Originally Posted by comptop
If anyone has any thoughts on the difference between an ischemic priapism and clamping for four hours, I’d love to hear them. I’d also be curious to know of the longest clamping sessions anyone has read about on here, and the timeframe in which injuries have been reported.
Imo the difference is the edema build up. My understanding is the interstitial fluid build up on the outside of the tunica places stress on it and prevents it from actually growing. Some kind of pressure equalization safety system. The fluid is a sign of inflammation and if it wasn’t preventing expansion it’d be good but because it is it can contribute to potential peyronies because local fluid pressure can cause uneven pressure on the tunica and because local cell matrix acts differently from the larger organ the local topology can be distorted by inflammatory activity and accumulate uneven deposits of collagen. It’s why I don’t really believe in pumping, though I’m aware some people have gained from it. And there was one study on rat penises that used like 3x the pressure people here do, totally not safe. I’ve always been skeptical of them myself. I did try it once and felt super unnatural having what felt like my entire crotch sucked into a tube. Hurt my balls too.
Clamping is a different story. I like it but I don’t think it works as well as we think. I don’t think it puts enough strain on the tunica even in a hypoxic state. Will come back to this eventually when I’m done gaining length. Going to get that out of the way first before doing girth just in case gaining length is harder after girth.
I will say I’ve been reading Kyrpas heat threads and I think we need to find a way to include heat in a girth exercise. He mentioned some dangers of using ultrasound on a clamped penis to heat it which all seem like fairly significant issues to get past especially when trying to induce a hypoxic state.
This is a tricky one imo, we need to weaken collagen, but not too much because weak collagen is also a sign of no new collagen which means no growth. We also don’t want too much collagen because fibrosis. Therefore we want to speed up the metabolism of collagen and weaken the existing crosslinks so that they expand how we want them to. Therefore heat seems like an appropriate avenue combined with adequate stretch.
I’d like to explore the above further before jumping into any conclusions about hypoxia and its benefits as it seems unnecessary at this point (for me at least).
If anyone has any idea on what stretches, aside from maybe bundled stretches, would be good in a girth routine with heat drop them here.
I’d definitely advise to gain length before girth, if you want extra length as it will very possibly be more difficult later on after gaining girth.
11/14/2015 6 x5 1/8 -> 4/25/16-6 3/8 x5.5
Restart 3/24 @ 7.25BPEL / 6.5nbpel/ 5 3/8 meg
7/31/24 @ 8/ 7.25nbpel/ 5.375meg ~ lost 1/8 this month :(