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Selecting Your Cylinder Size

Originally Posted by gprent
I like to use KY because it is so easy to clean up after, but wet the inside of the tube with water or dilute the KY with a little water to prevent it from drying up while pumping.

Wouldn’t diluting with water make it drying up worse? Since water is more easily absorbed by the skin.


Starting 10/09/17: BPEL 7” & MSEG 4.75”

Current 12/18/17: 7 1/2" BPEL & 5" MSEG

Goal: BPEL 9” & MSEG 6”

Originally Posted by soonerbomb
Wouldn’t diluting with water make it drying up worse? Since water is more easily absorbed by the skin.

No, but if it does start to dry, don’t add more KY, just add a little water to rejuvenate the lube qualities.


The primary goal of PE should be to make your penis as healthy as possible in both form and function. If you do that, increased size will follow.

Hey guys I’m new and have a question.
My penis head girth is 4.5, and shaft is around 4.1 at best.
For girth I bought a 1.75 diameter LeLuv cylinder thinking the widest part was the glans anyways, and that I aimed for shaft girth increases.

Am I correct in my newbie assumptions?

Thanks!

Originally Posted by Ostinato
Hey guys I’m new and have a question.
My penis head girth is 4.5, and shaft is around 4.1 at best.
For girth I bought a 1.75 diameter LeLuv cylinder thinking the widest part was the glans anyways, and that I aimed for shaft girth increases.

Am I correct in my newbie assumptions?

Thanks!

You might have a little hassle with your balls trying to be sucked into the cylinder. If you do, try bone pressing the cylinder into your crotch as you begin to pump up and that should help. Also be careful where you put your lube.


The primary goal of PE should be to make your penis as healthy as possible in both form and function. If you do that, increased size will follow.

If you have about $28 to spare. PumpToys offers a great hRd silicone gasket that slightly reduces the opening size but significantly improves comfort.


Start 11/09 BPEL: 5.5", EG: 4.4"

Current. BPEL: 6:4", EG: 5.5"

Originally Posted by gprent
You might have a little hassle with your balls trying to be sucked into the cylinder. If you do, try bone pressing the cylinder into your crotch as you begin to pump up and that should help. Also be careful where you put your lube.


Thanks, also;

I recently bought a Hydromax X30 but I realized the pressure was way out of my league, didn’t want to risk it.
If I gradually become acclimated to a LeLuv 1.75, would using the Hydromax X30 become easier later on as I gain experience? Do air vacuums pave the way for more efficient water pump use?

Originally Posted by Ostinato
Thanks, also;

I recently bought a Hydromax X30 but I realized the pressure was way out of my league, didn’t want to risk it.
If I gradually become acclimated to a LeLuv 1.75, would using the Hydromax X30 become easier later on as I gain experience? Do air vacuums pave the way for more efficient water pump use?

I got Bathmate X20, ,I have some thinking like u.. I felt that Bathmate pressure is way above 5hg

Originally Posted by Ostinato
Thanks, also;

I recently bought a Hydromax X30 but I realized the pressure was way out of my league, didn’t want to risk it.
If I gradually become acclimated to a LeLuv 1.75, would using the Hydromax X30 become easier later on as I gain experience? Do air vacuums pave the way for more efficient water pump use?

Look at the first post in this thread that shows how Bathmate pumps can reach a vacuum pressure of 16 to 17"hg when they are pumped until no more water is expelled.

Bathmate vs Penomet Vacuum Gauge Pressure Readings

Air pumps are certainly a much safer way to condition yourself to pumping, but even when fully conditioned, you don’t need pressure much higher then 6"hg to get significant results. The key is to pump for longer times at moderate pressure.

Perhaps using the air pump will give you a feeling for the equivalent pressure you are experiencing in a Bathmate, but in my experience, it is hard to equate the pressure you feel in air to that in water. Just try not to pump the Bathmate up to even half its capability.


The primary goal of PE should be to make your penis as healthy as possible in both form and function. If you do that, increased size will follow.

Originally Posted by irishjim
According to the table I’m way off the mark in using a 12” x 2.5”! My BPEL is 7.75” with mid-shaft girth at 6”. I’m hitting 8” in the tube and manage, with a bit of care, to maintain a good seal at the base and avoid a testicle being sucked into the tube. I bought this monster based on a table published on a UK website, but had I seen this excellent table here I think a wiser choice would have been 11” x 2”.

I have almost the same measurment 6” MSEG and I want only length so went for a 12X2 cylinder :D

Originally Posted by gprent
Look at the first post in this thread that shows how Bathmate pumps can reach a vacuum pressure of 16 to 17"hg when they are pumped until no more water is expelled.

Bathmate vs Penomet Vacuum Gauge Pressure Readings

Air pumps are certainly a much safer way to condition yourself to pumping, but even when fully conditioned, you don’t need pressure much higher then 6"hg to get significant results. The key is to pump for longer times at moderate pressure.

Perhaps using the air pump will give you a feeling for the equivalent pressure you are experiencing in a Bathmate, but in my experience, it is hard to equate the pressure you feel in air to that in water. Just try not to pump the Bathmate up to even half its capability.

Is the pressure more tolerable in air or water?

I would venture a guess the reason some people report massive gains in a short amount of time with the BM is because of it actually producing 17Hg pressure like everytime you pump it to max. If I didn’t misunderstand the video instructions guys put it on pump until they cant expel more water (so 17Hg) and keep it on for 5mins take it off and massage then repeat 3 times?

Originally Posted by srsabpe
I would venture a guess the reason some people report massive gains in a short amount of time with the BM is because of it actually producing 17Hg pressure like everytime you pump it to max. If I didn’t misunderstand the video instructions guys put it on pump until they cant expel more water (so 17Hg) and keep it on for 5mins take it off and massage then repeat 3 times?

I take it you have never pumped. There is no way you should start off with a bathmate and pump it to the max without causing significant blown capillaries and bruising damage. Starting pressure for newbies is in the 3”hg range.


The primary goal of PE should be to make your penis as healthy as possible in both form and function. If you do that, increased size will follow.

Originally Posted by gprent
I take it you have never pumped. There is no way you should start off with a bathmate and pump it to the max without causing significant blown capillaries and bruising damage. Starting pressure for newbies is in the 3”hg range.

You are right. Im just so confused because I got the impression from the bathmate instruction you are supposed to pump it until no water comes out and voila. Would water protect you from blown capillaries maybe? As opposed to air pumping. I dont understand the product and why its so effective for some people.

Originally Posted by srsabpe
You are right. Im just so confused because I got the impression from the bathmate instruction you are supposed to pump it until no water comes out and voila. Would water protect you from blown capillaries maybe? As opposed to air pumping. I dont understand the product and why its so effective for some people.

Here’s a good thread for when you have some spare time The Physics of Water Pumping

Going off of this quote

Originally Posted by rootsnatty

When water pumping, on the other hand, the penis will expand outward to a fully erect state, and encounter an incompressible “wall” of water. This wall essentially stops further expansion from happening at an unrestricted rate. If not overzealous with your pumping intensity, this will prevent most fluid retention as there is really no place for the fluid to go – significantly more force is required to shove fluid across membranes into these constricted spaces. Water can slowly be evacuated from the cylinder at this point with the aim of creating a slow further expansion, just fast enough to keep up with the viscoelastic creep of the tunica. Here, the heat of the water also aids in further and easier tunica expansion. In this way, water pumping doesn’t directly “pull” more on the tunica, as many have said here, instead it limits fluid (other than blood) buildup/inflow, allowing more of the total expansion achieved during the pumping session to be from tunica creep.

My guess is that the "wall of water" and the heat negates some of the typical negative PI’s associated with overpumping (such as fluid buildup), which isn’t to say it’s safe just that it may be harder to realize when you’ve overdone a routine. It’s also worth noting that if you don’t get a perfect seal with the BM your max pressure might be slightly under the 17hg max pressure but still more than most air pumpers would use in a typical routine.

Also I’ve seen very few reports of people with continued gains in the long term from BM. I frequently see people who get anywhere from .5" to even 1"+ of gains over a several month period, but it seems to usually fall off. Not to say some people haven’t gotten good continuous growth from the BM, just that it seems like a majority of users get some quick gains (which can be permanent) and then don’t get much more once their tissue has gotten accustomed to the pressure.

Man I knew I should have done some research. I didn’t even think about cylinder size when I ordered one. I kinda figured the ring at the bottom was key to not sucking up testicles lol. I do notice that a lot of people recommend 3-5 hg and I’m feeling it very intensely at 2-2.5hg. Could this be from the cylinder being too big? Not sure on the cylinder size but it sucks up a good mount of flesh under my base when pumping and it’s very spacious lol. I hope that’s what up cause I don’t even want to try 5hg at this rate lol

Originally Posted by SkoobaSteve
Man I knew I should have done some research. I didn’t even think about cylinder size when I ordered one. I kinda figured the ring at the bottom was key to not sucking up testicles lol. I do notice that a lot of people recommend 3-5 hg and I’m feeling it very intensely at 2-2.5hg. Could this be from the cylinder being too big? Not sure on the cylinder size but it sucks up a good mount of flesh under my base when pumping and it’s very spacious lol. I hope that’s what up cause I don’t even want to try 5hg at this rate lol

I think so yes. using my larger diameter air pump the pressure was almost unbearable at 3Hg. Using my very tight fitting long water cylinder 5Hg feels like nothing.

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