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Bathmate vs Air pumps - don't buy a bathmate.

Originally Posted by Glenns
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I have nothing against the Bathmate, I had many great sessions in the tub with it, obviously we have bathed together and we are very close now. However; I got the air pump initially due to being able to pump without the added complexity of needing water.

Being able to control the vacuum pressure with the use of a gauge is a huge plus for me. There are a few things we can measure when pumping: time, vacuum pressure, elongation, expansion, and personal feel.

The additional measurement of vacuum pressure provides me the added benefit of being able to more closely recreate my last session or make adjustments to find the sweet spot.

At the end of the day it’s personal and we go with what works for each of us.

Pumping for pleasure feels easier in a water pump like the Bathmate. Pumping to gain, especially early on in PE endeavors, is easier done with a gauge and the ability to do it anywhere you have the privacy to. Not camping out in the tub or walking around with a tube full of water waiting to have a very hard to explain puddle appear on the floor if you lose suction.

Additionally, the inability to precisely calibrate it makes pumping inherently more dangerous and damaging to EQ.

Most frequent newbie post I’ve seen is:

“My EQ is down after Bathmate, what now?”

Stop using the Bathmate! Learn more then come back if you really want to!


Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.

Never had problems with the x40. Its just a matter of practicing until you learn the best and quickest way to use it. Also throw in the vacuvin like daddy recommends and everything is way easier

Originally Posted by LittleEngine
I have nothing against the Bathmate, I had many great sessions in the tub with it, obviously we have bathed together and we are very close now. However; I got the air pump initially due to being able to pump without the added complexity of needing water.

Being able to control the vacuum pressure with the use of a gauge is a huge plus for me. There are a few things we can measure when pumping: time, vacuum pressure, elongation, expansion, and personal feel.

The additional measurement of vacuum pressure provides me the added benefit of being able to more closely recreate my last session or make adjustments to find the sweet spot.

At the end of the day it’s personal and we go with what works for each of us.


+1 to this. You said pretty much what I was going to say. I will however say to what the original OP was saying I find the bathmate pump last longer and is all around more efficient and effective FOR ME. I’m speaking for me and only me to each his own. It’s way WAY overpriced but it has worked. I combo air pumping in the a.m. bathmath in the tub or shower at some point in the afternoon or evening. That’s what’s worked for me personally I’ve gained albeit temporary I know I need to pump to keep the gain. It’s been almost two years and the bathmate was the first tool I got sucker’d into I’ve gained over a half inch in girth and even more with temporary effects.

Originally Posted by kingscounty
+1 to this. You said pretty much what I was going to say. I will however say to what the original OP was saying I find the bathmate pump last longer and is all around more efficient and effective FOR ME. I’m speaking for me and only me to each his own. It’s way WAY overpriced but it has worked. I combo air pumping in the a.m. bathmath in the tub or shower at some point in the afternoon or evening. That’s what’s worked for me personally I’ve gained albeit temporary I know I need to pump to keep the gain. It’s been almost two years and the bathmate was the first tool I got sucker’d into I’ve gained over a half inch in girth and even more with temporary effects.

I think the temporary effects of the bathmate may last longer for me as well, but I believe that’s because I tend to overpump with high pressure in the bathmate. It’s hard to tell how much pressure is too much using it.

Also, a half inch in girth permanent gains is amazing for under 2 years. Was this achieved with a pumping-only routine?


Start - 09/28/16: BPEL: 6.5" MEG: 4.66" (Pumping, Clamping, Cockrings & Stretches)

Current - 11/25/20: BPEL: 7.2" (+.7") MEG: 4.75" (+.09") --- Roughly 1 year of PE and a long hiatus in between.

Girthquest: Short-term Goal: MEG: 5" -- Ultimate Cemented Goal: MEG: 5.25"

It’s been mainly pumping with jelqing in between to restore and get hard then back into the tube. I was around 4.75 meg I’m now around 5.5 meg 6 at the base. Here’s the thing….I know it will go away once I stop pumping. I tried hanging…8 weeks in and maybe 1/8 inch of length…I was loosing my mind so I stopped. Hanging feels great but being immobile for almost 3 hours a day drove me nuts. Plus I think all the pumping has really toughen my dick up.

As far as over pumping in the BM I just listen to my body I’m beyond used to it at this point. I actually feel I go less than 5hg in the BM. I’m working on taking more days off in hopes that healing time will help cement gains. I started with the BM and listened to guys here and got an 1.75 tube with a gauge. I quickly went up to a 2 inch that’s where I am today. I’d like to try going back to the 1.75 for length, however it’s tight and almost uncomfortable now. I wish I could find 1 7/8 tube. Good luck.

Originally Posted by kingscounty
It’s been mainly pumping with jelqing in between to restore and get hard then back into the tube. I was around 4.75 meg I’m now around 5.5 meg 6 at the base. Here’s the thing….I know it will go away once I stop pumping. I tried hanging…8 weeks in and maybe 1/8 inch of length…I was loosing my mind so I stopped. Hanging feels great but being immobile for almost 3 hours a day drove me nuts. Plus I think all the pumping has really toughen my dick up.
As far as over pumping in the BM I just listen to my body I’m beyond used to it at this point. I actually feel I go less than 5hg in the BM. I’m working on taking more days off in hopes that healing time will help cement gains. I started with the BM and listened to guys here and got an 1.75 tube with a gauge. I quickly went up to a 2 inch that’s where I am today. I’d like to try going back to the 1.75 for length, however it’s tight and almost uncomfortable now. I wish I could find 1 7/8 tube. Good luck.

Yeah I don’t blame you for giving up hanging, no way I can dedicate that much time to it.

Damn, 4.75-5.5” MEG and you’re sure that’s all temporary? Discouraging. I wonder if you could cement that size if you stay consistent?


Start - 09/28/16: BPEL: 6.5" MEG: 4.66" (Pumping, Clamping, Cockrings & Stretches)

Current - 11/25/20: BPEL: 7.2" (+.7") MEG: 4.75" (+.09") --- Roughly 1 year of PE and a long hiatus in between.

Girthquest: Short-term Goal: MEG: 5" -- Ultimate Cemented Goal: MEG: 5.25"

Originally Posted by Pizzza
Yeah I don’t blame you for giving up hanging, no way I can dedicate that much time to it.

Damn, 4.75-5.5” MEG and you’re sure that’s all temporary? Discouraging. I wonder if you could cement that size if you stay consistent?


The thing is I don’t give up pumping so I’m not totally sure it’s all temporary. What I do know is when I go on vacation and I’m not pumping for say 5 plus days it definitely deflates some. Friday night a pumped 3 times throughout the day….I haven’t measured in awhile…it was a little over 5.5 meg that night. I didn’t pump on Saturday I wish now that I measured to me there was a visible difference and by my own hand test there was a difference. Maybe 1/4 plus difference. I’ve read many here who say it takes years with pumping so I’m staying positive and because I really enjoy pumping I’m going to continue even if I get permanent results. Matter of fact I’m in my air tube right now! Haha!

I use a Bathmate. I also own an air pump, but it doesn’t have a gauge and I don’t think it works as well for me personally. If someone can recommend a great air pump I’d probably get it, though, just to compare.

Bathmate *does* announce the maximum pressure its pumps can generate, and it’s nowhere near a level that can cause damage. I forgot what it is, though.

I have an X40, and once you develop your method, it’s fairly straight forward. I walk around with it (after an initial 5 minute period of building up pressure) and do a morning round of emails, and it’s never fallen off once I learned how to get it on without air bubbles.

Thanx for the info, I was thinking of buying a bathmate but after reading some posts I decided staying with the airpump but I will try using water every now and then.


Disfrutando de las ganancias temporales mientras se construyen las permanentes. Mi progreso

Enjoying temporary gains while building the permanent ones. My progress

Originally Posted by plumpRod

Thanx for the info, I was thinking of buying a bathmate but after reading some posts I decided staying with the airpump but I will try using water every now and then.

There’s a knock off out there for way cheaper. Never tried it myself but a lot guys here have do a search and see if you think it’d help you.

Originally Posted by Smooth99
I use a Bathmate. I also own an air pump, but it doesn’t have a gauge and I don’t think it works as well for me personally. If someone can recommend a great air pump I’d probably get it, though, just to compare.

Bathmate *does* announce the maximum pressure its pumps can generate, and it’s nowhere near a level that can cause damage. I forgot what it is, though.

I have an X40, and once you develop your method, it’s fairly straight forward. I walk around with it (after an initial 5 minute period of building up pressure) and do a morning round of emails, and it’s never fallen off once I learned how to get it on without air bubbles.


eBay brother that’s where I got my cheap air pump set up. I’ve had to replace parts and pieces over this past month. But for almost two years it held up well enough for the price. Type in penis pump and a bunch will come up, the one I got has two tubes 1 3/4, 2 inch and a red break bleeder pump with a gauge. I’m thinking it was around $60

Positive BM user

I have nothing but love for the bathmate. First of all I love baths, and find them so relaxing, so the fact that I can pump in the bath makes taking a bath more fun. I love the overall feel to it, and just to clear up about why it doesn’t have a gauge is because water has a set maximum pressure unlike air in which molecules can be continually dispersed, which is dangerous, but each to their own and I have no doubt Air pumps are great too if you treat with care.
Been using my BM x40 since november and have seen an increase in girth of an inch, which is quite good if you ask me, or ask the girls I have fucked haha!
In terms of length gains, I can’t attest to it providing those, as I think my length gains have come from stretching and jelqing but I love the bathmate in combination with the exercises and sometimes if I’m not bothered to jelq, the bathmate is a good way to get that pump in before I stretch!
Now with EQ, I can only imagine people have been affected badly because they were just plain stupid and staying in too long, or definitely doing something wrong. I do three 5minute sets, 2days on, 1 day off, and if I ever feel fatigued I take an extra day or however much I need to recover, but that’s natural in any exercise regime, and so far any loss in EQ I have come across, has not been down to the bathmate but to my dick and Pelvic floor being tired from all the exercises combined - so a little rest always fixes that.
Also I find the Bathmate has been great for me as a sex toy, since the temporary gains are awesome, I can use it right before I meet a girl and impress the fuck outta her, but what I find is, that it has helped me last long due a slight loss of sensitivity which is only post pump, but isn’t so much that you can’t feel, because I’m definitely feeling a lot and cumming hard, but it just cuts my sensitivity ever so slightly so I have this perfect balance of feeling orgasmic yet not needing to cum, and I have pleased a few ladies beyond their expectations and gotten plenty of compliments such as ’ Woah thats the biggest I’ve seen ’ ’ Oh so thick ’ and ’ That was the best sex ever ‘. Honestly could anyone be negative about the bathmate if they received such comments after using it?
I love the Bathmate.

Bottom line: Everyone will have something that works for them, but you can’t just label the bathmate is bad and accept that as fact, since it works for many people too, but same can be said for the opposite like me, since it doesn’t work for others.
Life is build full of opinions, so all we end up doing is discussing endlessly and trying to give each side to the story.

Peace.

Bathmate says the x40 puts out 4 bar but I’m not sure how many hgs that is. Whatever you do don’t buy the knockoff x30 its got a very cheapy valve I heard and the rubber is like made from tires too very toxic. Xenolith I think likes to use the knockoff x50 so I guess that ones okay of he likes it.

I’m very lean , zero fat pad maybe half an inch and that must help me get it on but I do place it to one side per set because that’s just how it works best for me. No ball sucking and no air bubbles guaranteed with this method.

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