question for bib or any other pe vet

1. When hanging with the starter in over the shoulder and straight out, what should be the attachment point? I attach pretty close to the base probably about one inch from it, because usually any further up towards head hurts pretty bad. It seems like that pain increased along with my hanging weight of 14 lbs.

2. I know this question belongs in pumping forum, but I wanted to get various peoples opinions on it. O.K. they say for a short period of time after each pumping session you retain the increase in size. I think it was Braker that said, approx .5 - 1 inch temp. increase. Now, when I hang with 14 lbs. I know that my toughest lig is the fundiform(inner ligs, not the suspensory ligs). So if hanging 14 lbs for 20 minutes doesnt give me a temp increase, how can a pump create more pulling power than that amount of weight?

I’m not doubting the temp increase is true, just want to understand. But it almost makes me wonder if the pump is only some how reducing the fat pad in the pubic area. In other words making your nbpel = your bpel for a short period of time.

what do you think about #1?, good question……..

T-rex,

> 1. When hanging with the starter in over the shoulder and straight out, what should be the attachment point? I attach pretty close to the base probably about one inch from it, because usually any further up towards head hurts pretty bad. It seems like that pain increased along with my hanging weight of 14 lbs.<

Two things. First, when hanging OTS, you have more options because the skin is less of a factor. The skin on top of the penis is abundant because of the angle, and the scrotum on bottom, the area of greatest stress, will provide skin. Therefore, you can attach much closer to the base, and still provide stress to the internal structures.

Second, what is the source of the head pain? While it is fine to attach closer to the base, you should not have pain in the head at all. It could be an adjustment problem.

Bigger

>” Therefore, you can attach much closer to the base, and still provide stress to the internal structures.”<

Does that mean that further from the base and closer to the head in this position would be less effective at hitting the ligs?? Or would a variety of positions along the shaft be best, (just how closer to the head seems to hit more ligs in BTC or SO)??

bbs,

>Does that mean that further from the base and closer to the head in this position would be less effective at hitting the ligs?? <

Hmm, a little confusing. Speaking of the OTS position, it is very hard to impact the ligs. At that upward angle, the tunica should be taking most, if not all of the stresses. This may or may not be true for straight out. The point of attachment at those angles is not really relevant.

>Or would a variety of positions along the shaft be best, (just how closer to the head seems to hit more ligs in BTC or SO)??<

I always varied the attachment point at whatever hanging angle. Now, speaking of BTC, the closer the attachment to the head, in general, the more stress will be applied to the ligs. Or rather, the more opportunity for stress to be applied to the ligs. In BTC, the closer the attachment point to the base, the more likely you will only stretch SKIN, on top, toward the base.

Bigger

bib,

I’ve got really loose skin, so could I attach the hanger close the the base when hanging BTC and still stress the ligs?
Its quite hard to keep it from slipping but it is possible and removes the possibility of head pain.

SS4,

>I’ve got really loose skin, so could I attach the hanger close the the base when hanging BTC and still stress the ligs? <

Surely the looser the skin, the further back you can place the hanger, and still stress the ligs. I don’t know about placing the hanger at the base though.

Bigger

>”Hmm, a little confusing. Speaking of the OTS position, it is very hard to impact the ligs. At that upward angle, the tunica should be taking most, if not all of the stresses. This may or may not be true for straight out. The point of attachment at those angles is not really relevant. “<

Does this mean that low anglers already have loose ligs or have little potential for lig lengthening and that most of their gains might come from stretching tunica??

You had a high angle so it would seem that most of your gains came from stretching ligs, granted you gained some probably from tunica but more would be from ligs right??

bbs,

>>”Hmm, a little confusing. Speaking of the OTS position, it is very hard to impact the ligs. At that upward angle, the tunica should be taking most, if not all of the stresses. This may or may not be true for straight out. The point of attachment at those angles is not really relevant. “<

Does this mean that low anglers already have loose ligs or have little potential for lig lengthening and that most of their gains might come from stretching tunica??<

Well, it could mean they already have ‘loose ligs’. More correct would be to say they have longer ligs, or a lower pubic bone.

>You had a high angle so it would seem that most of your gains came from stretching ligs, granted you gained some probably from tunica but more would be from ligs right??<

I estimated that slightly more than half of my gains came from the tunica. This is because of the relative distance of the tip from my navel before and after PE. Very unscientific. Since my entire package was lowered, it does not seem to me that lig stretch could account for the fact that my tip was well below my navel, prePE, and well above it post PE. IOW, hard to believe that lig stretch could account for my penis to go out and up further than prePE. Out surely, but not up.

Bigger

So clearly than low and high anglers work is separated: one must focus on ligs and the other on tunica??? So all of the talk and focus of hitting ligs might not be beneficial for someone with already loose/longer ligs ??? Interesting…..

bbs,

>So clearly than low and high anglers work is separated: one must focus on ligs and the other on tunica??? So all of the talk and focus of hitting ligs might not be beneficial for someone with already loose/longer ligs ??? Interesting…..<

I would say those with longer ligs (low riders) may benefit more from the higher angles and those with shorter ligs (high riders) may benefit more from lower angles (BTC). Just a theory, and does not preclude progress for either group of the opposite hanging angles.

Bigger