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Women’s Size Preference: Compilation Of Articles

My thoughts, a man who has had a lot of sex with women and also seen a lot of penises in real life…

(1) most people (whether man or woman) are completely fine and happy to have sex with an average or even below average penis

(2) most people (whether man or woman) find large penises erotic, aesthetically pleasing, etc

(3) the average penis size is actually larger than what studies say… If and only if for the simple reason that guys with massive penises aren’t all that rare and any one who has had sex with more than a few guys is likely to have come across one

(4) if a woman has orgasmed before, she can probably orgasm on a penis of nearly any size, given the right connection and arousal

(5) if a woman has never orgasmed before, she might be able to orgasm for the first time if she tries a bigger penis

Originally Posted by BiggerPenis73
My thoughts, a man who has had a lot of sex with women and also seen a lot of penises in real life…

(1) most people (whether man or woman) are completely fine and happy to have sex with an average or even below average penis

(2) most people (whether man or woman) find large penises erotic, aesthetically pleasing, etc

(3) the average penis size is actually larger than what studies say… If and only if for the simple reason that guys with massive penises aren’t all that rare and any one who has had sex with more than a few guys is likely to have come across one

(4) if a woman has orgasmed before, she can probably orgasm on a penis of nearly any size, given the right connection and arousal

(5) if a woman has never orgasmed before, she might be able to orgasm for the first time if she tries a bigger penis

3) This is a myth that is not verifiable or falsifiable. I could also claim in spain the average is 20 cm NBPEL and all the studies underreport, but this takes us further from the truth than closer to it. If the line of thought is “although the best studies show x and I cannot find any methodical error in them, in reality the length is x+3cm from my experience”, I am afraid we arrive at a dead end. How come I get complimented for being “big” if I was only average in reality?
I have no experience with men, so my knowledge only applies to women. But complete average is clearly not ideal.
With my current size, I never had any problems of being too big for vaginal or oral intercourse and I received some compliments about my size.
This also shows me empirically that above average is more optimal. At least my current size is better than my starting size, this i can clearly say.


[before PE] Start BPFSL: 17.6cm (6.93 inches) start BPEL: 16.7cm (6.57 inches)

[on decon till 05.12.21] latest BFPSL: 20.5cm (8,07 inches) latest BPEL: 18.8cm (7,4 inches)

Click here to see my amazing US progress report (always updated!Kyrpa's methodology) ;-)

Originally Posted by CBateman
Prause is good.
Also good, a study on male body attractiveness and the flaccid penis:

https://www.pnas.org/content/110/17/6925

Surprise: bigger is better.
” A preference for a larger-than-average penis is qualitatively consistent with some previous studies (30⇓–32), but our results differ in showing that the most attractive size appears to lie more than 2 SDs from the mean (I.e., no evidence for stabilizing sexual selection, in contrast to refs. 30⇓–32).”

You want to be >13cm flaccid to be golden. This makes total sense IMO.

I find this one even more interesting:

“There was also a weak, albeit significant (P = 0.021), positive relationship between a female’s relative weight (comparable to body mass index) and the effect that penis size had on her assessment of male attractiveness. This relationship was far stronger if we included two outliers (>4 SD from mean; r = 0.333, P = 0.001, n = 105).”

I’m translating this to : “Large women are on the prowl for huge penises”

Which is not a surprising result to me. Overweight is related to less self control, ie. The search for instant gratification without regard to long time consequences (shaming).
I would find it very interesting to see the same research done with women who was moderately drunk (my guess is you would see same result as overweight, ie. Stronger correlation to penis size).

Guess I need to work more on my penis and shoulder size :-) even though most women still tell me it means nothing :-) :-)

/BW

Originally Posted by CBateman

This also shows me empirically that above average is more optimal. At least my current size is better than my starting size, this i can clearly say.

I don’t know what real average is but I can say too that my current length ~18cm bpel is better for me and my partner than my natural length of 15-16cm bpel. Though it’s such marginal gain it made possible for first time give my long term partner consistently deep vaginal orgasms in different positions. That required 10/10 EQ or it did not work. Worked with next woman too. With current partner it does not work. Interresting to see if I can gain few cm more and some girth if she also can have vaginal orgasms with same technique.

Now, let’s get this straight - don’t confuse erect length with EQ. A 15-16 cm 100% EQ penis (like mine, for example) is capable of creating wonders with your average Jane. A 20 cm BPEL at 50% isn’t as arousal as rock hard piece of meat.
However, girls tend to fall into the porn marketing trap, demanding a “slightly bigger” prowler than they had before. The reason - accommodation. The vaginal walls are very flexible - just imagine the 10-11 cm of span when a baby comes out naturally. But, in the meantime, muscles are easily contractible to a smaller diameter afterwards, so the length question remains solely an arousal variable. The girth, and thank God my wife is like a vice down there, seems to be the key to a healty, orgasmic relationship.

Yes, some girls, like stated above, love cervical bashing from time to time, but the cervical opening is extremely painful if pounded hard enough, so only a few chosen ones go the extra mile of cervical stimulation.

Originally Posted by Trapezius
I don’t know what real average is but I can say too that my current length ~18cm bpel is better for me and my partner than my natural length of 15-16cm bpel. Though it’s such marginal gain it made possible for first time give my long term partner consistently deep vaginal orgasms in different positions. That required 10/10 EQ or it did not work. Worked with next woman too. With current partner it does not work. Interresting to see if I can gain few cm more and some girth if she also can have vaginal orgasms with same technique.

I am very happy for your positive experiences and gains. But please do not call 2-3 cm gains “marginal”. These are absolutely laudable and even HUGE gains!
Most people will never gain an inch. I in fact haven’t gained my first full inch yet. Although I work very hard to achieve and surpass it.
I dont know what your expectations are, but a difference between a 15cm BPEL and 18cm BPEL penis is absolutely huge, especially if the girth also increases.
Then again, if you go from 18 to 21cm BPEL you reach another dimension.
Please understand according to calcsd western average:
15cm BPEL: top 40%
18cm: top 3,3%
21cm: top 0,03% or one in 3333.

Even if we are tremendously pessimistic and assume everything is only half as rare, 18cm is top 6,6% and 21cm top 0,06%.
So you got 10x rarer every 3cm length as a proxy.


[before PE] Start BPFSL: 17.6cm (6.93 inches) start BPEL: 16.7cm (6.57 inches)

[on decon till 05.12.21] latest BFPSL: 20.5cm (8,07 inches) latest BPEL: 18.8cm (7,4 inches)

Click here to see my amazing US progress report (always updated!Kyrpa's methodology) ;-)

Originally Posted by CBateman

Please understand according to calcsd western average:
15cm BPEL: top 40%
18cm: top 3,3%
21cm: top 0,03% or one in 3333.

Even if we are tremendously pessimistic and assume everything is only half as rare, 18cm is top 6,6% and 21cm top 0,06%.
So you got 10x rarer every 3cm length as a proxy.

Well done.


BPEL: 5.5" --> 7.4" ; BPFSL: ~5.6" --> 8.0"

314 hours of tension since 4 Jan 21 for a total of 49,982 PPM. 5.5Squared - Cycle #4 Log

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Originally Posted by flowsky
Now, let’s get this straight - don’t confuse erect length with EQ. A 15-16 cm 100% EQ penis (like mine, for example) is capable of creating wonders with your average Jane. A 20 cm BPEL at 50% isn’t as arousal as rock hard piece of meat.
However, girls tend to fall into the porn marketing trap, demanding a “slightly bigger” prowler than they had before. The reason - accommodation. The vaginal walls are very flexible - just imagine the 10-11 cm of span when a baby comes out naturally. But, in the meantime, muscles are easily contractible to a smaller diameter afterwards, so the length question remains solely an arousal variable. The girth, and thank God my wife is like a vice down there, seems to be the key to a healty, orgasmic relationship.

Yes, some girls, like stated above, love cervical bashing from time to time, but the cervical opening is extremely painful if pounded hard enough, so only a few chosen ones go the extra mile of cervical stimulation.

Good EQ is absolutely critical and the most important thing considering penis.

I was with my ex wife 13 years and only last 2 years she had deep vaginal orgasms with me. I grew 2-3cm length (probably closer 2) and 1cm meg. But at the same time my EQ improved. I think it was combination of two that improved sex.

Those few women I have been have with have been in pain and have not liked when dick hits straight to cervical opening. It is bad technique and wrong angle that must be avoided. It has to go over or under. Posterior cervix has been place those two women orgasmed.

Originally Posted by CBateman
I am very happy for your positive experiences and gains. But please do not call 2-3 cm gains “marginal”. These are absolutely laudable and even HUGE gains!
Most people will never gain an inch. I in fact haven’t gained my first full inch yet. Although I work very hard to achieve and surpass it.
I dont know what your expectations are, but a difference between a 15cm BPEL and 18cm BPEL penis is absolutely huge, especially if the girth also increases.
Then again, if you go from 18 to 21cm BPEL you reach another dimension.
Please understand according to calcsd western average:
15cm BPEL: top 40%
18cm: top 3,3%
21cm: top 0,03% or one in 3333.

Even if we are tremendously pessimistic and assume everything is only half as rare, 18cm is top 6,6% and 21cm top 0,06%.
So you got 10x rarer every 3cm length as a proxy.

Actually it’s probably closer to 2cm. From 13,x cm to 16cm non bone pressed / 15,x to 18cm bone pressed. It was huge effort to get there with hanging heavy, manuals and ads. After gains stopped I worked out almost a year without any more gains and that made me little bit frustrated as I really wanted to see 20cm bpel. Now after 3 year brake I have another go with different methods to try to gain more. And US heat is the thing I place high hopes.

Originally Posted by BiggerPenis73

(3) the average penis size is actually larger than what studies say… If and only if for the simple reason that guys with massive penises aren’t all that rare and any one who has had sex with more than a few guys is likely to have come across one

What is definition of massive penis? 20cm /8” bone pressed length? 15cm/6” girth?

Range in studies says there is always few guys who are that size and of course more guys just under that. Sexually active person with many partners has a quite good change that have come across quite much bigger than average.

Originally Posted by Determined2Gain
The notion of women size-preference is an autonomous self-projected size ideal in the mind of most PE-traversing men. In other words, only you dream of the size “she never had,” not her.

Well said.


Once upon a time (2015): 6.40” x 4.50”

Today: 7.25” x 5.00”, Thunder Cocks Unite!

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Originally Posted by Determined2Gain
The notion of women size-preference is an autonomous self-projected size ideal in the mind of most PE-traversing men. In other words, only you dream of the size “she never had,” not her.

Also, most of the articles are really written by men. Believe me. I have written such articles as a copywriter. The editor /female in most cases/ throws out random penis length numbers. You have to find a miraculous way of filling in the blanks with magic words like “survey”, “report”, and “experiment” being embedded in the clipboard.
However, getting myself to know and bang girls, I started sensing that those numbers are just plain old marketing tricks, as my manhood isn’t as big as I dream of - around 15 cm. NBPEL. However, my current girl managed to whisper one time to me: Size, from a woman’s perspective, isn’t something you have to achieve in order to advance forward. Rather it is a nice complementary asset to good manners, care, arousal build-up, and foreplay.
Yes, she always orgasms even before I reach out for my warrior within my pants.

As I said before - a 100% EQ, some long-term mind games and the missus is more than happy to puncture the neighbors’ eardrums.

There is ideal penis size.
Ideal is defined as being most attractive for the biggest amount of women.
It is exactly the same as with height preference.
There are studies done about this.
170cm is not ideal. 180 is better and 190 is ideal. 200cm is not ideal again.
Again, you can read the science, same with the flaccid length I posted.

It is not like there is no difference between 7cm flaccid or 14cm or that it isn’t measurable.
How important it is is another subject. It may not be that important.
To deny that there are ranges of for example “average”, “good” , “amazing” is ignorant.


[before PE] Start BPFSL: 17.6cm (6.93 inches) start BPEL: 16.7cm (6.57 inches)

[on decon till 05.12.21] latest BFPSL: 20.5cm (8,07 inches) latest BPEL: 18.8cm (7,4 inches)

Click here to see my amazing US progress report (always updated!Kyrpa's methodology) ;-)

A Matter Of Perspective

As I observed in one of my earliest posts, I was heartened to see I was not “small” from a start. But, like many men, a goal is to get larger, for a multitude of reasons, but primarily to better satisfy a partner, or so we think. Like many here observe, these mind games can be harmful, but here we are!

That said, one reality we need to bear in mind is that our downward looking viewpoint creates a foreshortening perspective. In other words, we are typically larger, or at least longer, than we may look to ourselves. I have been in a number of group settings and almost without fail consider the other men to be larger. Some without doubt were, but not always, even when seemingly larger. That’s due to the perspective. What I know for certain is that thoughts of comparing oneself go out the window when you are taking a woman from behind as she is sucking another man…or vice versa…

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