Solution for hard girth gainers?

What makes a hard girth gainer? If it is the tunica that is the limiting factor for girth gains, does this mean that people who have a hard time gaining girth have a tougher, stronger tunica?

If that is that case would the solution for these people be to use very high intensity girth workouts? It would make sense for a tougher tunica to require more stress than a weaker one.

I believe this to be the case, but consider this:

Would it be possible for someone to start out with a very low intensity girth routine, slowly increase intensity, never gain, and end up overtraining? If so then what is the solution? Could there be other limiting factors besides the tunica? Does everybody who starts off slow and gradually increases intensity gain girth? If not, why?

I don’t know bunbuster but these thoughts are in my mind as well as in yours. I have never actually kept my girth routines, never. I haven’t gained anything from jelquing (nearly) so I have lost my interest for it. But I must get at least 0.5”. Otherwise sometimes when I loose my 100% erection till 60-70% the condom can slip and that´s dangerous :)

bun,

>What makes a hard girth gainer? If it is the tunica that is the limiting factor for girth gains, does this mean that people who have a hard time gaining girth have a tougher, stronger tunica?<

Yes, the strength of the limiting factors will vary from person to person. If a person has a hard time gaining girth it might also be a case of poor exercise technique, or lack of consistancy (among other things).

>If that is that case would the solution for these people be to use very high intensity girth workouts?<

As stated above, other factors come into play. It would be better to experiment with different techniques, to work on the actual technique, and to optimise rest days before going balls to the wall.

> It would make sense for a tougher tunica to require more stress than a weaker one.<

Yes. Or more time.

>Would it be possible for someone to start out with a very low intensity girth routine, slowly increase intensity, never gain, and end up overtraining?<

I dont think so, I think overtraining could be defined as ‘doing more work than is necessary to gain, leading to injury’. It is possible to do more than is needed to gain and not overtrain. Maybe not in terms of intensity, but in terms of time I think this is true. If you slowly increase intensity, you will have a good feel for what the workout is doing for you, and you will know if you need more or less. Eventually you will gain, or notice signs such as a better temporary girth, soreness in the tunica etc. These will indicate that you are approaching the needed stress levels, or already there.

>Could there be other limiting factors besides the tunica?<

Circulation is probably a big cause of non gaining, the blood flow must be improved. Of course, girth exercises will tend to do that by default, but I think BTB jelqing is #1 for this.

> Does everybody who starts off slow and gradually increases intensity gain girth? If not, why?<

No. They might not be consistant, missing workouts and such. They might have very poor circulation, or the time of their sessions, or rest day frequency may not be optimal. If all this is not an issue, yes they would gain when they reached the required intensity.

SS4

I am a very tough girth gainer, jelqing alone did NOTHING for my girth. I had to hit my girth with 100% erect ulis, squeezes, and bends. That FINALLY got the job done.

Gandolf, me too. Jelquing may be great for some folks, but it never felt right for me. The squeezes and bends were what I needed.

Are you saying that if you don’t have soreness then you should increase the intensity? What if you already have soreness but no gains? Should you continue to increase intensity even though your current routine is already making you sore?

When I say intensity, I’m talking about either intensity or time. Increasing the amount of work. Is there a better word to use to describe this?

It sound like what you are saying is that anybody can gain. That is good to hear. I’ve been working exclusively on girth for 4 months and havn’t seen a real gain yet. I recently realized that my routine was very inconsistent. I would work 5-6 days per week but with no set routine. I’ve decided to start over, this time with a game plan.

For the last week my routine has consisted of 20 minutes of very intense wet jelq (“Kegal jelq” at 80-90% erect) per day. While this is less than what I was doing before it seems to be causing more stress than my previous workouts. After 20 minutes my dick is swollen, especially near the glands where I get a large donut, and for the first time I’m feeling soreness.

If I don’t see gains within a month, I’ll start throwing in squeezes, Horse440s, and bends. I’ll keep slowly upping the intensity until I see gains.

Anyone else been at this a while and not gaining girth? This may be something to try.

bun,

>Are you saying that if you don’t have soreness then you should increase the intensity? What if you already have soreness but no gains? Should you continue to increase intensity even though your current routine is already making you sore?<

You can get soreness without gains, and gains without soreness. The point I am making is that experience will give you a better feel for workouts that are doing good for you.

>When I say intensity, I’m talking about either intensity or time. Increasing the amount of work. Is there a better word to use to describe this?<

Intensity and time are opposites. Intensity * Time = Work. Some guys can gain from longer sessions at lower intensity, some can gain from short but highly intense sessions, and some poor suckers like me need longer sessions and higher intensity than most use.

>It sound like what you are saying is that anybody can gain. That is good to hear. I’ve been working exclusively on girth for 4 months and havn’t seen a real gain yet. I recently realized that my routine was very inconsistent. I would work 5-6 days per week but with no set routine. I’ve decided to start over, this time with a game plan.<

Yeah, I believe anyone can gain. Persisting and being consistant with a good routine is the key, that and knowledge. Do make a game plan, and be very tenacious about it.

>For the last week my routine has consisted of 20 minutes of very intense wet jelq (“Kegal jelq” at 80-90% erect) per day. While this is less than what I was doing before it seems to be causing more stress than my previous workouts. After 20 minutes my dick is swollen, especially near the glands where I get a large donut, and for the first time I’m feeling soreness.<

These are good signs. Maybe you could look into wrapping for girth, to hold the extended state after the workout. Another thing you could try is two workouts a day, one in the morning one in the evening. If you are getting extra swell and are getting soreness, then stick with your current routine for a few more weeks and re-evaluate.

>If I don’t see gains within a month, I’ll start throwing in squeezes, Horse440s, and bends. I’ll keep slowly upping the intensity until I see gains. <

Yeah, this is a common and effetive routine, doing a horse squeeze or an uli after every 100 jelqs or something.

Good Luck
SS4