Could one simulate high flow priapism with a penis pump?

Just wondering, could you simulate high flow priapism with a pump, and achieve the growth that is reported with such a case of priapism?

Could something like long sessions of pumping then letting the erection subside and pumping up again ad nauseum, simulate the high pressure highly oxygenated situation?

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I guess the pumping is the easy part. But how to have high oxygen saturation intentionally is a question I have no answer for. Because usually I have high oxygen saturation in endurance sports like jogging or bicycle racing uphill, which are pretty contradictory to erection times.

Well as long as you are bringing in fresh oxygenated blood with each up down cycle then that should already be taken care of. I realise now it was not clear in my post, I was suggesting long pumping sessions made up of countless short cycles. Like pump up to full erection, hold 1 minute, let erection subside as much as is practical (while keeping a seal) pump up again, 1 minute hold and on and on and on.

Ok, I see the idea.

But I may express doubt that an erection will subside enough while the pressure seal is kept. Or did I understand someting wrong?

Nah you might be 100% correct, I haven’t tried it yet. Just putting the idea out there and if that method isn’t workable, maybe more suggestions will appear as to how the situation might be simulated.

I’ve pumped for hours on end. I’ve never had anything remotely close to a priapism experience. That said, the stretch is what caused me to gain length.

Right ok, I must not be explaining this properly. I’m not talking about triggering priapism, I am talking about simulating a high flow priapism event. It has been shown in various case studies that high flow priapism, where the erect penis is constantly supplied with fresh oxygenated blood, can cause permanent penis enlargement.

To simulate that situation, one would need to maintain an erection while making sure the penis would keep on getting fresh oxygenated blood. So really the only way to get close to that, in my mind, would be cycling on/off, letting the erection deflate part way, then filling it back up with fresh blood. The question is (for me) how frequent those cycles need to be? Like if the cycle needed to be 5 minutes erect then fresh blood, most pumping routines are already simulating a high flow priapism event, and successfully too.

When using an electric penis pump, like the DP 4000, you can simulate the durations that you’re speaking of using the software. However it becomes difficult to achieve what you describe because erections naturally subside while pumping for many of us. Furthermore, the use of a pump to precisely pump you up to full erection and then hold that pressure for one minute it’s not exactly something that an electric pump may be optimal for. However, the durations you were speaking of would require an electric pump or incredible stability of the mind and hand strength for a hand pump.

I do think that a DP 4000 may be able to do what you ask but as far as oxygenation of the blood going in and out of the penis I do not think you would reach the oxygen saturation that you want to have for your simulated priapism to occur. I feel that some sort of outside factor oxygenating your blood much more than normal would be required for set oxygenated blood to have a chance of reaching the penis.

Lastly, the side effects of simulating priapism may not be good. Generally priapism is supposed to be avoided. I would actually be more interested in controlling the causes and then the cure for priapism because those things could cause a controlled priapism event much easier than pumping would.

Causes of high flow priapism:

There are three types of high-flow priapism: traumatic, neurogenic and post-shunting. Traumatic high-flow priapism may arise from penetrating or blunt trauma to the penis resulting in rupture of the cavernous artery or its branches. Despite the unregulated large arterial flow, this does not result in rigid and painful erections, as seen in low-flow, ischemic priapism, because the venous channels are still competent. The neurogenic type is seen after irritation or injury to the central nervous system, and this is typically self-limiting. If this type persists, then it may change to ischemic priapism, and should be treated accordingly. Post-shunting high-flow priapism is a result of reactive hyperemia in response to the hypoxic and acidotic state of ischemicpriapism that lasts more than 24 hours. This condition will continue only if the shunt remains open. Once the hyperemic state subsides, the minimal flow in the flaccid penis will not be able to keep the shunt open leading to its spontaneous closure in most cases. In general, since blood circulation into and out of the corpora cavernosa is not impeded in cases of high-flow priapism, the condition is not painful, the penis is not completely rigid, and the prognosis is excellent if it is treated properly.

Seems like pumping would be way easier than them.

NB. Important to clarify 100% that in every instance I am referring to high flow non ischemic priapism. Ischemic priapism is no good and can cause major damage to your penis due to starving it of oxygen.

While it seems easier, the oxygen rich environment you’re asking about is kind of the problem. As pressurized, the penis also accumulates lymph fluid directly proportional to vacuum levels. So, if not for that, high flow priapism would be very common with pumpers if I had to guess.

Low flow ischemic priapism is basically what we’re doing with clamping. It’s the real deal, as we can clamp up with no stimulation, and create an erect state that would last for hours if we didn’t remove the clamps.

High flow nonischemic priapism, I think is approximated by flaccid pumping. Problem is the non-stimulated erect state only lasts for minutes at most, then it turns into more of a semi-flaccid stretch with lymph buildup. But for those first few minutes, when it’s all blood, and no lymph, I think it simulates a high flow priapism very well.

Fair point and probably means it’s not possible to simulate it for any meaningful length of time, definitely not for hours in a row as happens with the natural condition.

Short but frequent pumping sessions would be the go I guess, similar to what is suggested if pumping for ED.

You can’t simulate a high flow priapism with a pump, I had those events and it’s a internal pressure. Pumps only effect the outside pressure and not the internal pressure.. Priapism tends to last for 4-5 hours and not 5 min/

If I had to guess, the level of pressure approximated by PE4F pumping is similar, due to maximum pressures being reached in any blood structure in the penis at an incredibly rapid rate. Outer pressure causes lymph buildup however, so the effect is not going to be terribly similar over a sustained period.

I guess you’d have to directly manipulate the blood pressure within your penis to simulate this. And using a means that generated pressure from the inside out. That I’m pretty sure doesn’t exist at this point.

So based on the feedback given to me in this thread, I have been trying a routine which looks a bit like this:

Get erection, lube up, get in pump and pump up to around 2-3hg. Maintain for 3 minutes, let pressure out then pump back up, do that x3. Then get out, let erection subside completely, regain erection and get back in pump, repeat earlier 3x cycle. Lose erection, repeat.

Big impact in erection frequency and strength already, will check measurements after a month of doing it (just one week in). Possibly the cycles within cycles are unecessary and I could just do 10 minutes pumped as one cycle.

FYI, I cannot pump from flaccid as was suggested due to a few issues re erection angle, body hair etc.