THis has probably been said a million times before but...

Well, I’ve been doing this stuff in one form or another since October and I really haven’t seen much of an effect. Girth has gone from 5.5 to 5.8 but that is really the only noticeable thing; length I see nothing in. From October to December I stretched pretty regularly, but I saw no gains. Then from January to February I hung, but again, no gains. I’ve now started manually stretching again but it just doesn’t feel like I’m accomplishing anything. When I was hanging, I would read posts by people saying how they could really feel the stretch, but I never experienced that. Anyway, the real purpose of this post is to see if anyone had a case like mine and through some sort of adjustment eventually made some head. Much Thanks

oh, and I stopped heating very early on because I just couldn’t see it being useful, but perhaps I was wrong.

Hey I am exactly in the same situation as you. Been doing various pe methods on and off since last summer. No real gains that I have measured. I would like to hear the same thing as you.

Do heat, if you have the possibility (practical, privacy).

Follow the newbie routine.

If you don’t feel the stretch, or a certain soreness afterwards, up the force.

Be consistent, keep it up and if you stop allow yourself to decondition (a whole theory about that) before you start afresh.

You might want to read memento’ “dainty PE” thread for inspiration.

You go you have been hanging from January to February. Try a bit longer and then you might see something. You have to be persistent. You go you stretched ‘pretty regularly’.. Tell us exactly how many days you stretched, the time you put in each day, and your PE routine. You can’t feel the pressure or stretch ? Then stretch a bit harder and harder. Warmup makes it easier to stretch so try warming up before a workout.

PE is all about consistency, so be consistent. Slacking around won’t get you a bigger dick.

Also, some believe in immediately after hanging wrapping the penis into a stretched state (or wearing an ADS) plus not hanging everyday so that the micro lengthened healing can occur. In case you haven’t tried that.

Consistency is key. More important than force or time.

If you don’t PE for long enough each day or with enough force, you won’t make gains, but equally if you don’t PE consistently you won’t make gains either.

But consistency is more important then either force or time.

It’s better not to make gains because you PE at too low a weight and for too short a time consistently than to not make gains because you PE with adequate force for long periods sporadically— basically because either way you’re not going to make gains, but with the consistent approach you at least establish a habit that can be improved upon in order to make long-terms gains possible.

I record my gains on a graph. The graph seems to be showing me that I personally need to hang consistently every day, multiple sets for about a month and a half before I even reach the growth phase of my cycle. I returned from a decon break about a month and a half ago, so I’ll know by the end of next month if that still holds true for me. I’ll keep the forum informed of my findings.

A word on heat— I’ve gained plenty without heat, and I know others have also. I used heat for a time, but to be honest, when you hang as many sets as I do, it’s just way too much hassle. If you only hang a few sets it might be a good idea, but for me, hanging as many sets as I do, heating with a rice sock or similar is just too much hassle.

Having said that, it might be worth investing in an infrared lamp, since if you set it up well, all you have to do is flick it on and off when necessary.

I doubt you ever have enough time to cool down with your set amount. In your case heat is bloody useless.

This is helpful, thanks. As for my details, I probably stretch an hour or two a day if I can. When I was hanging, I was doing the same time too, only without manually stretching. I also jelqed on and off too just because it was so time consuming and messy. I have a question about hanging though. I built a captains wench and it’s a pretty nifty contraption. However, when I use it, I usually feel and very unfomfortable pinch a the glans. Any thoughts?

Apart from purely as a warm up I think it does make a difference to the process. It seems to soften things up a lot. When I’ve used an infrared lamp in the past, I’ve often had to dive for the off-switch after about ten minutes just to get the feeling of stress/fatigue back within reasonable limits, so there’s definitely something happening under the infrared. The tissues seem to become less tolerant of the forces. The only reason I didn’t continue using the lamp was basically because I broke it. I should have bought a new one before now, but I’ve just not had the cash.

I use a BibHanger, so I can’t really help you with the wench.

Not everyone gets results easily. Some quit before they figure out how to get results…some are lucky and see results immediately. Some may take a long, long time to see results, not because it takes a long time, but because it took a long time to figure out how to make it work for THEM!

I’ve actually been considering getting a bibhanger (if he’s still selling them). How’s it been working out for you. ANd furthermore, do you mix up your hanging angles?

The BibHanger is basically more or less my sole means of PE (although I have made extensive use of an ADS in the past and still do use one from time to time).

Of all the devices I’ve owned the BibHanger has probably been the best, but the Penimaster was good too, as was the AutoExtender, but if I were only allowed one device, so far it’d be the BibHanger (however I’ve not yet tried any of the vacuum hangers).

I’ve heard a lot of good things about vacuum hangers however, and have been considering purchasing one. It’s probably only really due to lack of cash that I’ve not already switched to a vacuum hanger (but having said that, as I’ve not yet tried it I can’t really recommend it myself, but I’ve heard a lot of people say good things about them).

I don’t hang angles. Most of my hanging has all been straight down, although when I first started I did hang BTC and I have hung straight out for a few days at a time on occasion. I don’t really understand the benefits of hanging angles. I’ve always been able to make consistent gains hanging straight down. If my penis ever got so conditioned that I wasn’t physically able to hang enough weight to continue gaining, then I would probably either take an extended decon-break or consider hanging angles, since it would require less weight to fatigue the parts that the angles hit (in that respect I’ve always considered hanging angles a divide and conquer approach, for people with penises that are no longer able to support the weight they require to make further gains) . If someone on the forum could explain to me whatever additional benefits to hanging at the various angles there might be, I probably would consider adapting my routine to include angles.