New hanger, old jelqer.

***rubs eyes, wipes head, regains vision***

Ok, I just got my bib hanger in the mail and I am ready to start using it asap. I am an experienced pe’er(jelqing), but I stopped a couple of months ago due to no gains at all over years of attempting to get some where. Now, I am going to start hanging as my last result at getting gains. I just have a few questions for the experienced hangers/gainers. Should I start at 2.5 lbs? Should I incorporate jelqing into the hanging routine at all or just hang? Does anyone have suggestions?

You should have gotten an email from Bib if you ordered it from him. That email will have the progression that you should follow. Most people start from 2.5 lbs up to 5 lbs. You can definitely do some light jelqing. However, the intention of it is for blood flow and not for girth. The most important thing is to follow that email and educate yourself. I constantly read the posts at Bib’s forum and there are always people that feel that because they have conditioned their penis with other PE methods that they can go faster than he recommends. Your skin will not be prepared for the lateral pressure and it will be agony. Take it slowly and learn the wrapping technique and how to tighten the hanger. The first couple months is all about building the foundation.

If you apply yourself and you are smart about it you will gain. It is just a matter of putting in the time and finding the right weight

I did recieve the email and I did read it, its similar tot he hanging 101 post on thundersplace. I want to start slow and at a low weight, i have nothing but time at hand with this. i dont want to rush anything at all. thanks for your input.

Is it best to sit or stand?

I prefer sitting for SD. At the light weights standing isn’t much of an issue but if you start doing this for long periods of time it can be uncomfortable.

For BTC I lie down on the my bed with my laptop on my abs and my feet on a chair. I have everything within range of grabbing. Others use an office chair that they recline way far back and put their feet into another chair.

The main thing standing, sitting, lying down is creating a comfortable environment. In my opinion you don’t want your time only to be hanging. It will get old fast and when you have periods of slower growth you might quit. However, if you can multitask and do work, play video games, learn new skills and the hanging is just a secondary thing you have a much better chance of sticking with it long term.

Haha I hear that. I just started my first hang and Im sitting on the edge of my bed with my feet on a chest which is half a foot below my butt and im hanging and playing battle field. The first sessions i started at 5 lbs which felt good, but I decided to go down to 2.5 and to work my way up from there. No need to rush it.

Hi cookie tree, it sounds curious when you said you didn’t get gains in years.. That must be kinda frustrating. What routines have you followed? Keep me updated with your hanger I might go for it too. You bought the starter or the normal one?

Cookie tree, my experience is that if you rush it you will feel almost all the problems in the skin areas of the shaft. You should expect some skin pull around the base of you penis going up and out a couple inches towards the abs. This will feel like it is on the surface and will be a slight burning feeling. This is good. You will need the extra skin.

When you start hitting the ligs is will be a deeper feeling and it will be in the same area as the skin pull but farther out almost to the upper thighs and lower abdomen. It will not always be symmetrical. I felt it on the left hand side for quite awhile before I worked through whatever limiting factor was there.

But what you feel on the shaft itself is soft tissues that can be uncomfortable. If you rush it to fast you will probably quit. Soft tissue pain on the penis can suck. If you work it up slowly you will have discomfort that you can deal with.

Spend lots of time trying to get the technique down correctly. As you move up in weight little flaws in technique will be magnified into bigger problems.

I really hope you stick with it.

Good explanation, i am starting my hangs once I get my hanger and always like to hear what I am going to be experiencing pain wise ha

Too much pain can spell trouble.

The right type of pain becomes something to look forward to as you engage the ligaments.

Slow and steady.

A good wrap is vital here, and starting at 2.5 lbs is probably the best way to go for a while. I started with 2.5 for 4 weeks before moving to 5.

Agreed Jimsballs. It is truly the foundation. If you don’t get the wrap right there will only be problems. Then its the placement in the hanger (nice and low) and then getting the hanger attachment correct.

Totally agreed A-unit. I don’t really call it pain but more of a deep soreness. I love it when I am done hanging and I feel the soreness for the rest of the day and even into the following day. Almost addicting feeling when you know what it is doing for you. I don’t like comparing PE to working out but I get that same happiness when my muscles are aching the next day. It’s kind of a mission accomplished feeling.

hey quim92, yea man it was very frustrating. I have literally tried every routine posted on this site by the vets. Ive tried everything but hanging, and one day I believe it was mem suggested that I try hanging. Although hanging always scared me I gave in and started it yesterday. I bought the starter kit as I am to small for the normal kit.

I know I can do the 5lbs but i will start at 2.5(lowest weight I have) for at least a month then go up gradually. Im basically following the hanging 101 thread that is in thunders.

My question to you guys with experience, how do I know when I am getting a good enough stretch(with positioning?)? yesterday i sat at the edge of my bed with my back straight up to the ceiling, my legs up and the hanger hanging straight down splitting my balls in half. Is that the right way? should I lay back, should I stand, should I get into a push up position? I also have no idea what my lot is, dont know if that matters at all when it comes to hanging but I just want to get into the best position that has the most potential for gains. This morning after my first session I woke up with a huge hard on, no pain, no problems. during the hang the only pain I felt was the actual skin stretching, I didnt feel anything internally as you guys were listing.

Am I doing this right? I took a picture but I have no idea how to upload it just to confirm I am doing everything correctly.

At 2.5 to even 5 pounds you are going to feel mainly skin stretch. It also depends on your attachment and the angle.

The angle you describe is SD. You seem to be in good position in the way you are describing it. I use it when I am having skin conditioning problems or other issues. I also use it to start my day. It is not as intense at BTC. If you slowly start lying back into bed, when you are completely back you will hit BTC. In order to do this you might need to put your pelivic area farther out from the bed so the placement of your feet is important. This way the hanger is not resting on the side of the bed. If the hanger isn’t hanging free then you have gone from a known weight to an unknown amount of pull.

When I first started doing BTC and lying down I would actually have my feet on the bottom rungs of a chair. Just the action of moving your feet up to the top of the chair or angling up your pelvic region even higher makes this stretch even more intense. For working on the ligs the BTC stretch is far more intense than just SD. However, you might need to work up to it. I find it a very effective stretch. You can probably gain with SD but BTC is an amazing stretch and you will notice the difference between those stretches over time.

There are posts here and on Bibs forum about LOT theory. I am not completely sold on the LOT theory however the other two tests that Bib talks about seem to have merit to me. These are the mirror and palpation tests. They are designed to show you what angles to start at, and how much potential you might have at the lower angles. For almost everyone that takes the test they end up at the lower angles such as SD and BTC. However, the amount of time spent at these angles is dependent on the tests.

Skin is usually what you will feel stretching first. In the beginning you are just working on building your tissues up to this. So the tighter the hanger the less skin you will stretch. However, in the beginning it is difficult to get the hanger tight enough. I usually tighten it to discomfort or tighten it to the point where it will require a lot of torque to continue tightening it. After I do this initial tightening I wait about 30 seconds and see if I can tighten it a little more. Usually I can get one or two more rotations. Then when I start hanging weight within a minute or so I tighten it some more. Throughout my first set I keep checking the tension of the wing nut. If it doesn’t require much torque to tighten, then I tighten it again. Usually I do this kind of tightening in the first set the most. By the second set your skin gets adjusted to it and you can get to that point quicker.

This is a building up process and the act of tightening the hanger can be hard on the soft tissues of your penis. So if in a session if you can’t tolerate tightening anymore then leave it be. This is one of the reason why you keep the weights low in the beginning. At low weights the hanger doesn’t need to be tightened all the way. However, as you go up in weight you will need to get it tightened where there is no movement of the hanger going towards the head. If this starts happening at the higher weights it will create a noose effect on the top of your shaft and the head and cause problems.

For the long term effectiveness of your hanger you should put a little Vaseline or 3-1 oil on the top bolt of your hanger. This is the bolt that you spin the wing nut on that makes things tighter. Plus when you tighten that wing nut you should start cupping the hanger with the opposing hand underneath the hanger and bringing the two halves together. This will take some of the friction away from the wing nut on the top bolt. If you don’t do these things they might strip over time.

When you get a chance you should probably check out Bib’s forum as it is loaded with information and he is a huge wealth of knowledge in regards to hanging. Some people get frustrated in the beginning and quit because they can’t get the adjustments of the hanger correct. He is your best bet of walking you through those stages. I am sure there are many people here that can help you out in those regards but he is the one who actually created the thing.