girth.

Now when I put in 7-3/4” it says 99.9% on length and 5.5” 96.79% on girth.

I put more faith into the old figures. When you look at the results now, and read the article they reference, it seems apologist for the average guy.

Now, if you were writing an article or making a website that you’d like to appeal to the greatest number of people, wouldn’t you go for the average? You’d go broke trying to appeal to the top 5%, much better to target the 80% clustered around the mean.

The people who go out of their way to conclude the studies are wrong or are somehow lying or who wish to put anecdotes over date, are no different than conspiracy theorists who believe the Earth is flat.

It’s fine to question science with science but the level of disagreement here is “I just don’t feel it can be true!” That’s bogus.

It’s also harmful to perfectly sized men who will believe they are small.

In my opinion, I see these claims of larger averages being leveled mostly by bigger guys who want to justify their penis dysmorphia. While we should be compassionate to those who struggle with mental illness, it is unfair to make all of us share those delusions

Rant over

Couldnt agree more :-) .
You have to bring substantiated argument to counter the studies from CalcSD. A feeling is worthless.

I think it would be more fruitful to bemoan the general lack of good data and studies. This website is likely an aberration, but I don’t think its an exaggeration to say penis size is a topic of huge importance to a huge amount of men.

Can you think of anything else under the sun with such curiosity from such a large number of people that is so poorly studied?

When you dig into the data sources for calcSD you can see the data sets are small groups of people, inconsistent methodologies, not much in the way of racial or geographical variation, and other problems.

And I would argue that it’s something relatively easily studied, were there a will to do so.

This is true.