How long hanging BTC before i can switch to fulcrum?

Hello everybody

i know you should always “finish” your gains with one thing before moving on and i read a lot that you should target your ligs first when hanging.
So now i hang BTC and i still have some issues with adding heat properly and i wanted to know, if it is already ok to start hanging fulcrum.

I am hanging for 4 weeks now and i am up to about 6.5 pounds. I am experienced with all kinds of penis exercises…

thanks so much

Why do you want to move away fro BTC?

i have pretty large balls and it is not so comfortable with heating. i don’t want to heat my balls all the time. i think it will be much better with fulcrum.

Ok. When I am doing BTC I concentrate the heat on my ligs, so the heat would probably only affect ligs, the top of your penis and not balls. I would give that a go. BTC is such a popular first method for hanging I would stick with it for a while longer.

Not sure if there is any issue with starting fulcrum early other that missing your potential lig gains.

That is what i do now, only heating the top of my penis. But it’s still not ideal and i wonder how much of a loss it would be to change “to soon” to fulcrum.

Well I think you are only losing out on potential, most people get results from lig stretching but if you don’t do it, for a reasonable length of time, you’ll never know that’s it. Not sure what would happen if you did fulcrum and then decided to go back to BTC, not sure it would have a bearing. I think the standard order of BTC first then fulcrum is just decided on how easy BTC is compared to fulcrum.

If your penis is conditioned I think it could handle either first.

How is tunica and lig stretching connected? How can they interfere each other? It makes sense to max out ligs first for better gains tracking and the step by step principles. I don’t see how alternating between BTC and fulcrum can be counterproductive in long term or am I missing something? Gaining might be slower overall (at least in the beginning if ligs are limiting tunica’s full potential) but I don’t see the same problem compared to girth to length thing. Would be good to know.

Perhaps try SD. Almost the same as BTC but your penis is not wedged between your balls.

Why not do both and see the results for yourself? I do SD manual hanging at 10 kg followed by aggressive manual stretching of all kinds like mandingo stretches, side, down, BTC and SO stretches. I believe my routine affects all the muscles of my dick simultaneously so that all of them are being maximized for potential gains.

My results? Awesome, as you can see in my signature.

Why not do both?

I think it is generally recommended to have one angle of attack and a secondary if you are hanging a lot in one day. Time under tension gives the best affect. So if had two hours to hang a day and split between BTC and fulcrum then you would only be doing one hour in each position. One hour targeting ligs and another targeting the penis itself. People generally agree it would be better to commit the two hours to the one angle. If you are hanging four hours a day, not sure many people do that, the advice seems to be to change to your secondary angle at some point due to diminished returns on your main angle.

Thats the advice from the folks that have been at it for years, I’m only months into it so I will follow that and see what works for me

I’ve said this multiple times on this forum and I’ll say it again. I don’t agree with the “time under tension gives the best result.” Rather, the amount of tension gives the best result, atleast this is true for me and for a couple of guys I know. More time under more tension is even better, but if for some reason you don’t have too much time, I reckon adding a little more weight for less time will give equal or better results.

As for targeting multiple angles and muscles, this approach has been very effective for me. I PE for about 40 - 45 mins a day and target all the angles and muscles. The results are excellent.

Good stuff, results are great. A good example of different things working for different people as is said many times here.

How many angles do you hit in a typical session?

Mandingo stretches (I don’t what angle that is lol), SD, SO, BTC, side to side and side down.

4 weeks isn’t enough time to condition your penis and 6.5 lbs isn’t enough to exhaust ligament gains. You need to put in months of hanging - slowly working up to a substantially higher weight (15lbs or more) to exhaust ligament gains.

Trying to hurry this process could result in an injury that prevents you from doing anything PE related.