Help me break my Plateau

I started my PE journey wiht the newbie manual stretching routine. It was amazing, I saw gains really quickly. Pretty much every time I measured my dick it was bigger. I had all the PI’s and everything was amazing. I gained 1 inch EL in 6 months. I then switeched to fulcrum manual stretching, gained another quarter inch and stopped PE. Now i’m back at PE, i started again with manual stretching but that wasn’t working. Switched to hanging and started gaining again fast. Gained a half inch.

When I first began hanging I would always hang straight down. Then i switched to hanging straight out, and straight out to the sides. this lead to my half inch gain. Then after a while I stopped gaining completely and started seeing negative indicators. I took a break and have only been hanging straight down and between the cheeks. I’m seeing positive indicators again but i’m not sure i’m doing the right thing.

So my current routine is pretty much all between the cheeks, 20 minute sets, 3 times a night 7.5lbs. I’m trying to stretch out my suspensory ligaments since i think this is whats holding me back. Any advice?

Like you, I’ve been trying to break through a plateau. Monty suggested hanging with a fulcrum, and I ended up designing a fulcrum that was comfortable and would suit my purpose (I explained the design in a thread I started yesterday).

The only other thing I could suggest would be to add some more weight. With all of your experience, I expect you could handle more weight. I also think that there is only so much you can gain by stretching ligs; eventually, you need to start stretching the tunica and septum, and that is more difficult.

My main problem is that I can’t seem to get any consistency. I’ve gotten periods of horrible EQ, periods of amazing EQ. Was able to get my post workout FSL really high but couldn’t get my EL to grow any longer. No matter what vairable I play with I don’t seem to be able to find something that works. Should I switvch to pumping? Vacuum hangers maybe sine they’re harder to fuck up? I’m at a total loss. not even sure what questions to ask.

In terms of hanging, 7.5 lbs isn’t much. My advice, if you stick with hanging, is to slowly increase the weight over weeks and months.
This week move up to 8.5 lbs. Next week move up to 9.5 or 10 lbs depending on feel.

If you are feeling a great stretch and it feels very intense, then stay at the weight for another week or two. Evaluate again if you are still feeling a good stretch. Don’t add weight without a plan. The goal isn’t to just add weight like it is a contest. However, at a certain point it is unlikely that stresses will effect your penis the same way over time. What gave you quick gains a year ago might only give you an 1/8th of an inch next year.

In regards to angles you can go shot gun and try every angle, go focused and just do one angle, or even do a hybrid approach. Maybe do 2 or 3 sets of a foundation angle like BTC or SD. Then do 1 set SO, 1 set OTS, 1 set SO but rotating your hips so it goes over your legs.

I think it is fine to experiment with angles but I would always have my core angles like BTC or SD that 60% to 80% I focus on them. As you move up in weight you might find that the weight you can do at SD is very different than BTC or SO. I write things down and keep notes that way it is structured.

More time or more tension. It’s the same with growing anything the body adapts.

Yep - consistency is really important. I keep a log on a spreadsheet, and have a goal of how many hours of hang time I want to reach for the month. But to be consistent, I think you also need to find a regular time and a place where you have the necessary privacy, and something to do while hanging (like reading a book, watching tv, working on the computer, etc).

I am super consistent, I’m kinda addicted to PE. That being said I don’t seem to consistently get the same results. Thats whats messing me up so badly. I can’t get my bearings because my results aren’t matching up in any way. I understand it’s normal to have off/bad days, but my results are crap and i’ve been working my ass off, trouble shooting for the past year. I’ve been in the PE game for a while. Manual stretching is no longer getting me gains, so i switched to hanging and i can’t get the hang of things.

Just letting you know I didn’t gain anything until I hit 10 lbs. I know many who also haven’t gained until around 10 lbs. I have read of many people who didn’t gain until they hit into the high teens in weight. I am jealous of you guys who get gains at less than 10 lbs.

I admire your consistency it is absolutely my biggest weakness. Bib came up with this guideline of 10 hours a week minimum for effective gains. I know that it isn’t true because I have never hit that number for more than a week or two. However, he based it off of what he saw the majority of people needed to gain. At least that is where I believe where that number comes from.

Now I do believe some vac hangers gain below 10 lbs but I believe they are getting in the extra hours and their sets are longer than 20 minutes.

Just looking at your routine, even though your consistency is great, both the weight and the amount of time under stress seem to be on the low end. Normally, I would recommend adding more sets to your routine if it is possible. If not I would start adding weight slowly, every week. This is a process that goes by feel.

I think you need evaluate again when you slowly work the weight up past 10 lbs or you are doing more sets every week.

I’ll take this advice. Gonna keep working til spring, if I don’t feel like i’m getting enough results i’m gonna switch to pumping or something.

Anyone have detailed photos of how to wrap? The skin around my penis is very very stretchy and i think it’s whats causing me problems. also if there’s any detailed photos of HTW for hanging.

I use a silicone sleeve as a wrap. I made some sleeves by following TPS’s ideas, and also have a “medium-thick” silicone sleeve I bought from monkeybar as part of his xsleeve product. You roll it up like a condom and unroll it like you’re putting a condom on. It comes off by rolling it off again, starting from the base of the penis.

I like it because it is easy and fast to take on and off. It also compresses the glans a bit, providing better circulation when I hang. The other wrap methods are a lot of fuss, take too much time, and don’t work as well for me.