The "Thicker The Rope" theory

Since I started vac hanging I used SO, 27/9/2021. I gained 2.9 cm.

The reality is that the ligament stretching will produce the most “gains” for most men. Assuming you are not one of those men that already have their member exiting their body at a very low position.

As far as the TA, I consider that you might have to consider the fact that you are really not growing or stretching the TA but rather pulling it out. Kind of like a turtle head. Chances are the weights being used only place you in the elastic region and not in the plastic region giving you non- permanent gains. (Mother reason why so many lose part or all gains after stopping PE)

To me that falls under newbie gains. You could have probably done just about anything (pumping, jells, extender..etc) and got those gains. Intact the angle and weight didn’t matter. I really believe that most guys can gain an inch and in some case up to two inches with just about any method. just have to read these PE forums and you can see the variety of methods and results.

What stands out is when you see a guy go over that 1.5-2 inch mark. I say this because these guys are either doing something extreme or as you mentioned have some genetic disposition for gaining.

As far as toughening the TA by hanging, you would then have to consider all those that changed over to hanging after using other methods in an effort to gain that extra length they so desire. None of them hanged before and in most cases when they start to hang they rarely achieve more than 1/4 to 1/2 in gains above what they had already achieved with their other method.

I think heat plays a big part in making the gains come. I think with SO there is very little pull on ligs so wouldn’t expect that to be giving gains. Also during my SO hanging my erection angle was actually starting to point more upwards which indicates ligs are not getting stretched.

I was doing PE for about 10 months before this point. I also gain 1.8cm before this point.

Welcome to the club. So you have made 1.8 inches in gains in 17 months. Impressive.
My total strapped in time is around 21 months over the last 4 years and I gained 2 inches. Most from hanging.

See here is where it is about to get interesting. As I mentioned, anybody can gain up to 1.5-2 inches. The big question is beyond that when gains stop from the methods you have been using.

It is not that I dismiss any new method such as US or heating or hanging this or that because I don’t think they work. I just find that above the 2 inch mark is where I start to take notice. When a method works beyond that mark I take notice.

I am at that 2 inch mark. I am just not as motivated to go beyond that because I feel I am good with my 8 x 6.25 (sometimes 8.125 x 6.5 depending on EQ) and as they say “is the juice worth the squeeze”.

You would benefit from BTC if this is the case. That is if your member is not already in a low exit point.

Was thinking that too but will leave that till I am done with my current hanging approach, then I have something to fall back on if I want more length.

Unfortunately heavy weights doesn’t necessarily guarantee gains, at least it didn’t seem to in my case. I hung up to 37.5lbs for sets of 20 minutes, and I didn’t notice much of any gains. Perhaps I was gaining a millimeter or so, but I didn’t notice if I did. But then again, even at 37.5lbs, it wasn’t my penis tissues that was preventing me from going heavier. I never once felt fatigue in my penis. It was pain at the attachment point of the hanger that prevented me from going heavier. I do think I probably could have had more success if I had a method of attaching heavy weight (think, 60, 70, 80lbs and up) that didn’t cause unbearable pain at the attention point (or blisters).

Oh, and on my best day, at the best angle, hard as a rock, I’m 7inches bone pressed, 5 inches girth.

Goma,

I applaud your use of reason and common sense. What you state in your original post is exactly what I have been wondering all along. I started following Kyrpa’s research, mango’s, tutt’s, and others a few years ago. I finally applied the science on myself and achieved incredible results that I was chasing for years.

However, it has always wondered my mind. Not only based on girth, but also on length. A bigger BPFSL HAS to require higher loads/weights. For example, let us exaggerate things in order to understand the point. A penis that is 5 meters (500cm) long in BPFSL, will see little to no effect by having 4kg of tension. But a penis that is only 10cm in BPFSL, will suffer severe inflammation from those 4kg of tension.

Therefore, there has to be a specific formula for the correct tension applied according to the size of the member. Talking it to realistic scenarios, a penis that is 15cm in BPFSL, will be affected in a different way by 4kg of tension than a penis that is 22cm of BPFSL. Both will see results, but not at the most accurate mathematical approach.

At the same time, as the user grows his BPFSL, this same principle will apply to go adjusting the weights progressively and accordingly. But we lack scientific research in order to establish these mathematical principles.

That is some incredible weight with no gains. What angle?? What did you start at? What girth?

SO is tunica. Tunica is what causes length to grow most. Lig stretch seems okay and I w done three years hanging sd and btc consistently, 4 sets a day but at most 3/4 inch and maybe 1/2- 3/5s of an inch. Not much for the work I e put in.. I e gone to 33 lbs for ten minutes and 31 lbs a couple months at 10-20 mins at a time. I’ve used Bib starter
SO makes most sense to get tunica gains. And in my expirience, when I e done this angle , the little length gains ive made , I’ve gained most with this angle.

I also could be on the middle to end of bell curve, say a 7 ,on a 1-10 scale for how tough collagen tissue is. Also my base girth since day one has been six inches. Now it seems a bit bigger.

Recently, I’m doing manuals much more. Still hanging BTC and some sets so. For SO I hang from bed to a filing cabinet facing downwards and gets a bit uncomfortable. Looking for a device I can attach to hanger to drawer or desk where I can do so.

Igigi

Thanks!

I agree 100%. Like everything one must adjust as you get bigger. I think your length point is valid. I think that BPFSL is probably the best indicator of future gains to BPEL.

I think my biggest frustration is exactly what you mention. Not having a more exact method or formula to calculate the entrance into the plastic region. Funny how that information would be the holy grail of the PE world. Then again nobody alive is going to hang X amount of weight off their member for science. Hope fully somebody someplace is doing some study that will shed light on this subject.

Something like this?

I was mainly hanging straight down, while standing up. I would actually swing the weight around in a circle, which effectively made it exert more force than just 37.5lbs static

Over the past 3.5 years I’ve probably gone from 4.75 to 5 inches girth, maybe. I’m not sure about my exact starting measurements so it’s difficult for me to judge progress over the years. But I’m right around 5 inches girth now.