Condom pumping

"Pumping to those extreme low pressures does not exist in nature, therefore your argument, that your cock is reacting to some natural force is bogus."

I never said evolved to withstand high external pressure as you suggest. There are cases in which it would be advantageous to have some sort of penile pressure release:

http://www.ncbi .nlm.nih.gov/en … 4&dopt=Abstract

This thread also lends significant evidence to the hypothesis that high pressure can enlarge the penis. What I don’t know is if these individuals sometimes experience penile bloating (fluid under the skin). Now I know what you are going to say, "That is not strong evidence for an evolutionary mechanism for a long list of reasons." I agree.

I am not really attached to the small pore hypothesis. I mostly don’t believe it because it is not the simplest explanation. I am leaning more toward the idea that the penile blood leak at very high pressure (qualitative statement, I know).

This is from my fist post in this tread and I meant it.

"It is a brain storm really, and the resulting observations from an experiment. It is very speculative and I am not looking to defend the ideas contained but I would very much like to know what you guys think."

"I know you get huge. It’s freaky nice. It doesn’t last."

Yes, fluid build up between the skin and the tunica does not last but the leading hypothesis is that repeated stretching of the tunica results in gains. Although my girth gains are modest, I have gained.

"Your efforts are nothing more that a scientific experiment of useless value,"

I am a little disappointed by this. I have read some of your posts and you seem like a bright guy. You obviously assessed me to be an idiot and I can only blame my poor writing for that.

On the other hand, is this how you routinely treat people whom you deem confused?

PS

Your thread fascinates me. I too have experimented with condom pumping and would be very interested in anything you or any of the other gentlemen here have to say on it. I’ve also made two other pumping discoveries by accident that might be of interest here, although this reply might best as a new thread in the pumper’s forum, (moderators please move it there if it is out of place here.) Like most newbes I over did my first pumping experience and compromised the tender CS with a pretty severe donut, which even now, five months later is very susceptible to fluid build up, (tip ventral side) so I have to be careful. I tried numerous things to avoid more damage to this already damaged tissue, however the girth gains I’ve enjoyed keep me at the pump. The ace wrap works pretty well, but is a mess with the lube and gets slippery and does not want to stay on. After trying countless methods I find the best thing for me is a 1-1/2 ID PVC coupling that fits down inside my 2” girth cylinder stopping at just the perfect spot due to the flared shape of the tube. Pumping to 8 in HG my dick is pulled through the coupling so that the tender area is perfectly covered and after I do three fifteen minute sets with five minute hand jelqs in between I end up with a very nice 6.5 inch girth base tapering to a traffic cone shaped tip with no donut and very little fluid build up. The girth stays unchanged for about 24 hours then slowly reverts back to 5-3/4 FG which seems to now have become a permanent 1”gain from my starting FG of 4-3/4 in about five months. I was lucky that my length falls just right for the place the coupler is stuck in the tube; if I gain much length I may have to go back to the drawing board. However this has really worked out nice for me girth-wise.

Also, speaking lengthwise, due to a pretty nasty ingrown hair on the dorsal side of my shaft at the base that got infected and made a big lump that stayed forever, I began experimenting with some ways to pump above the bump. At Home Depot I bought a role of the foam rubber pipe insulation that is used on the power jelq, only bigger (1-1/2 ID) and coated it with KY then slipped a section about three inches long down over my shaft to the base to protect the bump by giving the tube a good seal almost two inches down my shaft. Pumping at very gentle almost unreadable pressure (just enough to keep the tube stuck on the end of my dick and swinging) I’ve been running around the house wearing it for long periods of time. The result is a very long flaccid hang of about 6 inches that stays for nearly 24 hours. I’m wondering if wearing your double condom beneath my pipe insulation would keep the condom rings from digging into the shaft allowing the condoms to enhance the flaccid hang even if taken to a slightly more aggressive pressure. Sometimes our best discoveries are by accident, but I just hate being the first guinea pig.

Later
BG

Cool link Penismith; I especially like this from the abstract:

“Megalophallus probably resulted from permanent loss of elasticity of the tunica albuginea due to severe engorgement during the episode of priapism. This sequela needs to be recognized by physicians because no intervention is necessary and sexual function seems to remain intact.”

I wish we knew his before and after measurements.

As a side note on the extreme high pressures; I also keep it short- typically running up to 15HG or so and holding for 30 seconds- then down to 3-5 with a stroking action on the tube. THis engorges my penis with blood very effectively at which point I drop pressure, remove the tube and message the shaft. THen I re-insert and repeat. Occasionally I’ve gone as high as 20-25 but this atypical and that gets held for 5-10 seconds, then down to 10-15 for 10 seconds then down to 3-5 with the stroke.

In this two month period I’ve gone from 5.25 to 5.6 or so. Length has gone from 7 7/8 to 8.

I’m going to give the condoms a try in place of the tighter wrap first.

penismith,

OK, so I got a little crazy. I apologize for that, nothing personal at all. I don’t think you are confused either, but man, some of those pressures are extreme!

Safe pumping!

I totally agree gprent! I’ve been yanking the crank since the late ‘60’s but was always working in the dark (so to speak) and had always heard that this would accomplish nothing…but it felt good so what the heck. Point being that my tool is pretty stretched as it is and the 5hg felt like pretty much nothing…it’s not until I break 10hg that I feel a good stretch and unless I go 15-20 I won’t even hit the 8” mark.

But as you say, this isn’t something you’d even remotely suggest to newbie as things are much less flexible.

Heck, I’m on vacation this week and dollars to donuts my first pump session will be very light/low compared to my usual otherwise I’ll find a whole lot of fluid build up. By comparison it takes 15-20 minutes to start seeing noticeable buildup with high pressure if I do it everyday.

So next Sunday, when I’m back, I’m going to give the condom a try!

Big Girtha,

Thank you for your comments. Wow, I think your discoveries warrant a new thread. I think they could be useful to guys and they may not be noticed here. I am feeling very encouraged by your gains.

MrP-P,

Thank you too for your comments. I am also encouraged by your gains!

gprent101,

No hard feelings. I think you have contributed a great deal since joining. Yea, some of those pictures are kind of crazy.

One thing I forgot to mention. I do a rice sock warm up before pumping. I also warm the tube up before insertion so that everything is very warm. There is nothing I hate more than entering a cold tube, except of course, unwittingly biting into a bar of unsweetened chocolate :(

Cheers,
PS

I am totally with you on the warm up thing. Exactly the same for me.

You may have read this before from me, but if you have not tried it, I guarantee you will like it. Wrap the tube in an electric heat pad while pumping. It keeps you oh so nice and warm and prevents all condensation. The pad I use is from Target, made by Kaz, 12x15 pad for about 15 bucks, model no: HP710.

I know you are an expert on pumping, but if you haven’t tried this, it will add a new dimension to your routine.

I am by no means a pumping expert, especially when you consider some of the experienced guys here.

The heating pad is a great idea. I have read about it before but I have not tried it. I will probably try it out some time after Christmas.

Have you ever pumped with the tube mostly full of hot water (leave a pocket of air to be pumped out near the nozzle to lower the pressure within the tube) I read about this somewhere (I don’t remember when or where), and I tried it once a few years ago. Have any of you guys experimented with this?

Cheers,
PS

I have heard some guys rave about the water pump, and the great effects is has at lower pressures.

However, when I made my pump purchase decision from LADIST, the choice was the work horse pump that was water compatible, or the gauge pump that was not. I selected the gauge pump because it gave me more of a sense of being in control. Although I can’t use water, I am happy with my choice.

I just noticed that I was describing pump use as though I was still using it. For the record, I have stopped the pump for a while and am currently doing manual stretch and jelq techniques.

While pumping, I did experience discoloration, which always bothered me. I must admit that it was my fault for going at it too aggressively when I first started and it was a habit I found hard to break. Therefore, the discoloration kind of followed me throughout my pumping experience of almost 2 years.

Since taking a break from the pump about 2 and a half months ago, and beginning a manual stretch and jelq routine, the discoloration has completely disappeared, and I am making very positive gains. If I start the pump routine again, I am going to be careful to not go through the discoloration process again.

Hi

I joined this experiment and did condom pumping during the last two days at 15HG / 10 minutes.
Exactly as penismith describes the flaccid looks longer and stays fatter for a longer period of time with less fluid built up.
I will take Fri off and measure on Sat.

Cheers

Andreas
Bangkok

Thailand, nice! Bangkok is the definition of 24/7. Those beautiful Thai women are going to love your results.

Man now I’m anxious to give it a try with the condom, dammit.

In respect to the article of priapism producing tunica growth: I tried recreational use of Viagra 4/2002 and got the 6 hour hard-on and headache (now I use Cialis from Liquid Research) and noticed that there was a definite, though temporary, flaccid and erect girth increase (frankly, at 8” and a hair I don’t want much length increase).

For the record: 4/2002 - eg @ 5.25”…started consistent PE (mostly high pressure pumping) 10/24/2003 (happy 45th to me) and eg is now 5.6.

Using the condom to reduce fluid buildup should (I think & hope) produce faster gains…this could be interesting.

I’m currently using an LA Pump 2” x 9” tube with a Myti Vac…I get a good seal around the base as my girth there is close to 6”…but during the stroking, milking portion I get skin up into the tube (no balls thank you God)…if the condom doesn’t help in this region (and I don’t expect to) I’ll try a session with the bandage.

Thank you all for a great thread…consider this an experiment, my little guinea pigs.

HamsterMan (tm)

Hmm. There seems to be something to this condom pumping idea but I’ll be darned if I understand the physics of it.

I tried it again yesterday after reading many of your comments. Although I didn’t retain much pumped volume for extra long after my session (I pump in the morning), all evening I was hanging very heavy and am again this morning. I don’t use nearly the vacuum levels some of you report, btw.

I’m wondering if results aren’t somehow dependent on the size condom used vis a vis one’s girth. A more ample condom allows more stretch than a smaller one, but what does that mean, anyway?

I would say this one is still in the experimental stage. I would on occasion get to 12, but 25? That scares the hell out of me. I am sure penismith will keep us posted on the value of the condom proto-type. Without pioneers, where would we be?