Hanging SO at 30lbs, no gains yet

I’ve been hanging SO at 30 lbs maximum, 3 X 20 minutes, 5 times a week for a few weeks now. Took me many months to build up to this weight. After fatigue, I lower the weight to the next comfortable amount. I still don’t see any gains yet, and I’m wondering how high in weight it may be necessary to go.

I’m staring SU hanging also (currently at around 10lbs per 20 minute session.) Also, I don’t really have any lasting fatigue after sessions, only sometimes during a session.

My LOT is 7:30. It seems logical that at some point the weight/tissue -resistance ratio will become in favor of the weight, and gains will result. But, how much weight is this going to take?

9soon

Maybe throw some OTS and other underused angles up. Definitly avoid BTC. It seems like straight out don’t really appaer to be working. My guess would be the straight up would work in the 18 lb or so range on you. They are strong but weaker than the rest of the ligs.

Thanks Twatteaser -

Yep, I’m going to really start concentrating on SU. If that doesn’t work at high weight, I just can’t figure out what other approach might work …
9soon

9soon,

>I’ve been hanging SO at 30 lbs maximum, 3 X 20 minutes, 5 times a week for a few weeks now. Took me many months to build up to this weight. After fatigue, I lower the weight to the next comfortable amount. I still don’t see any gains yet, and I’m wondering how high in weight it may be necessary to go. <

For me, it took a lot of weight and a lot of time to get my first gain. Every set that you do is contributing to breaking down the next limiting factor, so nothing you are doing here is in vain. If you have done x hours at y pounds, maybe you need x + 1 hours at y + 1 pounds. At the weight you are at now, I feel adding time would be far more beneficial than weight. Does your personal situation and safety allow for more sets, riding the fatigue for a longer time? If you can add more sets, a split session would work great here, AM and PM, as with your current routine you are giving the tissues 24 hours to heal between sessions, maybe you are hitting the same limiting factor day after day. If not, a manual stretch session or some manual pulls throughout the day a la RB would help.

>I’m staring SU hanging also (currently at around 10lbs per 20 minute session.) Also, I don’t really have any lasting fatigue after sessions, only sometimes during a session. <

Tunica fatigue is rather less pronounced than ligs. If you do piss pulls, do you feel soreness then? I would not swith angles 9soon, because this will likely effect a different part of the tunica than you are hitting now. You might be one set away from gaining and then you switch. You are far from out of options here. Where on the tunica do you feel the most stress, or is it spread out? If it is spread out along the shaft, I would suggest fulcrum hanging at the SO angle as the next option. What about ADS and traction wraps, do you do those or are you familiar with them?

>My LOT is 7:30. It seems logical that at some point the weight/tissue -resistance ratio will become in favor of the weight, and gains will result. But, how much weight is this going to take? <

I think you need more time as I mention above, more time at the lower weights due to fatigue. Blasting at high weights for only an hour a day may have the effect of strengthening without lengthening, something I noticed earlier in my career.

Good Luck
SS4

Just to clarify- are we saying that guys w/ a LOT of 7:30 should not be stretching BTC? My lot started at about 8 but is now closer to 7 or 7:30 in the last few months and all I do right now are straight down/BTC hanging under the assumption that my ligs need stretching until they aren’t stretched any more, *then* I was going to switch to OTS for tunica & lig base stretches…

advice?

Now that’s informative. Thanks SS.

With a LOT of 7:30, you have limited gain potential left in the ligs. If I were you, I’d start targeting the tunica.

SS4Jelq -

Thanks for a very informative reply. You raised some issues I certainly hadn’t considered.

>time would be far more beneficial than weight. Does your personal situation and safety allow for more sets, riding the fatigue for a longer time? <

It’s real hard for me hang for more than 1 hour a day at this point, so I’m kind of stuck with that available time. I can, however, try to do a little in the AM, to break up the routine and lessen the time for tissue-recovery.

>I think you need more time as I mention above, more time at the lower weights due to fatigue. Blasting at high weights for only an hour a day may have the effect of strengthening without lengthening, something I noticed earlier in my career.<

I’m concerned about this 1 hour time-frame - how do I avoid just strengthening the tissue here instead of loosening the tissue? If I had more time to hang it’d be a lot more simple.

>Where on the tunica do you feel the most stress, or is it spread out? If it is spread out along the shaft, I would suggest fulcrum hanging at the SO angle as the next option. <

What minor fatigue I do feel is in the general area of the base. It does not extend into the shaft, and goes away later. No fatigue during the day (when I do piss-pulls)

I will really try to get more time to allow for hanging w/fatigue at lower weights. Also, maybe the OTS hanging will work …

Thanks
9soon

Looks like I bought my starter BIB just in time then. It’s also a good thing that my ex-girlfriend bought this silly bed w/ a metal frame above it… it’s totally perfect for this type of hanging!

>:)

9soon,

>It’s real hard for me hang for more than 1 hour a day at this point, so I’m kind of stuck with that available time. I can, however, try to do a little in the AM, to break up the routine and lessen the time for tissue-recovery. <

Yeppy, a little in the AM, piss pulls, maybe ADS too and your set.

>I’m concerned about this 1 hour time-frame - how do I avoid just strengthening the tissue here instead of loosening the tissue? If I had more time to hang it’d be a lot more simple. <

By hanging in the fatigued state, ay lower weights. If you hang 30 pounds the tissues will adapt to hanging 30 pounds, they are good like that. So weaken them and keep blasting them. More hang time would be best, you are correct, but the ideas above will certainly help. By adding AM work and manual pulls through the day (run off for a 5 min stetch in the toilets now and then etc) you might make instant progress.

>What minor fatigue I do feel is in the general area of the base. It does not extend into the shaft, and goes away later. No fatigue during the day (when I do piss-pulls) <

On the underside I assume. I strongly suggest fulcrum hanging at the SO angle, this put most stress on the tunica on the underside at the base, divide and conquer. The work already done there will give you a good headstart, and this form of hanging would be the best for raising LOT.

>I will really try to get more time to allow for hanging w/fatigue at lower weights. <

Good good.

>Also, maybe the OTS hanging will work … <

Maybe it would. OTS is good for hitting the underside/base area too, I personally prefer (and had results with) fulcrum hanging, but it’s up to you, do whichever you prefer.

Good Luck
SS4

If I hung 30lbs and posted about it, this thread would be called:
Hanging 30lbs, no dick left

My hanging was always between the cheecks, but still, 30lbs is some serious weight.

:chuckle:

No shit, I feel like my dick is going to rip off with 15 pounds, I can’t imagine 30!

LOL!

I hang at 5 1/2 lbs.

Lower the weight and increase the time, I didn’t gain with an hour a day I needed about 10 hours a week to get gains.

Dino and all-
This is very intriguing. Anything else you can say about this…I’m dying to know! The idea being so sound.

Time vs Weight and what balance between the two is best.

—-Cap