Selling Bib Hanger

Hello everyone!

First- I would like to apologize for opening this thread in the “Penis Enlargement The Basics” Forum, I registered here on this forum with the main purpose of opening this thread. I am a client of Bib’s, but I find this device very uncomfortable to use (since I am uncircumcised and so far- constriction based hanging has given me nothing but skin stretch) and this is why I want to sell it. If opening this thread in this forum is in any way a violation of the rules of this forum- I apologize, please, delete it.

Question: Why am I selling my Bib Starter?
Answer: As mentioned above- this device does not work well for me since I am uncircumcised. I have been recommended to try out a Vacuum based hanger and I am now selling my Bib (1- because I no longer need it, I do not want to use it and 2- because I am on a tight budget and I need money to buy the Vacuum based hanger).

Question: How long have I used it for?
Answer: I bought my hanger and started hanging with it. It did not feel comfortable since I am uncut, but I decided to give it a try for a month and see what happens. After that month of hanging, I had to stop PE (doing Penis Enlargement) due to privacy issues and left the hanger in the box for several months. Recently, I tried to get a session with it again, but I just gave up on it. Haha! So, to answer the question- the device is 9 months old, but it has only been used for a period of 1 month.

Question: What will you get if you buy the hanger off me?
Answer: You will get the Bib Starter hanger and the Theraband wrapping sleeve as a bonus.

Question: What are the details (price, shipping etc.)?
Answer: I bought the device for 116$ (95$ for the hanger, 5$ for the Theraband and another 16$ shipping tax). So, I want to sell the hanger for 80$ (20$ less than I ordered it for), shipping not included in the price. This means that the product price is 80$ and if shipping to your country is 10$- you would have to pay a total of 90$. I will mail the device in the same box I got it in (that’s where I was keeping it while I was not using it haha). I am in Bulgaria. If interested, write here or PM me for additional details (payment method, shipping method etc.). :)

If people are interested in my offer- just post here in this thread or send me a Private Message. I will then send you the pictures via email.

If you have any questions- do not hesitate to ask- PM (Private Message) me or post here in this thread.

FrozenMallet,

Welcome to the forum. I think it will be hard for people to buy your hanger, considering you have no post history here and therefore no trust. You could potentially sell it payment on receipt but that would require that you trust the buyer.

Hey, thank you for the answer! Well, you are right to be honest, I would mistrust such a seller as well. I guess I can just be more active around (and ask more questions as the more I know- the more gains I will get).

Have you posted on bibs forum? There are uncut guys that have had a good experience. I’m also uncut and you just discourage me….

I personally think it is a high price. I’m sure its new but bib sells it for almost the same price.

I am a user at his forum, yes. I have my own thread and post there only (because that’s how Bib likes it- everything in order). I am sorry for discouraging you, but it is just what I found to work/not work for me. I know it is all about the wrapping and stuff, but I really can not figure it out. I’ve posted on the forum, wrote to Bib via email, but I just can’t stop getting the hanger attached so it does not slip and (it is not the hanger, but the skin it is attached to that rolls over the glans). Once I tried my Phallosan Forte ADS- I really felt comfort and stretch (because I only felt my skin being stretched with the Bib).

I have A LOT of PE equipment (Lengthmaster, Bib Starter, Sizegenetics Extender, Phallosan Forte, Hydromax X30 pump, Hydromax X30 Xtreme pump and a Fleshlight (I consider it girth-edging device)), I have tried hanging with my Lengthmaster, but my skin always just slips down and gets the hanger attachment along with it. I am now following Bib’s advice- to first reach my final length goal and then go for girth, this is why I want to buy a Vachanger3. Many people associate it with the Phallosan in terms of comfort and this is really what gets me- because using my Phallosan is a PLEASURE.

I am not saying that constriction based hangers are a big no-no, I am just saying that I enjoy using my Phallosan (where I roll my skin back and have 0 skin stretch and 100% ligament stretch when I extend BTC or downwards (I have made special modifications using a thin stretchy rope)). I used to hand up to 4 lbs (yea, it is absolutely nothing), but I felt nothing, the day before, I attached weight to my phallosan and hung 3 lbs with it- and I can definitely say I felt that lig stretch (plus I reached FATIGUE, which is all we want- exhaust the ligaments and then ride the fatigue stretching). I am pretty sure that there are MANY men out there who are in the same position as I am- uncut, but still somehow manage to use the device adequately. Plus, I read quite a lot (as I told you, I am not so new to PE) and it seems that another advantage Vacuum based hangers have over Constriction based hangers is that they can be worn for 60+minutes (which really exhausts the penis even at lower weights).

The price- Yes, you might be right. New announcement- if anyone is interested- PM me or post here in this thread and I believe we can make a deal! :)

It is just a pity I just ordered all my equipment, that includes: vac hanger, vacextender, bibstarter, cheap pump, and a mate will give me his old phallosan (that can hold less weight than the new phallosan forte). will be great keeping in touch with you. what is your PE experienes routines and gains man?

How much weight do you think the vachanger cna hold?, Maybe in the future the LG is your choice. What does Bib says about your problem with his hanger? I have emailed him about the same matter and he said it should be no problem. We all uncut guys hav e a similar anatomy right? why would somebody find it imposible and others not?

Nice set of equipment you’ve ordered I see. :) You’ve ordered a vac hanger- NICE! But why both Vachanger and Bib starter?

My PE experiences so far- well to be honest I have been doing PE, but my biggest mistake was that I was VERY inconsistent. I’ve made some really good gains (0.25 inch girth in a month, then stopped and lost it, 0.6 inches in length in 2 months- then stopped and lost that as well etc.) . I am not back to my original size of 6 in length and 4.5 in girth (yea, SO SMALL!). As mentioned above- I am now following Bib’s advice on going for length first and then for girth (physics law- the thinner an object is- the faster/with less force it stretches). So, now I have a Vacuum extender (I use a SG+PF combination modification), which is actually VERY comfortable and I can wear it for 8 hours without taking it off (depends on the stretching intensity). I have the extender, I have the ADS, I just need a high intensity device to deform tissue and then heal extended to maximize mitosis.

I am on other PE forums as well, I can link you threads and posts where everything about the Vachanger is perfectly explained, I am just not sure whether it will be a violation to the rules of this forum. But to answer your question- even though MB has tested it to support a max of 30lbs, most people comfortably hang up to 11 lbs with no blisters. Others start having problems and getting blisters just because they should start increasing by 0.5 lbs instead of 1-2 lbs. Post 8lbs, small changes need to be made as the pressure needs to be much more (which causes blisters if your glans is not properly adapted). There are many people who advise me to get the LG, but I can give you links as well to some threads where it is discussed that VacHanger is not so much “cheaper” when it comes to quality. I just do not have the money to buy the LG. If I had the money, I wouldn’t be selling my devices in the 1st place. I am now selling my X30 as well. Hopefully, someone will buy it and I will get the chance to buy the Vachanger. :)

Bib has been very helpful, as I said- there are MANY uncut guys who still progress and hang comfortably with his hanger, but Vacuum based hangers do have a lot of pluses (especially the ultimate comfort, 0 skin stretch and the ability to hang for 1hour+ periods). I think it was here- it was discussed that the more you hang (with no rest)- the better the fatigue level (which is what the main aim is at). It is just that to me- in PE what matters the MOST is COMFORT. I want my sessions to be enjoyable and comfortable. This is why I believe I have made the right choice (hopefully I am right).

It would be great to keep in touch. :)

Don’t want to intrude on your thread to much but I just wanted to offer a slight correction. I don’t want people repeating what you say as matter of fact.

As far as I am aware any method of hanging no matter what the device will not target one area 100%. Even when I am stretching my ligs I am sure a certain percentage will be stretching skin, tunica, and other parts of the penis.

Think of the logic behind this. How can you get your penis to grow if the skin doesn’t stretch to some degree to accomadate the new growth.

If you can reach fatigue at 3-4 lbs that is awesome. However, that can be something that is special in regards to you. It is quite a low weight for hitting fatigue. However, if that is the case you should feel lucky because you will probably gain easy. Just using a Bib 10 different people can start hitting fatigue at 10 different weight levels. We are all different. Just don’t want someone getting a phallosan and then wondering why they aren’t reaching fatigue at 3 lbs.

I do agree with you that comfort is very important to your hanging career. This is time that you are investing and that is not a bad priority to want.

For those that don’t know how to wrap and use the bib starter or hanger here is a video I found

Yes, I have watched that video- it is a video of the user “stillwantmore” putting on the Bib hanger. I have followed these steps, but he is cut and it seems to be working for him (not me though).

A video of an uncut guys wrapping would be AWESOME!

30lb with the vac hanger? That is more than with the LG. I wonder what is the advantage of the LG over the vachanger.

Why can’t you buy the LG? Are you a student too?

Man… If you gained with manuals you know it worked for you. Why don’t you try to maximize it till you stop gaining?

Yes, the Vachanger3 has different types of hanging (I don’t remember them all to be honest) and one if these 3 does have the potential to reach up to 30 lbs. I do not know what makes the LG better- I have read many people being perfectly happy with their Vachangers. I know of none who own both devices (if I did- I would immediately as for a comparison thread).

I am 22 years old and I currently live alone. My problem back then was inconsistency, but now I am ready to go. The LG is just too expensive for me. I have spent enough on PE equipment already. Plus, I am a Bulgarian (and our country is very poor actually) and can’t really afford such an expensive device (I can, but that would mean I’d have to spend the money I should pay my rent with).

I opened a new thread in the “Basics” forum about length gaining and what I believe is the way to go. I hope I get more people joining the discussion so we can really figure out what the best method is actually. I love to learn new things and I love to improve! The reason why I want the hanger is- manuals and hanging are basically the same thing- a stretch with a certain angle. What makes hanging the most intense form of PE (Penis Enlargement) is the weight that can be hung with (there is no hand limiting strength factor) and the time spent hanging (as your hand would get tired if you stretch for more than 30 minutes with no breaks). I am planning on starting off very lightly and moving forward. My plan is to be on a 100% extension routine- a combination of High and Low intensity exercises/devices so I can heal expanded and induce mitosis (the process of cell division- when a mother cell divides into 2 daughter cells) at its maximum potential. So, I will start off VERY lightly, but will have my PE all over the day/night. :)

No, you are not intruding in any way!

Yes, I absolutely agree with your post! I just wanted to emphasize on how good my ligaments were stretched instead of the skin, this is why I wrote “I get 100% ligament stretch”. And yes, there must have been skin stretch as well, but maybe less than 3-4%. While I was in extended state- my base skin was not being stretched, because the sleeve of the PF held all my excess foreskin (since I am uncut, I definitely have a lot of skin) at the base. So whenever I stretched with the device- I could still touch excess, unstretched skin on the base of my penis :)

I have never said people reach fatigue at that level of intensity, I just said I do. I am sorry if this causes confusion in people, maybe I should have clarified. But I have never said that people “should” , “must” reach fatigue at a certain weight. I am sorry for the misunderstanding, you have gotten me wrong. Yes, this is something highly individual. :)

I heard about the lg hanger too.. I think is better than the grip system. For me the grip system was a piece of junk. I think after I sell my bib starter I will buy the lg hanger. Its more expensive but I think it would be worth it. I also come from other forum known as phalloboards but I left there because they started tripping. Now I’m here full time.

Good to see there are other people into Vacuum hanging as well. :)