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The road back to where I began - Post PMMA

Originally Posted by 9_in_richard
Things I found out; the doctor who done my removal asked if I ever done manual PE exercises. I was a jelquer. I asked why he was asking and he told me that the tissue in my penis was very fibrous in nature versus smooth. Interesting that this would indicate the theory of micro tears and scar tissue from jelqing is a reality based on his observations and the condition of my jelq enhanced base penis.

My advice after years of PE and several years of PMMA, stay natural. Jelqing gave me over an inch of girth with little change to shape. Resist the temptation to get “quick” gains, slow and steady wins the race! If you do opt for PMMA or filler, be conservative. Get one round and out!

That is not good to have fibrous tissue in penis. You don’t want that at all. The more you have the less EQ you will have. Confirms my beliefs that jelqing is bad for you and girth gains from it are from fibrosis. You do not want any fibrosis in your dick. Men with ED have usually less smooth muscle and more fibrosis. As much smooth muscle as possible and zero fibrosis will give best possible EQ.

Dr Colorado in Mexico will do my removal

I will update after the procedure.


Starting stats NBPEL 6" x EG 4.125" --> Mar 2008 NBPEL 7" x EG 5.25" Current Stats 6" NBPEL x 6" EG (Post 1st Round PMMA)

My noose style extender modification

My jelq routine

Originally Posted by Trapezius
That is not good to have fibrous tissue in penis. You don’t want that at all. The more you have the less EQ you will have. Confirms my beliefs that jelqing is bad for you and girth gains from it are from fibrosis. You do not want any fibrosis in your dick. Men with ED have usually less smooth muscle and more fibrosis. As much smooth muscle as possible and zero fibrosis will give best possible EQ.

Ironically, when I was jelqing, my EQ was the best it has ever been. As of matter of fact, my wife complained that it was so hard that it felt like a dildo.


Starting stats NBPEL 6" x EG 4.125" --> Mar 2008 NBPEL 7" x EG 5.25" Current Stats 6" NBPEL x 6" EG (Post 1st Round PMMA)

My noose style extender modification

My jelq routine

Originally Posted by 9_in_richard
Dr Colorado in Mexico will do my removal
I will update after the procedure.

Have you had a 3rd party or independent evaluation of what you were injected with? Dr. Colorado worked with Dan Salas, and that isn’t exactly a vote of confidence (both PhalloBoards & Thundersplace archive posts will show this for the record).


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Dan is a personal friend of mine before you get too carried away and yes, I know what was used; I simply didn’t know when to say when. When they removed material, again, I told them to leave some.again, my bad. Dan and his team done what I asked. As for my dent initially, that too was caused by me. I masturbated well before they told me that I should and walla, dent was caused.

I am well aware of the dissension between SLE and avanti.. I am well aware of your relationship with Dr Casavantes.. I don’t knock either group. I think both do some quality work and both have had patients ecstatic and both have had patients not so ecstatic, as is the nature of enlargement industry. I actually told the young man in this post that I am confident Dr Casavantes will do a good job for him.

If you read my posts about PMMA, I never mention who does my procedures. I am no shill for either group.

I don’t care a bout TJ politics, only that I do this procedure correctly so I can get back to growing!


Starting stats NBPEL 6" x EG 4.125" --> Mar 2008 NBPEL 7" x EG 5.25" Current Stats 6" NBPEL x 6" EG (Post 1st Round PMMA)

My noose style extender modification

My jelq routine


Last edited by 9_in_richard : 07-25-2021 at .

Why that pmma stuff reduces length?

Originally Posted by Trapezius

Why that pmma stuff reduces length?

Again, that would be my fault. I did not perform any post procedure stretching and or massaging after my last round and the material tended to bunch up causing deformity and a loss off pliability “wouldn’t stretch” anymore like it should.Essentially, the material set up in my normal flaccid length and seems to have restricted my stretch to that length. I think when it is removed, I will be able to re-gain some length.


Starting stats NBPEL 6" x EG 4.125" --> Mar 2008 NBPEL 7" x EG 5.25" Current Stats 6" NBPEL x 6" EG (Post 1st Round PMMA)

My noose style extender modification

My jelq routine

Okay, out of respect for your relationship with Dan, I’ll stay clear of bringing up “medical politics,” but as someone who has PMMA inside of me, and is an advocate for PMMA (as well as HA, Ellanse, and others) as an alternative option for girth enlargement (when performed by an experienced practitioner), I feel obliged to point out that I personally suspect you may have silicone oil in your penis and not PMMA. I’m not trying to alarm you, but knowing this bit of information may end up helping you fix your length loss issues long-term.

As for reasons for my theory: I’ve personally seen a picture of Dan holding a large JAR of his filler… that’s right, a “jar.” No medical-grade PMMA come in jars, you find them packed in properly labeled boxes, in measured doses. Also, I have sources indicating that filler repairs coming from his Clinics have shown the presence of silicone oil. These are lab results indicated on people’s medical files, not speculation. Never mind that his forum has posters indicating 40cc-60cc in single sessions, which makes NO SENSE in the penis (25cc’s is considered relatively high for PMMA in a single round), and aptly applies to fillers like silicone, that rely on volume and not collagen production to create the newly added girth.

Typically length loss with PMMA is short-term, usually observed when the thickening of the skin (especially around the base) inhibits full erection length (usually see reports that are never more than 0.25” in loss, often much less). Plus this doesn’t happen to every person who gets the PMMA injected. Some basic stretching & time usually resolves this issue. That’s why I’m shocked to see how much you lost, irrespective of your girth gains. This is also why your case is so unusual, and lends some additional possibility to the silicone, or a mix of silicone and PMMA, or non-Medical grade PMMA “theory” (?).

Of course, I could be wrong. It is plausible Dan got his hands on PMMA and made an exception since you are his friend, but I express this to you because there may be a way to solve your length loss problem after all. I’m not trying to create any animosity between you, your friend, or your performing physician, but a 2nd opinion would be worthwhile, especially with a Doctor familiar with these issues.

If I could ask one thing: when you had the filler removed, were you awake during the appointment (i.e. local anesthetic vs general)? And if so, did you watch any of it and could you describe what the filler looked like and/or how they extracted it?

I know we haven’t seen eye-to-eye in the past, and my disdain for you-know-who isn’t a mystery, but my personal hunch was meant to help better your situation and the advice is in-fact, sincere. Good luck either way!


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I saw the material prior to injection. Pictures were taken of what was removed per my request. I think this conversation is running off track. I appreciate your concern.


Starting stats NBPEL 6" x EG 4.125" --> Mar 2008 NBPEL 7" x EG 5.25" Current Stats 6" NBPEL x 6" EG (Post 1st Round PMMA)

My noose style extender modification

My jelq routine

Richard, did you research any US docs for removal? Seems like it is a very difficult material to remove. Pmma becomes scar tissue embedded in the dartos. Dartos contains nerves, blood vessels and lymphatics. Has it been a difficult go for you?

Originally Posted by Toothman
Richard, did you research any US docs for removal? Seems like it is a very difficult material to remove. Pmma becomes scar tissue embedded in the dartos. Dartos contains nerves, blood vessels and lymphatics. Has it been a difficult go for you?

Yes, it is very difficult to remove and the procedure itself is 2 - 3 hours. They will not get 100% of the material out and I know that. Last time, there was quite a lot of material removed. Recovery was not too bad at all. US surgeons are very, very expensive for removal.


Starting stats NBPEL 6" x EG 4.125" --> Mar 2008 NBPEL 7" x EG 5.25" Current Stats 6" NBPEL x 6" EG (Post 1st Round PMMA)

My noose style extender modification

My jelq routine

On a different note, I’m enjoying the excitement of starting a new PE routine and buying new PE gear. I just ordered a stealth sleeve and corkscrew. I also ordered some split ring shaft collars, a new vacuum ADS. I love some PE gear mail!


Starting stats NBPEL 6" x EG 4.125" --> Mar 2008 NBPEL 7" x EG 5.25" Current Stats 6" NBPEL x 6" EG (Post 1st Round PMMA)

My noose style extender modification

My jelq routine

Originally Posted by 9_in_richard
On a different note, I’m enjoying the excitement of starting a new PE routine and buying new PE gear. I just ordered a stealth sleeve and corkscrew. I also ordered some split ring shaft collars, a new vacuum ADS. I love some PE gear mail!

I am too back to PE after 3 years and have already invested over 500 $ for new gear. That added to gear before we are talking something like over 1000 $ total. I hope I’ll gain something 😄

Good luck my friend. I will be focused on length for sure. I have never utilized hanging in my routines so I think I will do some hanging, some extender use and manual stretching of various forms.

Unfortunately, I will not be healed from my procedure until mid October, so I’ll be chomping at the bit to get started!


Starting stats NBPEL 6" x EG 4.125" --> Mar 2008 NBPEL 7" x EG 5.25" Current Stats 6" NBPEL x 6" EG (Post 1st Round PMMA)

My noose style extender modification

My jelq routine

You may have said this before….how much pmma did you have placed in total?

I had 18 HA then 10 of bellafill. Mine was placed 10-3 o’clock on top.

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