Gaining girth using IPR protocol

Hey everybody.

First off, I just want to thank everybody who contributed to the thread “quik4life’s $500 challenge”. In the end, I chose to follow a hanging routine based on IPR, and will be mentored along the way by babbis. Much thanks goes out to him especially. I have had plenty of questions regarding hanging and IPR and he has helped me out every step of the way.

Now to the good stuff.

We all know clamping is becoming (has become) very popular. Everyone seems to be after that ever-coveted 6 inches of girth (or even higher in some cases). With the advent of the Air Clamp, clamping is becoming even more readily accepted, and dare I say, safe.

I was doing a clamping routine about 2 months ago. I saw a lot of temporary gains, but it never materialized into permanent gains. Standard clamping routines have people clamping off 100% erections and doing 3 x 10 min sets to start off. Personally, I quickly moved up in time, but my engorgement never seemed to budge more than 0.25 inches. The, one day, I loosened the clamp. I started to treat my clamp like an adjustable cock ring. To my surprise, the looser the clamp was, the greater my engorgement was. After a month and half, I was doing 4 x 15 min sets. At the end of my last set, I was able to get 0.8 inches of engorgement while in the clamp. I had to stop clamping; I was scared to discoloration and realized that clamping MAY be hindering my length gains (which I also desperately needed).

I was doing a lot of thinking about Xenolith’s IPR protocol and its relation to girth. He did say that IPR could be used for both length and girth, but no one has tried it out on girth yet. I was just wondering if either a) anybody has tried it out, or b) if anyone would be willing to try it out.

This is a sample routine that I came up with:

Day 1 - 10 min warmup - Clamp for 33 minutes
Day 2, 3 - rest
Day 4 - 10 min warmup - Clamp for 36 minutes
Day 5, 6 - rest
Day 7 - 10 min warmup - Clamp for 39 minutes
Day 8, 9 - rest
Day 10 - 10 min warmup - Clamp for 43 minutes
Day 11, 12 - rest
Day 13 - 10 min warmup - Clamp for 48 minutes
Day 14, 15 - rest
Day 16 - 10 min warmup - Clamp for 52 minutes
Day 17, 18 - rest

**NB - After each clamp session, one should wrap at the base for at least 4 hours.

Stay wrapped at base for 4 hours/day - 1 week
Stay wrapped at base for 2.5 hours/day - 1 week
Stay wrapped at base for 1 hours/day - 1 week

**NB - One could do 5-10 dry jelqs to pump up their flaccid a bit before putting on the wrap at the base.

Rest for 6-8 weeks. Then repeat.

To be honest with everyone, I don’t think IPR with work with girth. It just seems that anyone who has tried to gain girth in the past, has had to put in a lot of work and constantly clamp to ensure that the faux girth becomes permanent. Six clamping days seems very short. But hey, it was my logic that “more is better” that has got me to where I am today - at Small Dick Island.

I’m very positive that hanging, especially when applying IPR, will give me the length gains that I’ve always wanted. I’ve just been thinking a lot about girth for some reason. I just want an encouraging girth regiment to look foward to once I’m on Long Dick Island.

One thing to consider: When hanging and using IPR protocol, once one has stopped getting gains at a certain weight, they can just increase the weight after their decon break, and then continute on with their length gains. But with girth and IPR (specifically using clamping) one cannot increase the amount of intensity - it is usually the same throughout. All one can do is increase time.

Anyone’s opinions on IPR and girth would be greatly appreciated.

I encourage anyone who is interested in gaining girth to try out some clamping routines based on IPR protocol; you have nothing to lose and a lot to gain - not only for yourself, but for the entire PE community.

Q4L

First off, the IPR protocol is an idea; it’s not proven to work for everyone. It’s a particularly appealing idea, however, since it is based on the FACT that the body goes through the successive (and overlapping) stages of I, P and R (inflammation, proliferation, and remodeling) in response to any injury, whether PE inflicted or otherwise.

Converting the facts of the body’s physiological responses into a PE training mechanism is a tricky business. I frankly don’t understand how Xeno was able to arrive at all the detailed aspects of his training regimen that he did. All I know is that they seem to have worked for him. Also, I think he’s a smart guy, and I’m willing to give his ideas the benefit of the doubt—at least until there’s reason to doubt them.

As with all things related to the body, your mileage may vary. Xeno did not attempt to explain the underlying reasons that his protocol might work. Quite the opposite. He avoided discussing theory, and focused only on the numbers, or, as he put it, the “systematics.”

Now, assuming your body’s “systematics” behave the same way Xeno’s appear to have, his IPR protocol will probably work about as well for you as it did for him.

That said, a 10% or so progression in work-i.e., time or intensity, at each successive workout is in order, working on a schedule of one day on, two days off, for a period of about 2 weeks.

Use a cock ring (or wrist strap) as a girth-wise ADS for the remainder of each workout day, and possibly for some time the following day. You might also try pumping at very low pressure for very long periods of time. Then use complete rest until the next workout.

After the two weeks of “Macro-I-Phase” work, switch to ADS work only (cock ring) for about a month. Then take 2 months of complete rest before starting all over again.

I believe that Xeno developed his IPR protocol primary for length gains, but surmised that it would also be effective for girth. I believe he used the protocol for girth work and succeeded, so it’s certainly worth a try.

As I’m doing for length work, I suggest you give it a month. If you don’t see any progress after that amount of time, start tweaking and find something that works better for you.

I see that my rambling post above almost begins to start scratching the surface of responding to your post. Amazing what a glass of wine does to me on an empty stomach. :)

Answer: No, I’m not interested in trying this for girth. Girth always came easily to me. No IPR was needed. Can’t say the same for length.

MM: I don’t understand how Xeno was able to arrive at his conclusions as well. What I do know is that, IMO, it is the best PE theory to date. Everybody goes through I, P and R stages. Everyone has to adjust the I, P and R to their own intensities and durations.

I forgot about pumping - it is definitely one girth exercise in which the intensities could be controlled and increased when needed.

I know that a lot of clampers become very addicted to their PE routines. They’re fun, you’re dick gets huge and it puts a smile on your face from ear to ear - what more could you ask for? I guess the hardest part for anyone addicted to PE, albeit hanging, clamping, jelqing, etc., is to take a prolonged rest period.

If anyone does this, I think at least 2 cycles are needed before it could be judged whether IPR is good for length.

Considering Xenolith’s reputation on this board and the fact that every member of TP’s wants as much girth as possible, I guess I’m just surprised that no one has given this try yet.

I really hope someone does give this routine (or any other girth routine based on IPR) a try.

quik4life, as you stated it is length that you want at this moment in time.

Can you list your length routine based on the IPR theory?

Is is 1 day on 2 days off or everyday? For how many weeks before a break is taken etc?

Clamp for 52 minutes? This is with breaks in between, I hope?

I thought your post was well interesting Modest-o Man.

I am going to follow a routine similar to the one posted by kristian69 on the last page of xenolith’s routine/progress thread.

It is a 1 on, 2 off routine - the “I” phase is about 18 days, the “P” phase is about the same and the “R” phase is for 2 months.

Definitely.

One should still adhere to the 10 minute clamping rule.

Hey quick4life, the routine sounds interesting. I might just give it a try.

If I took two months off, I think all of my girth gains would be gone.

That’s awesome to hear, zarka.

Just a quik note to everyone who does try this routine: Be sure to measure your EG before you start the routine, then measure on Day 18, and also after the 3 weeks of wrapping at the base.

I was thinking about that as well.

Regardless of what people say, growing your length is very different from growing your girth. I think rest is a necessity for both, but the amounts of rest definitely varies. Then again, everyone is different. Some people gain girth, take time off and don’t lose anything (or very, very little). Others gain a small amount of girth over a long period, take a short break, and then lose everything.

Girth is funny like that. I do encourage that whoever does try IPR for gaining length (especially by using hanging) to take the extended 2 months off. I haven’t even tried IPR for length yet myself. I am going to be starting my “I” phase in the first week of August.

During my 14 months of researching and trying different avenues in PE, I have come to realize 2 things: 1) Less is more, and 2) IPR is the truth, the light and the way.

If someone doesn’t feel comfortable with taking 2 months off, I don’t blame them. But the most important thing is to see if you actually gain using IPR protocol, i.e., through the routine I first posted. If someone doesn’t want to take the 2 months off, then just take 1 month. Or even 2 weeks - whatever you feel comfortable with.

Here’s another sample routine that I came up with:

quik4life - Clamp times

Day 1 - 10 min warmup - Clamp for 30 minutes
Day 2 - rest
Day 3 - 10 min warmup - Clamp for 33 minutes
Day 4 - rest
Day 5 - 10 min warmup - Clamp for 36 minutes
Day 6 - rest
Day 7 - 10 min warmup - Clamp for 39 minutes
Day 8 - rest
Day 9 - 10 min warmup - Clamp for 43 minutes
Day 10 - rest
Day 11 - 10 min warmup - Clamp for 48 minutes
Day 12 - rest
Day 13 - 10 min warmup - Clamp for 52 minutes
Day 14 - rest

**NB - After each clamp session, one should wrap at the base for at least 4 hours.

Stay wrapped at base for 2.5 hours/day - 1 week
Stay wrapped at base for 1 hours/day - 1 week

**NB - One could do 5-10 dry jelqs to pump up their flaccid a bit before putting on the wrap at the base.

Rest for 2-4 weeks. Then repeat.

Xenolith believes that gains usually max out around Day 12 and that any “I” phase work done after Day 12 is not worth doing (read his progress thread to find out why in detail). Xenolith based his findings on IPR through his hanging routines and the results that he got from them. As far as I know, IPR hasn’t really been tested with regards to girth, but I do believe that IPR protocol could yield some good results in the girth department.

If anyone else comes up with a girth routine based on IPR, I”d love to see it.

And if anyone tries any of the above routines, I”d love to hear about that even more.

I’m just hoping IPR doesn’t stand for Indeterminate PE Results.

Seriously, that’s quite a statement from someone whose never gained from the protocol. I myself believe that IPR has a lot to recommend it, but I think that any expectations beyond “cautiously optimistic” are a recipe for disappointment.

I was going to start a thread asking if anyone was using or considered using an HST type routine applied to PE. HST (Google HST for Dummies) is an 8 week lifting cycle, beginning with a 2 week decon break, followed by 2 weeks of moderate lifting (M, W, F), 15 reps per set, with increasing weights each workout and only hitting fatigue on the last day of the mini-cycle. The next two weeks is similar, only with heavier weights and 10 reps/set. Third cycle is 5 reps, the fourth cycle is 2 reps or negatives.

The point is increasing workloads, then a decon break. I can’t vouch for the system, but am about to start (I’m doing the decon thing right now). Folks have claimed fairly quick gains and although skeptisism is always warranted, it should be noted, no one is selling anything, the full instructions are available on the net for free.