Real Size Vs Perception

Hi,

There’s this thought not letting go, about real size.
When I first started to read about TP bone presses measurements, I felt above average at almost 7 inches. I pushed a lot into the fat pad to get there. But my real size was 5.5 inches, and this is also the size others will see, this is also (more or less) the usable size. I was proud to be 7, in fact I was small.

I think that we should aim for a NBP size, no matter what we think that the studies are showing.
The average length might be 5.1 inches but this includes all countries and origins. I think there’s a difference between size in China / India and size in Netherlands. Just an example based on people height. It is also demonstrated a correlation between height and size.

(More, I have never seen big guys to insert their ruler into the testicles to want to be bigger. They all measure NBP)

So, do you think too that NBPEL is more important for our final purpose, aesthetics and functionality? (And, if so, stop thinking about being above average)

For me the Bone Pressed measurement is about consistency of measurements more than ego. It’s the only way I have found to get a consistent measurement. If you know of another way I’m all ears.

NBP is a useless measurement and entirely reliant on what your fat pad thickness is.

My useable length is a lot closer to my bone pressed measurement than it is to my non bone pressed measurement and that’s what actually matters, unless it’s to show off in the locker room, and in that case you’ll be that creepy dude with an erection in the locker room surrounded by other naked dudes.

But I get a bigger number when I measure BP.

NBPEL is the most important to me. BPEL is only for tracking results..

1) BPEL is the most accurate measurement
2) The medical profession uses BPEL
3) Thunders uses BPEL

NBPEL is the visible penis, but unless one has a very large fat pad then BPEL is the usable length.

I see it both ways. BP is the scientific standard. It levels the playing field so that you can more accurately measure a penis.

But when you say you “have never seen big guys to insert their ruler into the testicles to want to be bigger,” there’s truth in that, too. When you have it, you have it.

I think of it as visual size vs usable size. The fat pad compresses when you have sex, so BPEL is pretty close to how deep you can go. If you’re just going for visual appeal, then NBP is what you want. But you can gain NBPEL by just losing weight.

I agree with the ones before me, BP is for accurate measurement and tracking your progress. However, I think when you are in missionary and go balls deep then you might actually get to use those 7 inches or at least somewhat more than NBPEL.

Your point about the global average is reasonable too. You are not gonna “compete” with the global average but whatever is average in your location.

On a side note, I wonder how accurate actually are these studies about penis size. I have seen this site that collected the data about all the studies done in all the countries, and it even stated whether the data was measured or self reported.
Now a few things come to mind: If its self reported, then its easily possible that people will lie and give higher numbers because they are vain an saying they have 5 inches instead of 4.7 makes them feel better. Or the measurement is inaccurate because they don’t have the proper tools, or don’t measure BP lenght or some other reason.
On the other hand, if its measured by someone else (I guess a doctor or a researcher, I don’t know how these studies are done) then how do they make sure that the subject is fully erect? I honestly have no idea how these studies are conducted, but I can’t imagine getting 100% erect while someone doctor is measuring me (unless its done by a hot nurse I guess).

and this is also the size others will see, this is also (more or less) the usable size.

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I don’t know about anyone else but when I’m having sex, I bone press my fat pad. 😅
Grabbing her shoulders and pulling in I get a good extra half inch of penetration. 😎
Anyway, enough humor. Bone pressed is the only accurate way to measure. Too much variables in NBP to be consistent and reliable when guaging gains.
An increased BPEL would natural increase a NBPEL wouldn’t it?

If the BPEL has increased, the NBPEL has increased. If those measurements do not correspond, then look which is the false one.

Every time I have made gains, not only I could see them in both measurements, but also I could see them with the naked eye.

That’s all I can say.

About Real Size

So you got almost 4cm of fat pad. Of course your insertable penis will be smaller than your BPEL.

My BPEL is 20.6cm (measured yesterday) and NPBEL around 18.5~19cm, so I got around 2cm of fat pad, and mind you that I am 15% body fat, I gained fat +skin pad because of pumping, I didn’t had all that difference between my BPEL and NPBEL years ago before pumping.

About Perception

All the curves my dick has makes the illusion of a smaller penis, I can’t take a good picture of my erected penis from upward nor downward, nor left nor right. I don’t know whose size of the family I got this tortuous curved dick and how my motherfuckers ancestors kept breeding, I know for a fact that my brother’s dick has only upward curve. I know for a fact that my dick will APPEAR bigger when I grow more scrotum/ballsack because a good part of my scrotum’s skin mixed with my shaft skin under my dick, that made me lose testicle’s scrotum skin and this makes my balls closer to my penis. My final PE journey will be pumping my balls for scrotum, sheer size and girth of balls + for fun like Tiltleist.

I’m only getting a bit frustrated because I kept lying to myself about being above average for some time. That, in translation, creates a much bigger gap towards my future objective (8inches). If I’m going to target 8 inches NBPEL, being 5.5 now, that’s going to be a big challenge.
I was speaking to a girl the other day. Seems like she saw at least few hundred dongs, judging by her profession. She was saying that 8 inchers are not uncommon, and she even saw a 10 incher once, with minimum 7 inches in circumference.
That being said, when she said 8 inches, she was referring to the visible size.

That makes me panic a bit, because there’s a long distance between my actual stats and my future goals.
Of course, we can report our gains in BP, even if 2-3 mm will never make a difference (hydration, warmth, diet will play their part when, so it could be tricky to attribute those very small gains to PE)
But the gains people will see, (wife, girlfriends, etc) and bounce back to our ego, is NBP.
And the fat pad layer will never disappear. Even if you are all athletes, you’ll still have half an inch of fat, most will have between 1 and 2 inches. Even if we think it’s a hidden size reserve, it’s not, because that’s the hardest area to remove fat from. So no visual impact, and not much to be done about the fat pad.
And yes, when those “perfect dick size for women” articles are published, make sure that those 8 inches of generous sausage, is Non Bone Pressed.

The famous : there’s 8’inchers everywhere.

If you measure from the balls, only with your eyes - the common girl’s measurement style - yeah, that’s true.

And, I’m one of them then. Maybe 8,5 on a day I hang low.

Yay.

Ask her to have a look. See what her perception really is and how it relates to you. I’ve never been told I was the biggest, I have been told I was a good size, I have also been told I was the smallest, and not in a “shaming” kind of way. So who really knows? I think how you use it can alter perception just as much as how it looks when you pull it out.