Can One Gain More Length After Packing Tube?

Hello,

Say I am using a cylinder to pump just penis or both penis and balls.

If the width of the tube is packed, can one then keep pumping to gain more length??

It seems to me once packed, the area that is in contact with the inside of the tube would get little to no vacuum and all vacuum would be focused at the very end. This would put most if not all the vacuum in the small area on top that is not in contact with the inside of tube. Therefore I think further length would be stopped.

Anyone with experience on this?

Frypup

Tube packing does seem to focus force on lengthwise expansion. I’m not entirely sure if this increases the rate that the penis is lengthened or if it just limits girth gains, yet. I am entirely certain that using a tube which is easily packed restricts girth gains from pumping.

You are correct in saying that once packed all of the vacuum is focused on the glans and what that often leads to is getting blisters on the head and they are a real bitch.

For increasing length I prefer to use a tube one size up from one I can pack and increase time in the tube to 25 to 30 minutes without a break at pressures no higher than 5inhg.

In my opinion, if you are packing most of the cylinder, you are preventing most of your erection from sliding up the walls of the cylinder and are only allowing the glans and the unpacked portion of you dick to be forced outward. Accordingly, I am with gprent on this one.

Hello gprent,

Nice to hear from you. I value your opinion and experience with full package pumping.

So you are saying to stay under vacuum for 25-30 minutes without a break? That is a pretty long set. Is it dangerous to do that? Do you do that with penis only and with full package pumping? What success have you had with that?

Also, overall, what permanent changes have you gotten from full-package pumping?

Thanks,

Frypup

I prefer to pack the cylinder and let it force my growth up the cylinder. It’s takes lower vacuum and being very watchful.

Titleist,

What vacuum level do you use? Are you referring to penis only pumping?

Thanks,

Frypup

Yes, that is exactly what I said, without a break. You have to condition yourself to pumping that long by slowly increasing the session time over a week or 2.

I never stuck with full package pumping for that long. Comparing the 2 methods, I like penis only pumping, probably because it’s a lot less hassle. :)

Yes, penis only. I at or below 5hg.

gprent,

In a post you started in 2007 entitled “Full Package Pumping” you were raving about full package pumping and the results you got from it.

Besides the hassle of it, anything else that made you stop? Why was it more of a hassle?

Frypup

I’ve noticed this before, the friction in the tube even with lube can be enough to prevent the penis from elongating more. The more the tube is packed, the more friction. Which is an interesting problem for penis pumping.

From my own experience there’s a huge difference between lubes for prevention friction under packed conditions, which aren’t the same for sex.

More lube seems to be better than less lube for reducing friction, but part of the problem is that pumping under packed conditions forces the lube to the top of the tube, reducing the function lube to a very very thin layer.

Designing a perfect lube for pumping would be an interesting project.

On its face a large amount of coconut oil is the best lube for packing I think. It has high anti friction qualities but a low enough viscosity that you can disconnect the tube from vacuum and move the cylinder back and forth to recoat the shaft.

I think probably the very best set up, going beyond just lube, would be to use a water based lube and a condom to prevent skin to acrylic contact completely. I haven’t tested it, so it’s just an idea, and it would add an extra cost to a pump session. Also the smell of latex could be an issue for crypto pumpers.

It’s probably not worth it to go into the chemical engineering side of this problem to create a lube that retains a certain level of layer thickness under pumping conditions for safety reasons. I don’t know though, maybe it could be worth experimenting with different emulsions of safe substances.

Hey guys I do two 1 hour sets

Should I break the sets up into 15 minutes increments because I been doing a whole hour straight
With no breaks for each set

I just started back pumping. I got a 12 x 2 inch tube that I pack after awhile. Although it’s usually lymphatic fluid, my head usually fills it too after awhile. I did go overboard and after packing did end up blistering the head some. Besides easing off, would anyone recommend a wider tube?

That’s what Learned too small cylinders lead to blisters so I got a cylinder with a diameter of 2.5 now and guess what?

No more glans blisters

Im going to tack on here and add that disregarding whether or not packing the tube facilitates further length growth, I think there is another important thing to consider, that being fluid build up and other skin related issues. From my time using tubes that were to wide to now switching to a 2in diameter pump I have at least some objective opinion on this. So lets break down the two options for pumping between a oversized pump and a fitted one.

1. Oversized; The pump being large enough in diameter that most likely no “packing” will be reached at any point through the tube from the head to even the base. This can also mean tubes that are to large to be packed unless the user starts with a smaller tube first. This will leave an even negative pressure surrounding the entire member. “Surrounding” as in there will be direct contact of the skin and the negative pressure inside the cylinder.
2. Fitted; The pump will be sized properly enough that with some engorgement the member will begin “packing” parts of the tube. This typically will start at the base, and leave areas further up the shaft and the glans still “surrounded” by the negative pressure.

I think we all already understand these premises, however I like to make sure all definitions are clear before continuing on to a point. What I think is important to consider here, is that any skin that is in (what we can define for this argument) direct contact with the negative pressure will be affected greater at the epi/subdermal levels than areas that are not. What I have personally observed is that areas in direct contact will see greater risk for Spotting(red spots caused by capillary breakage at the subdermal level), bruising or blisters (another epi/subdermal issue), and edema. Edema while not directly a subdermal issue, it can be argued that by wearing sleeves or other methods one can reduce the stress on the skin during pumping which can also reduce edema, so there is a moderate correlation. The second point of consideration is that while a “Fitted” tube will ultimately decrease the amount of skin in direct contact with the negative pressure it does not mean that those areas are not enduring a greater internal volume than during a typical erection. So while, yes, the areas where the tube has been packed will most likely not continue any further direct expansion outwards they will still be under the force of the vacuum for the duration of the exercise. For example if ones base-girth is 5.5in, were to enter into a tube that allows for them to reach a base girth of 6.0in before packing the tube. The user would still be stimulating 0.5in of outwards growth at the base, while at the same time limiting the base with further contact directly with the negative pressure. By doing so I believe are you not only limiting the possibility of adverse side-effects (spotting, blisters, bruises, and edema) to certain areas, but actually ensuring that the “packed” areas are being directly affected by increase in blood flow and tissue engorgement, rather than stimulating fluid and blood build up at a the subdermal levels.

My point here is that I think its far more beneficial to use a fitted cylinder no-matter if your goals are for girth or length. As by going for something in which cannot be packed (or can once edema has been introduced to the system) will mean your more likely introduce things that are non-conducive to ACTUAL growth. Spotting, bruising, and edema are all of which have 0 benefit to stimulating growth, and while are not inherently bad, they serve 0 purpose to the pursuit of expansion. While again the premise of using a tube that can be packed should offer some level engorgement, which will more than likely be tissue/tunica expansion, before then sealing off from direct contact with the negative pressure system, thus decreasing the possibility of continued non productive affects taking place.