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Average Gains and Starting Measurements

Amazing! That’s a great analysis.


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20 BP x 14 EG - Meta: 23 x 16 cm

Glande: 4.8 cm L x 4 cm A - Meta: 5.5 cm L x 5 cm A

Hm, graphs are nifty. Although I wonder if seeing the “average” gains might be discouraging to someone looking to start his PE journey like myself who has.. Admittedly some lofty goals.

This was a super thread. I am loving the data.


Start 6 1/2 L - 4 3/4 G

Now 7 13/16 L - 5 1/8

Goal 8.0 L - 6.0 G

Originally Posted by Thickambitions

I would have loved to have seen this when I started. I was inconsistent for years because I was skeptical. When I finally committed I started to see gains and have been hooked since. Just under an inch and a half in both length and girth gained over the years.

Thank you. I love these kind of posts. It gives a positive outlook to stay consistent and have a good mindset.

Since the average gain is around .6 inches why continue after that besides just quality of erection. Seems like this gain is observed very early on. After years of PE, I see little to no gains. Just my observation

We have 3 fields.

-How much person is ready to do PE (time/efforts and so on).

-How much gains person wanna see (sometimes it’s just enough).

-Individual biological differences.

When you overlap all three, you will see most of cases about some fast gains without much efforts. There are few people who are ready to spend 5 years in dedicated pursuit of 2 inches result.


Starting : 7.6 BPEL, 5.5 MEG

Current: 8.1 BPEL, 5.7 MEG

Goal: To understand what makes penis to grow.

Originally Posted by qweqweqad1
We have 3 fields.
-How much person is ready to do PE (time/efforts and so on).
-How much gains person wanna see (sometimes it’s just enough).
-Individual biological differences.
When you overlap all three, you will see most of cases about some fast gains without much efforts. There are few people who are ready to spend 5 years in dedicated pursuit of 2 inches result.

That’s true.

I have gained 1.5 inch in length in two years. I was very consistent, but now i can spend less time in PE due to life circumstances. I keep growing even with less effort and thats what i care about the most. I am not in a hurry because i am pretty big at this point compared to my starting size.

I see PE as a lifetime commitment and i am after really big gains with no specific timeframe.

The database link?

Wow! Great thread and very interesting data :)

I started doing PE consistently this January, when I got myself an extender. Before that I had done some jelqing on and off, but with no results to speak of, so suffice to say, I was more than a bit skeptical about the whole thing working at all

When I started I measured at 16cm BPEL and 11cm girth in the mid and maybe just about 12 at the base. I decided early on when I was about to quit for not seeing results, that I would only measure once every 2 months so as to avoid getting despair, for the slowness of the progress, so yesterday when I once again took the tape and measure out I was more than positively surprised to find out I was 17.7cm in lenght and 13 in mid girth and 14 at the base. In hindsight the progress that seemed non-existant and slow, now seems so fast, for such nice results! :)

The thing that has most surprised me in all of this, is my gains in girth. I never imagined I could have such a nice chubby thing, since it was always like a pencil in comparison to its length :D

I notice people who haven’t been seeing significant gains are the ones who also haven’t been doing it for long and consistent.

Originally Posted by Gentlepsychopath
That’s true.

I have gained 1.5 inch in length in two years. I was very consistent, but now I can spend less time in PE due to life circumstances. I keep growing even with less effort and that’s what I care about the most. I am not in a hurry because I am pretty big at this point compared to my starting size.

I see PE as a lifetime commitment and I am after really big gains with no specific time frame.

I agree. When you have the mindset of literally.. “YOU’VE GOT NOTHING TO LOSE BUT TO GAIN” then it happens..
If you set a time where you dedicate to P.E. As an everyday routine. Gains will happen. My entire life I’ve always looked at my schlong thinking.. Damn I just want to be an inch bigger! Just an inch.. I don’t want to have a 8-9 monster.. Just an 1 inch bigger.

April 2019: I was 5.8” (BPEL) -/+ 1 mm
~5 months later..

August (now): 6.8” (BPEL) -/+ 1 mm

*Measured with precision with a clear transparent ruler bone pressed.. So the ruler doesn’t lie

All because I sat there letting 2.50 lbs pull down on my Johnson 1h30mins a day (almost everyday)

I started hanging with 3.75 lbs just 2-3 weeks ago.. So still continuing my P.E. Now I have a realistic chance of getting to the “magic 8” which I never conceived possible until I came across this site only 6 months ago


Last edited by GokusPecs : 08-13-2019 at .

I havent measured or paid attention to girth but I believe I have seen some slight girth gains from hanging as well. I guess as length increases, girth slightly increases as well

Originally Posted by juiice
<img class=”tpreview” width=”400” height=”300” alt=”Girth Gain Distribution” src=”/cups/180935/girth-gain-distribution.png”>

I have decided to run through the data gathered here at Thunder’s Place to see just what can be expected from our hard earned science experiments here. Many members ask for estimates of what they can expect to gain. My goal was to crunch the data and see just what these numbers may be. Additionally, I went through the numbers to find the average starting statistics here at Thunder’s Place, just to see how they stacked up against the studies done around the world.

First let’s begin with the assumptions I made in order to cut down the false statistics found here on the website.

ASSUMPTIONS MADE:

  • Length Statistics over 11 inches were discarded as this size is an extreme outlier
  • Girth Statistics over 8.5 inches were discarded for the same reason
  • Length Statistics under 2 inches were discarded
  • Girth Statistics under 2 inches were discarded
  • Length Gains of over 4 inches were discarded as there has not been anyone here who has documented such an extraordinary gain
  • Girth Gains of over 3 inches were discarded for the same reason
  • Length Decreases over 1 inch were discarded due to the likelihood that these are false statistics
  • Girth Decreases over 1 inch were discarded for the same reason
  • Members who created a single entry were discarded when calculating gains and rates of gains, but were included in the starting statistics

I can assure each of you that those statistics that fall above and below the assumptions made above are a very small portion of the overall sample size, and can be assumed to have a negligible effect on the resulting statistics after their removal.

Statistics were calculated for two groups. A group of only gainers, and a group that contained everyone within the reasonable range of statistics. In addition to these two groups, statistics for inches and centimeters are provided.

Resulting Statistics can be found below:

<div class=”tborder spacer alt2” style=”max-width:30em; padding: 1em;”>STARTING STATS:
Average Starting Length: 6.3582 in - 16.1499 cm
Standard Deviation: 0.8203 in - 2.0836 cm
Average Starting Girth: 5.0179 in - 12.7455 cm
Standard Deviation: 0.5427 in - 1.3786 cm</div>

<img alt=”Starting Statistics in Inches” src=”/cups/180935/starting-statistics-inches.png”>

<img alt=”Starting Statistics in Centimetres” src=”/cups/180935/starting-statistics-centimetres.png”>

The first thing that stands out to me when examining the data, is the clear tendency towards rounding to the nearest quarter/half/whole inch that comes with self-reported statistics. The tendency to round can mess with the accuracy of statistics, but it is assumed here that the rounding is reasonable and not excessive. The same quarter/half/whole inch grid can be seen on the centimeter graph as well. The scatter plots also indicate that the vast majority of users fall between 5 and 7 inches starting length (approx. 13.5 to 18.5 centimeters) and between 4.5 and 5.5 inches of girth (approx. 11.5 to 14 cm). The is confirmed by the averages listed above. Additionally, below the distribution of starting statistics can be seen in an easier to read format. The X axes of each graph are in the units listed in the graph title, while the Y axes are number of users falling into each category.

<img alt=”Starting Statistic Distribution” src=”/cups/180935/StartStatsDist.png”>

<div class=”tborder spacer alt2” style=”max-width:30em; padding: 1em;”>GAINS STATS:
Average Overall Length Gain: 0.6384 in - 1.6216 cm
Standard Deviation: 0.5367 in - 1.3632 cm
Average Overall Girth Gain: 0.2854 in - 0.7248 cm
Standard Deviation: 0.3509 in - 0.8914 cm

Average Length Gain of Gainers: 0.7350 in - 1.8670 cm
Standard Deviation: 0.5234 in - 1.3296 cm
Average Girth Gain of Gainers: 0.4057 in - 1.0305 cm
Standard Deviation: 0.3333 in - 0.8465 cm</div>

<img alt=”Gain Statistics in Inches” src=”/cups/180935/gains-statistics-inches.png”>

<img alt=”Gain Statistics in Centimetres” src=”/cups/180935/gains-statistics-centimetres.png”>

The above two graphs show the distribution of length and girth gains for all members who fell within the reasonable statistics range. As is quite apparent, the majority of gains occurred between 0 and 1 inch of BP Length (approx. 0 and 2.5 cm) and between 0 and 0.5 inches of Mid Shaft Girth (approx. 0 and 1 cm). We can again see the tendency to round gains towards the nearest quarter/half/whole inch amongst users, as again the gains statistics line up nicely along the grid lines. We can see the distribution of the gains statistics appears in the shape of a comet, with the majority of data point appearing close to the origin at 0 gains in either dimension, and the data points becoming more sparse as they move away from the origin, especially in the positive direction of both axes.
Something to notice about those who lost size in a penis dimension: these users are in the minority of the statistics by a wide margin. Additionally, no member reported losing both length and girth, and those that lost in one dimension commonly gained in the other dimension. Below the distribution of gains can be seen. These distributions show the distribution of those who gained, and does not include the small portion of users who reported negative gains.

Gain Distribution

<div class=”tborder spacer alt2” style=”max-width:30em; padding: 1em;”>GAIN PERCENTAGES:
Percentage of Users who Gained Length: 89.60%
Percentage of Users who Gained Girth: 77.12%</div>

Now what do all of these numbers mean? The standard deviation of each average presented above show how likely an individual is to deviate from the statistical average. The way the standard deviation works is as such: 68% of users were within 1 standard deviation of the indicated measurement, 95% of them were within 2 standard deviations, and 99.7% of them were within 3 standard deviations of the average.
We can also see that when including decreases in size between first and last measurements, the standard deviation for gains is greater than the average gain. This means that Thunder’s Place gain statistics are highly erratic, ie. They vary greatly. However, when considering only those who experienced gains, the standard deviations, as expected, fall below the value of the average gain. Despite this, they still remain a significant percentage of the average gain, indicating a flatter bell curve distribution of gains. This means that while a good portion of users can expect gains near that average number, the gains of each user will obviously vary widely from individual to individual.

What about the effect your starting size has on your ability to gain? Below are four graphs that show the distribution between a starting dimension of each member, and the gains experienced by that member in the corresponding dimension. This was done in both inches and centimeters, as usual.

<img alt=”Length Gain against Initial Length in Inches” src=”/cups/180935/LengthGainvsStartLengthIn.png”>
<img alt=”Girth Gain against Initial Girth in Inches” src=”/cups/180935/GirthGainvsStartGirthIn.png”>
<img alt=”Length Gain against Initial Length in Centimetres” src=”/cups/180935/LengthGainvsStartLengthCm.png”>
<img alt=”Girth Gain against Initial Girth in Centimetres” src=”/cups/180935/GirthGainvsStartGirthCm.png”>

The above four graphs reveal some interesting trends of growth here at Thunder’s Place. Commonly it is thought that a smaller starting size allows for greater gains, and this can be seen easily on the length graphs. These graphs exhibit a clearly triangular shape, indicating that greater gains were experienced by those who started on the lower end of sizes. As one moves rightward across the x-axis of starting size, it can be seen that the BPEL length gains drop off. However, a different trend is seen in the girth department. The decreasing triangle clearly seen in the length graphs is much less visible in the girth graphs. In fact, these girth graphs exhibit a much flatter shape overall. For the most part it appears that no matter the starting size, a 0.5 inch gain in girth (approx. 1.3 centimeters) is reasonable for members. There is a small trend towards smaller starting girths experiencing greater girth gains, but it is much less apparent than in the length gain graphs.

A positive result of the study reveals that a very high proportion of the users here at Thunder’s Place report positive gains. I think we may be onto something here at Thunder’s :shrug:

Summaries of the averages of starting stats, gain stats, and percentage of users who gained can all be found below in easier to read tables as attachments.

Hopefully you all find this helpful!

-Statistics Compiled on the 25th of February, 2016-

Can we do this study again for 2020 stats or has membership remained the same?

DR


Start: BPEL: 7” MSEG: 5" | Current: BPEL: 8.25” MSEG: 5.75" | Goal: BPEL: 8.5” MSEG: 6"

1st Goal: 7.5" x 5.5" | Achieved: 01/15/2021 | 2nd Goal: 8.25 x 5.75 | Achieved: 05/19/2021

Progress Pics: Road to 8x6 | My Log: Daros PE Notes and Progress Reports | Routine: Decon Routine

Originally Posted by damianromante
Can we do this study again for 2020 stats or has membership remained the same?

DR


Please post your results when you finish; I’m sure the results will be interesting.


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7.5” BPEL; 7” NBPEL; 8.25” BPFSL; 6.25” - 6.5” MEG w/ c-ring.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

Glad to see the 0.5” gains in both length and girth I’ve made over 10+ years of PE are both reasonable and average. I never really saw newbie gains, probably because I had excellent EQ and measured correctly from the start. I’m a hard gainer for sure. I’m now in my late 50s, PE’ing again and enjoying it. If I gain more, great. If not, I’m happy with what I’ve earned.


Started: BPEL 6.5", EG 4.5"

Current: BPEL 7.0", EG 5.0"

Goal: BPEL 7.5", EG 5.5"

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