Work Hard, Gain Hard

Sometimes I get fed up with reading posts from guys who haven’t gained and who clearly never will going about it the way they are, especially when they compare themselves to the people who do work hard to limited effect. Eventually I hit rant point. This thread (should you choose to accept it) is one of the results.

PE is not easy

It’s a simple fact that if you do not commit yourself totally, you will not gain. If you could masturbate a bit harder than usual a few times a week (and convince yourself that it’s jelqing) and gain every teenage boy and most adult men would gain 1/2” a month and the world would be full of women complaining about the need for men with shorter dicks (probably with placards and songs in the charts like “need a short dicked man”).

If you think that you can PE effectively (manually) while you catch up on some TV or read posts here or do anything else that takes your concentration away from your PEing, don’t waste your time and don’t waste our time by posting that you haven’t gained.

Even if you manage to give full concentration to a session, maximising the work done in the time, if you only get around to it once or twice a week when you remember, when your partner is out or when your parents are in bed, there is no point in losing even that time: you will not gain.

Jelqing is not masturbation

Jelqing is not frantic masturbation. After a session your dick should feel worked, feel like it cannot handle any more. This doesn’t mean you should rush in as a newbie (see below). Jelqing is about stretching the tunica repeatedly, each stroke should have purpose to it, any stroke that does not is a stroke that’s not worth doing. If you spend 20 minutes and only 1 in every 5 strokes actually does anything, you are not making effective use of your time.

There is a risk when you PE properly

When you are doing everything right you are working at a level just below that which might cause bad injury. PE is controlled injury: you are trying to injure your penis in a small, limited, precise manner. When you get this right you are skirting the grounds of more major injury (which you do not want). When you skirt this area you will fall in occasionally, no matter how careful you are. One bad session and you are there and you will have one bad session.

Start gradually and ramp up

When you start PE you need to be using the minimum force you can get away with and still gain (see below). You need to leave yourself a path to ramp up the force over time to continue gaining and you cannot go into any routine full force if your penis is not prepared for it (that is a route to unnecessary injury).

If it isn\’t working change it

If you get no hint of results in 2 weeks, if you get no solid (even minor) results in around a month your routine is not working. You need to change your routine if it is not working. Measure all the time, measure after sessions to see if you are as extended as in the previous session, measure every week or two after a two day break to see if you are actually gaining, always measures bone pressed for consistency.

Work smart

Make every second of your routine count. We all have limited time. The time spent on a routine should be that. Switch off your phone, sedate the kids, whatever you need to do to ensure that your time is uninterrupted and that you can concentrate to the fullest. To be a little mindlessly repetative: make every stroke count, make every stretch count, make every second of your routine count. Do not skip the warm wrap, that counts.

Thanks, great post.

This is a nice post. I am in the process of changing it up. I have been stalled for eight months and tried various routines. I have been VERY dedicated with my routines and time, but still have not seen any gains. So, I just started hanging and I am hoping that starts up the gains again.

Alternatively you could fall ass backwards into gains. And you could then win the lottery and get into a three way with Jessica Abel and Jessica Biel (Only one name to remember… it’d be great!). Also the fact that you have a beer belly might actually make you the greatest athlete in the world. But I doubt it.

I don’t doubt the first post of this thread though.

I completely agree. I basically have that same mindset when it comes to PE.

I agree to. It takes a while to get a handle on things. I seriously doubt the so-called “newbie gains” many post on here. Given my own success, and failure over 15 months. It’s kinda like studying in school, or to further yourself. Sometimes you love it, sometimes you hate it. But if your always looking for excuses to take a break, or you never up the ante, you will likely never realize the gains you desire. Like memento said, there is just plain no point to PEing unless you do it in a purposeful manner.

Stop whining and get to work!

The harsh realty of PE…… it isn’t easy, and there are so many factors that can fuck up your gains. You also need to live a healthy lifestyle if you want to gain. As a matter of fact, if you begin gaining, all other aspects of your life should have improvement as well. PE has made me a better person because I avoid everything that I think can fuck up my work, which in turn has made me a happy and healthy man.

Everything that Memento posted is the truth regarding PE work outs, but don’t forget to be positive, eat right, work out, and respect others around you; especially your mother. You need all the good karma you can get when you want to make your dick grow after puberty.

I enjoyed the post Memento.

Very nice.

I think this topic should also be in the newbie forum.

Excellent thread!

I believe that the “every day and every jelq counts” mentality is very important.

In the end you are responsible for your own results(in every endeavor in life), so if you cheat on your routines it is a waste of time and you are cheating yourself as well.

Question Memento:

Do you perform a “stretch” at the end of each jelq? Meaning a subtle tug of course. Doing this now and it feels right. Every jelq counts.

Good post Mem, reading posts of guys who haven’t gained anything at all after months of PE I was actually thinking the same thing.

You’re my hero, Mem! :)

All true. Just like everything in real life - What you get is what you put it.

I really hope not. Seriously, Khaled Mashaal would make a better hero.

>Just like everything in real life - What you get is what you put it.<

Thanks. You just summarised my twaddle above in one line. That’s Thunder’s job.

I’m slipping though, so all help appreciated.

Hahaha, you said it Mr. T: “Treat your mother right”!. Classic song