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Originally Posted by raoul2307
I’m only getting a bit frustrated because I kept lying to myself about being above average for some time. That, in translation, creates a much bigger gap towards my future objective (8inches). If I’m going to target 8 inches NBPEL, being 5.5 now, that’s going to be a big challenge.
I was speaking to a girl the other day. Seems like she saw at least few hundred dongs, judging by her profession. She was saying that 8 inchers are not uncommon, and she even saw a 10 incher once, with minimum 7 inches in circumference.
That being said, when she said 8 inches, she was referring to the visible size.

That makes me panic a bit, because there’s a long distance between my actual stats and my future goals.
Of course, we can report our gains in BP, even if 2-3 mm will never make a difference (hydration, warmth, diet will play their part when, so it could be tricky to attribute those very small gains to PE)
But the gains people will see, (wife, girlfriends, etc) and bounce back to our ego, is NBP.
And the fat pad layer will never disappear. Even if you are all athletes, you’ll still have half an inch of fat, most will have between 1 and 2 inches. Even if we think it’s a hidden size reserve, it’s not, because that’s the hardest area to remove fat from. So no visual impact, and not much to be done about the fat pad.
And yes, when those “perfect dick size for women” articles are published, make sure that those 8 inches of generous sausage, is Non Bone Pressed.

Yea but how valuable is this data from this one girl? So what if she saw hundreds of dicks? I doubt she actually measured them so she could easily be off by an inch or two. Maybe larger people are more likely to use her services so even if she measured, its not gonna be an accurate representation of the average guy.
The average is somewhere between 5 and 6.5 inches, but that’s average, witch means there are gonna be 10-15% who are bigger than that, but also 10-15% who are smaller.

Originally Posted by raoul2307
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I was speaking to a girl the other day. Seems like she saw at least few hundred dongs, judging by her profession. She was saying that 8 inchers are not uncommon, and she even saw a 10 incher once, with minimum 7 inches in circumference.
That being said, when she said 8 inches, she was referring to the visible size.

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I believe her.
Penis size studies routinely report stumbling across a max 8”-8.5” BPEL.
8” is not that rare.


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Originally Posted by pantera2994
Yea but how valuable is this data from this one girl? So what if she saw hundreds of dicks? I doubt she actually measured them so she could easily be off by an inch or two. Maybe larger people are more likely to use her services so even if she measured, its not gonna be an accurate representation of the average guy.
The average is somewhere between 5 and 6.5 inches, but that’s average, witch means there are gonna be 10-15% who are bigger than that, but also 10-15% who are smaller.

Here’s my theory. If any gun is pointed at you is huge…women have zero real point of reference in each encounter, barring group settings of course. But, it’s all their guess. Like in porn, one can read how big name stars are no more than 7 to 7.5 inches…

Originally Posted by newyorktexan
Here’s my theory. If any gun is pointed at you is huge. Women have zero real point of reference in each encounter, barring group settings of course. But, it’s all their guess. Like in porn, one can read how big name stars are no more than 7 to 7.5 inches.

Hmmm. I really don’t know what to say here. Not aware how many open conversation have you had with women. I used to have lots of girls around me, friends, colleagues, etc.
I thought they are pretty exact when speaking about others sizes. They also take some references, then, they compare. They judge sizes based on their own reference system, and they can rely on more than one factor for this reasoning. (Hand size, wrist size, how much does they open their mouth during oral, how can they handle during deep throat, or how much space is left when jerking him off, or simply by measuring the palm, fingers and so on (for example, thumb and index finger at a 90degree angle.

My wife, recently told me that she measured one of her ex boyfriends dicks, and he was 7 inches (I guess it is NBP), and a bit thicker than mine (I am 5.2 in). Having his size as a starting point, she could approximate the longer, shorter, and thinner sizes. She still says I’m hung at 5.5 NBP, so I guess there’s a lot of crap behind this “women don’t know sizes, can’t approximate right”
I think they know it just right, but don’t want to hurt our ego, and, even from early ages they understand the male ego. And how easy it can be broken.
I have some more examples but I think I made my point.


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If a potential partner straight up asked your length, would you solicit the nbpel or bpel measurement? I have a strong hunch the vast majority of us (like 95% +) would go for the bone-pressed measurement.

However, if we’re talking science/studies, I still think bone pressed makes more sense because everyone’s fat pad is going to vary which will skew measurements.

For me personally, I’d like to get my nbpel closer to my bpel, and I’m pretty sure getting rid of my fat pad will be the # 1 means by achieving (perceived) length in the short-term. (whether through diet or diet + mons pubis lipo).


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Originally Posted by Determined2Gain
If a potential partner straight up asked your length, would you solicit the nbpel or bpel measurement? I have a strong hunch the vast majority of us (like 95% +) would go for the bone-pressed measurement.

However, if we’re talking science/studies, I still think bone pressed makes more sense because everyone’s fat pad is going to vary which will skew measurements.

For me personally, I’d like to get my nbpel closer to my bpel, and I’m pretty sure getting rid of my fat pad will be the # 1 means by achieving (perceived) length in the short-term. (whether through diet or diet + mons pubis lipo).


Potentional partner? If you mean real women around asking me this, then I don’t say how hung I am, I even joke “there is no smaller dick than mine in this room.” to break the ice and have lots of laughs, I simply don’t say it, there is no need for it to engage in sex with women. Once when I was with a group of 2 other friends with 4 other women drunk on their apartment, girls were asking our dick sizes, the smaller of our guys he is 160cm said 16cm and thin, other that is 165cm said 17cm and thin, I that am 175cm said 19cm and thick, I was the last to say it and took some time to think if I should say it or not, they all laughed like I was hung like a donkey, the most beautiful of those girls said she used to have sex with this guy that she said had 25cm dick and thicker than her arm wrists (I know this guy number is fake), she said that he could bend his erected penis all around his groin line, we all laughed.
Now, if you mean in Tinder, I’ve been asked my dick size and have said to different women NBPEL and BPEL measurements, there is something magical to 20cm, similar to making 100k dolars in US, those are magical numbers that sparks glitter
and rainbow lasers when spoken. Thing is majority of the women, in Tinder, that I said my dick size I did not got laid, they asked for pictures. I only got laid with 2 women on those sex apps, uninstalled it, people there are crazy, they show the worst of mankind. My profile text only had my age, height, location and dominant.


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Originally Posted by raoul2307
Hmmm. I really don’t know what to say here. Not aware how many open conversation have you had with women. I used to have lots of girls around me, friends, colleagues, etc.
I thought they are pretty exact when speaking about others sizes. They also take some references, then, they compare. They judge sizes based on their own reference system, and they can rely on more than one factor for this reasoning. (Hand size, wrist size, how much does they open their mouth during oral, how can they handle during deep throat, or how much space is left when jerking him off, or simply by measuring the palm, fingers and so on (for example, thumb and index finger at a 90degree angle.

My wife, recently told me that she measured one of her ex boyfriends dicks, and he was 7 inches (I guess it is NBP), and a bit thicker than mine (I am 5.2 in). Having his size as a starting point, she could approximate the longer, shorter, and thinner sizes. She still says I’m hung at 5.5 NBP, so I guess there’s a lot of crap behind this “women don’t know sizes, can’t approximate right”
I think they know it just right, but don’t want to hurt our ego, and, even from early ages they understand the male ego. And how easy it can be broken.
I have some more examples but I think I made my point.

Everyone has their own experiences. I also know there are multiple articles “out there” that posit much what I suggested. I suspect it depends on how “scientific” the woman may be!😉 and, all guys are “hung” if they get the job done and mesh well with their partner.

My weight fluctuates about 40lbs so I always use BPEL for measurement, for accuracy.

I was with a girl recently who insisted I was ten inches when I obviously am not. I am above average however. I think she was partially joking/exaggerating, but I really couldn’t tell. I was thinking “you must not have any concept of how long an inch actually is but if you want to believe that, go right ahead” lol

Folks, we live in a day and time where both men and women are confused about what gender they are lol… of course monst women have no idea what an inch is nor do most males…

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