I’m already questioning my routine.

Maybe you guys could help me analyze and perhaps suggest some modifications. I started a hang only routine a little over one month ago, 2/7/05 to be exact. My routine is as follows:

First week:
2X20min sets at 5.0lbs
5 days on 2 days off

Second week:
3X20min sets at 6.25lbs
5 days on 2 days off

Third week:
4X20min sets @ 7.5lbs
5 days on 2 days off

Fourth week:
4-5X20min sets @ 8.75lbs
5 days on 2 days off

Fifth Week:
5X20min sets at 8.75 to 10.0lbs
6 days on 1 day off.

I think that I may have gained a little but I don’t want to officially measure until I am at least 2 months in. I have gradually increased the weight week by week to try and find my max. I think I hit it at 10lbs, so I would do one set of 10 and then step down to 8.75.

That was early this week, now at the end of the week 10lbs isn’t fatiguing me like it was so I am hanging 10lbs sets without stepping down. I have also increased my days to six a week to try and get those 10 hours a week in.

I’m reluctant to step up to 11.25 lbs next week. I think ill go at least another solid week of 10 before I step it up, I’m just worried that im moving too fast. Also im not doing kegals at all, how important is it to incorporate these into my routine? Penis health aside will it affect my length growth if I don’t do them? I know it’s lazy of me but im sick of PE after spending 150min a day on it.

Sometimes I wander if I should incorporate manual stretches, has anyone tried this? I remember a few months ago when I was doing manual stretches my ligs would get really sore, maybe I could hit fatigue at lower weights by doing some stretches?

Id like any and all input.

Conventional wisdom (which may be right or wrong) says that you should always be hanging in the fatigued state. If you’re at 10# now and no longer feel any fatigue, you should—according to that conventional wisdom thing again—continue to increase the weight. You should never let your dick “get used to” the weight you’re hanging. When that happens, you’ve strengthened the tissues rather than extending them, and have perhaps made future gains more difficult to attain.

If you’re hesitant to increase the weight or question whether your skin or glans can handle it, you might try switching positions. You didn’t mention what position you’re using. If you’re hanging BTC, I would recommend switching to UTL (Under The Leg) for at least some of your sets. Do one side for one day, the other for the next. Alternate like that. This will increase the tension the various lig bundles are experiencing without subjecting your shaft to greater weight. Also, your primary BTC position will feel much more fatigued with 10# after your UTL sets than it would without the UTL sets, since you will have already fatigued many of the fibers.

If you’re hanging OTS, try working one side and then the other, in the same fashion as above.

I would have you look at your time off. Although I agree with ModestoMan. You probably need to obtain a fatigue again. However here comes the rub, If your 2 days off is enough to heal (for you) then your going to strengthen again and so need to move up in weight again. In order to prevent this you need to keep the ligs stretched at all times while you not hanging. Now that comes with a dose of practicality. Obviously you can’t keep an ADS on ALL the time but you can fill in many hours with light stress ADS to carry the stretch you achieved over until the next hanging session. What will happen is your fatigue state will perpetuate at your next hanging session and your need to increase weight will not be there. Thus the advantage of light hanging. At this point you then just need to do measuring once month or so and write it down in a journal or on a calendar.

Another thing to think about is taking an aspirin or an ibuprofen daily to slow down healing.

How do you know that your penis is fatigued? After a hanging session and being about to get an full erection mean that you have totally fatigued your penis?

Micro

You know you’re fatigued when discomfort rises to the point where you feel you have to reduce the weight to get through your sets. The discomfort should be in the structures that you’re stressing—ligaments or tunica. Skin discomfort is a different matter, and should be addressed by changing wrapping technique, hanger placement, or hanger settings (tighness and tow).

Thanks, I’m new to hanging and still trying to feel the ligs stretch instead of my skin. I’m actually starting to see stretch marks from the hanging. BTC hanging is probably the most difficult for me to do. I only feel the skin stretch.

Micro

It will take a couple of weeks (at least) before you get to the point where your ligs take the force from the hanger. You need to stretch your skin first. Take your time and treat your skin well. I used Vit E cream with aloe before bed each night. That seemed to help.

I’m just hanging regularly sitting up in a chair, is that what OTS is? I have hung four sets today my first at 10 and three at 11.25. I’m still not feeling fatigue like I was last week. Perhaps my ligs have maxed out? I have had a pretty low lot from the beginning 8:30-9:00ish. Do you think maybe I have already got all I can out of my ligs.

I tried SO position just for a few seconds to see how it felt and the pull was much more intense. Since Monty has seen such success with this position im really thinking about rigging up a pulley under my desk. And starting a solid SO routing. However, im reluctant to do this until I hit the two month mark hanging regular. I just don’t know what to do.

Monty, have you always hung OS? What is and was your LOT?

I guess ill try my last set at 12.50lbs, but I just feel like this is moving way to fast.

Also could someone direct me to a link explaining this under the leg position?

By the way, can any one address my question about kegals.

OTS is Over The Shoulder

I hope that I am not jumping in here but maybe ModestoMan might answer two questions that may help us both.

1) When veteran hangers talk about fatigue are they referring strictly to fatigue WHILE hanging?

Somehow I thought that the goal was to feel fatigue or ache during the day after hanging. I usually do not feel fatigue (ache) during the day between sets. If I do feel ache it is usually accompanied by some retraction, which I have decided to avoid.

2) After any light warm-up sets, should you hang your max weight such that you fatigue at around 20 minutes?

Somehow I thought I should increase weight up to my max. I tried my max first (15 lbs X 20 minutes) and was surprised how comfortable it felt. I then went to (17.5 lbs for 18 minutes). My new max is 17.5. I plan to using same or descending sets instead of increasing sets.

Any insights to fatigue and set parameters would be appreciated.

I hate to post again so soon, but I can’t edit it into my original post.

Is there any way to prevent the fluid build up? I hope you guys know what I am talking about, no matter how high I place the hanger I get these fluid pockets.

I don’t know if you can consider me a veteran (I hanged for several months), but I believe the answer to this question is YES. Fatigue is something you feel while you’re hanging. Not everyone agrees.

YES. You should strive to hit your max as early as possible. You may even want to skip the warm up sets and just use heat to make your tissues pliable. The idea (again, this is conventional wisdom—taken for what it’s worth) is to spend as much time as possible in the fatigued state. Sets involving less than a weight that causes fatigue are essentially wasted.

Bib thought fluid buildup was caused by wrapping too tightly. My experience supports this. The wrap should be loose enough that you can comfortably take a leak while wearing it. On the other hand, it should be tight enough so that the skin on the dorsal side of the penis isn’t pinched when you tighten the hanger. With luck, there will be a range in which both of these requirements can be met.

ModestoMan,

Thank you very much for your prompt reply. I am feeling optimistic about this new information.

SheLovesIt

Interesting you found SO to be more intense then regular hanging. BTC usually gets that award.

I have never given any time to LOT theory, but I must admit that is why I don’t do any SD heavy hanging and instead do exclusively SO or SU. I’ve saved the BTC for a time when I might plateau. That hasn’t occurred so I’m not there yet. I do kegel during my sessions though.

When it comes to fatigue I think the guide should be the point at which you feel you have to lower your weight to get through your sessions like Modestoman said.

If your climbing in weight fast you should consider putting on the brakes and falling back. You don’t want to end up in the 20lb area to soon if at all. Understand if you needing to gain weight all the time it means your healing very fast and you need to keep your weight sessions closer together to ride the fatigue. The only way to prevent having to hang 20 min sets 12 times a day is to keep your ligs stretched between sets. What you should be experiencing then is less need to gain in weight to get back to fatigue.

All of your hanging weight changes should be made on gain losses not feelings. Keep good records and when you gains slow THAT should be the time to go up in weight not because you FEEL you can handle more. That’s the philosophy that leads to injuries and excessive weight requirements. Better to decondition for a couple of months and start over with a good mental plan.

Ok, I think I may have found the problem. Trying to avoid the fluid build up I was placing the hanger further up the shaft. Now today I put the hanger where I use to and im feeling fatigued at 10ish again. Hard to tell because I did almost my whole first set in the lowered position at 12.5 and nearly ripped my dick off, the soreness kind of skewed my max after that. Tomorrow im starting with 10, and ill see where that takes me.

Thanks for all your help guys.