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Back At It! Research And Consistency = Gains?

Back At It! Research And Consistency = Gains?

After a long break due mainly to working far too much I’ve decided to jump back into the game again! Long story short I worked a lot when I was younger so I never had time to consistently do PE for long periods of time. I did gain some base girth and some length and have maintained it through the years. From time to time I have pumped randomly, mainly before having sex, but nothing serious. At this point in my life I have more free time to devote to this and have been searching on here and reading as much as I can to find the best techniques and to find what worked best for big gainers. In the past I think I was trying to do some extreme routines to speed my way through the process with no luck.

Consistency is the key to gaining I believe for myself at least. So my goal is to find a routine that works for me personally and stick with it while listening to my PI’s. I’ve tried the newbie routine twice, once after a break, and the only gains I received were my initial length gains from manual stretches. Jelqing has never been my friend, I have a turkey neck to prove it, and I get bad discoloration from it even staying below 70% erect. Not that Jelqing doesn’t work, it just hasn’t worked for me regardless of time count or how erect I am.

I’m a fan of pumping but used to pump at higher pressures against the advice of others. So I plan to keep pumping in my routine but at a lower pressure and for shorter durations. I’ve been researching hanging to gain some length but am going to stick with manual stretches until I either stop gaining or don’t gain at all. I attribute a .25” Of base girth from clamping but will not be clamping until I’ve reached a length I’m happy with. My main goal before was to target girth and take any length that came, but I personally would like more length, but the wife and pretty much any women I’ve spoken to say girth is what they prefer. So I’m going after length now as a vanity thing and a gift to myself.

Since I’m older I also have more money to devote to frivolous activities like this and have purchased some tools I wish I had when I was younger. First off I have four pumps now that are all quick disconnect 1.5”, 1.75”, 2”, 2.5”. The 1.5” was purchased to help stretch length wise but I can’t enter erect at all. The 1.75” is my pump of choice where as years ago all I had was a 2”. I’ve also purchased a VAC ADS and love it! I also made a pipe repair hanger but haven’t used it yet. I’ve also made a pretty cool rice pad for warming up ( think a flat pad filled with rice and kinda quilted into pockets so it’s providing consistent and even heat) but may buy a heating pad or a lamp.

The goal of this thread is to use this as a weekly log, I’d do a daily log but that seems ridiculous to take up that amount of space. I’m doing a separate personal log to keep track of every tiny detail daily to help keep me consistent.

My routine is currently as follows after a little adjustment do to PI’s. I do my main routine after I work out my body, not sure if it helps but I’ve read theories.

Warm up 5 minutes
Stretch up down right left and straight out holding each 30 seconds and warming up while massaging in between each direction.

Warm up again

Pump in 1.75” cylinder for 10 minutes at 5-8hg while keeping heat applied to the cylinder. I try to stay as erect as I can because I feel more stretched. In the last thirty seconds of my session in the pump I’ll go up to 10hg to get a little more of a stretch.

Warm up again and massage the heat in for five minutes

Do another 10 minute pump session sane as above

Warm down for five minutes as before

Put on a Vac ADS for 1-3 hours. If I could wear it longer I would!

Through the day I’ll do piss pulls. Before I go to bed I do some more manual stretches after I get out of the shower.

So far my flaccid length has been beyond great for myself and it last all day. My wife said it was very noticeable before I went to work one day! I’ve noticed more and stronger nocturnal erections as well. So I’m trying very hard to listen to what my unit is telling me.

I had Jelqing as part of the routine after I stretched and before I pumped but after Jelqing I had terrible bruising and red spots each session before the pump. I think pumping only exasperated the issue. I also had that problem before and besides the turkey neck was the main reason I ditched them. I know people swear by them but the fact remains that everyone is different and we all gain or don’t gain differently as well.

I’ve been doing four to five on and two off depending on what my EQ is like. My wife knows about PE but I mainly like to do it while she is at work so I have full concentration and can spend our days off together. I’m trying to make every session count and not go through the motions.

As I write this I’ve consistently been doing this almost a month! I’ll do a follow up post below with exactly what I’ve done and when as well as why. I’m determined to focus and put in the work to gain as much as I’m able. I’ve always known PE would be a life long thing for me anyway so I’m in no rush this time( well that’s kinda a lie)!

My routine and consistency so far!

Btw after 2-10 minute sessions I’m packing a 1.75” cylinder and hitting 7.25” BP. Very light almost not even noticeable edema under the glans. It makes it so tempting to up the sets but I’m holding off!

11-30-18
Warm up
stretched
Warm up
3 15 minute sets pumping with heat
Warm down

12-1-18
Warm up
stretched
Warm up
3-15 minute sets pumping with heat
Warm up

12-2-18
Warm up
stretched
Warm up
3-15 minute sets pumping with heat
Warm up

12-3-18
Warm up
stretched
Warm up
3-15 minute sets pumping with heat
Warm up

12-4-18
Warm up
3-15 minute sets pumping with heat
Warm up ( not sure why I didn’t stretch)

12-5-18
Warm up
stretched
Warm up
Jelqued for 5 minutes
Warm up

12-6-18
Warm up
3-15 minute sets pumping with heat
Warm up
Started to see negative PI’s with three 15 minute set and decided to lower both.

12-7-18 Rest day piss pulls

12-8-18 Rest day piss pulls

12-9-18
Honestly don’t know because I forgot to log

12-10-18
Warm up
stretched
Warm up
2-10 minute sets pumping with heat got to 7.25” BP in tube!
Warm up

12-11-18
Warm up
stretched
Warm up
2-10 minute sets pumping with heat
Warm up
Again hitting 7.25”

12-12-18
Warm up
stretched
Warm up
1-10 minute pumping set with heat
Warm up
Vac ADS 3 hrs After session (2 1.5 hr durations)

12-13-18 Rest day piss pulls

12-14-18 Rest day piss pulls

12-15-18
Vac ADS 3 hrs ( was busy that day unfortunately and tried to make the best of it!)
Piss pulls

12-16-18
Warm up
Stretched
Warm up
5 minutes Jelq
Warm up
1-10 minute pump with heat and jelqed in between sets
Warm up
Vac ADS 3 hrs after session

12-17-18
Warm up
Stretched
Warm up
5 minutes Jelqing
Warm up
2-10 minute pumping sets with heat and jelqed between sets
Warm up
Vac ADS 1.5 hrs After session
Starting to notice more discoloration since adding jelqs

12-18-18
Warm up
Stretched
Warm up
5 minutes Jelqing
Warm up
2-10 minute sets pumping with heat and jelqed between sets
Warm up
Vac ADS 1.5 hrs after session
Still noticed discoloration after session from Jelqing

Stretched before bed for a few minutes

12-19-18
Warm up
Stretched
Warm up
5 minutes Jelqing
1-10 minute session pumping with heat
Warm up
Jelqing is giving me very bad discoloration so I’m stopping it. I only started having bad red spots and discoloration after adding the Jelqing, pumping longer sets and with more sets didn’t add discoloration either, only edema.
Vac ADS 3hrs after session

Stretched before beds for five minutes

12-20-18
Rest day save some piss pulls and light stretching.


Start 2008-NBPEL:6” EGMS:5”

—————Long break————

11-2018-BPEL:6.75” NBPEL:6.25” EGMS:5” EBG” 5.5” BPFSL: 7 1/8”


Last edited by erissoup : 12-20-2018 at . Reason: Putting possibly relevant info

Could a moderator please move this thread to the regular progress reports please? I didn’t realize pictures were a must for this particular forum. That’s totally my bad and I’d really appreciate it!


Start 2008-NBPEL:6” EGMS:5”

—————Long break————

11-2018-BPEL:6.75” NBPEL:6.25” EGMS:5” EBG” 5.5” BPFSL: 7 1/8”

12-21-18
Worked out prior to PE. Not sure it matters but I’ve heard theories that’s it could be beneficial.
Warmed up
Stretched
Warmed up
2-10 minute sets pumping with heat
Warmed up
Vac ADS 1.5 hrs after session.
Still noticed discoloration without Jelqing, maybe it’s pumping regularly that is causing it? Too high of pressure? I’ll start Jelqing for 10 minutes instead.

Did 2nd stretching session before bed.

12-22-18
Worked out prior to PE
Warmed up
Stretched for 5 minutes
Warmed up
Jelqed for 10 minutes
Warmed up
1-10 minute pump with heat.
Warmed up
Vac ADS for 30 minutes after session

I’ve found Jelqing maybe wasn’t my discoloration problem( though it’s certainly my turkey neck problem) but cycling to too high of pressure must be causing the discoloration.

Did a second stretching session before bed along with 2 minutes of Jelqing and a 10 minute pump session.

12-23-18

Worked out prior to PE session
Warmed up
Stretched for 5 minutes
Warmed up
Jelqed for 10 minutes
Warmed up
2-10 minute pumping sets with heat at 5hg
Warmed up
Vac ADS for 1 hr after session

Did 2-15 minute pumping sets at lunch at 4hg

Stretched and did 1-30 minute pumping session with heat at low hg. Then did 1-25 minute pump session. I noticed once the tube is packed I can cycle to higher pressures and get more stretch length wise without discoloration or discomfort. I was careful to watch for blisters since more pressure was on the glans but got up to 7.5” BPEL inside the cylinder. I did that session before bed.

12-24-18

Rest day no PE

12-25-18

Worked out prior to PE
Warmed up
Stretched for 5 minutes
Warmed up
Jelqed for 5 minutes
Warmed up
1-10 minute pumping session with heat
Warmed up

I received a phone call during my pump session and learned a valuable lesson. Since I was distracted and couldn’t maintain a good erection in the cylinder I didn’t cycle enough fresh blood and I ended up with bruising and discoloration. I decided not to do another session obviously. So for myself trying to keep a solid erection while pumping is a necessity. I did some random piss pulls throughout the day.

12-26-18

Warmed up
Stretched for 5 minutes
Warmed up
That’s all I had time to do that day unfortunately.

12-27-18

Rest day no PE at all. Super hard erections and good flaccid! Edged for thirty minutes.

So I am almost certain manual stretches are not very effective for me. I think I suffer from Dorsal thickening. I have all the signs of it. I’m interested in hanging but am going to stick to this routine a while. I’ve also noticed some people have had a lot of success with gaining length via pumping. I feel like it’s possible for me to but think adding a couple sessions through the day may be beneficial. Maybe one in the morning and one before bed. As long as I pay attention to my PI’s I think I’m good. Been learning and paying way more attention this time around than ever before. Also I’ve been more consistent than ever before.

As I said I’m interested in hanging for length but am going to hold out a few months. Besides I think my wife would think that is more dangerous that pumping. I guess it would look more dangerous from the outside looking in, even though both can be disastrous if used improperly.

Another couple things I’ve learned, high pressure will almost certainly lead to discoloration and not gains. Lower pressure is safer! I was always against it before because I didn’t notice much at such a low HG. But before I wasn’t as diligent as I am now, and more frequentl pumping at high pressure is dangerous. I also found that palmers cocoa butter is the best thing for my skin for a pumping lube. My unit responds well to it whilst pumping. Jelqing I still use a vasaline product.


Start 2008-NBPEL:6” EGMS:5”

—————Long break————

11-2018-BPEL:6.75” NBPEL:6.25” EGMS:5” EBG” 5.5” BPFSL: 7 1/8”

Another thing that I think is helping me stay on a pretty consistent routine is the fact that I’ve not let myself become a slave to the ruler this time around! I would always measure more often than I should have and I think subconsciously I would get discouraged by not seeing any gains. I’ve done great fighting the urge to not measure my unit this time. I measured the week I started back to make sure I still retained the gains I had made before so I knew I was starting from where I left off.

I think the ruler kills more gains before they start for people than it does confirming them.

Also I tried stretching while I was in the shower before my routine today and I think I’m going to stick to that! I not only got a pre warm up but I think it helped me achieve a better stretch when I did my actual routine!


Start 2008-NBPEL:6” EGMS:5”

—————Long break————

11-2018-BPEL:6.75” NBPEL:6.25” EGMS:5” EBG” 5.5” BPFSL: 7 1/8”

12-28-18

Warm up
Stretched 5 minutes
Warm up
Jelqed 10 minutes
Warm up
2-10 minute pumping sets with heat
Warm up
Vac ADS 2.5 hrs after session

Stretched before bed

12-29-18

Worked out prior to PE
Took a shower and stretched for 10 minutes in the shower

Warm up
Stretched 5 minutes
Warm up
Jelqed 10 minutes
Warm up
3-10 minute pumping sets with heat
Warm up
Vac ADS 2.5 hrs after session

1-15 minute pump at lunch
Vac ADS for 2.5 hrs

1-15 minute pump before bed

Definitely worked it too hard that day!

12-30-18

Worked out prior to PE
Stretched for 5 minutes in the shower

Warm up
Stretched 5 minutes
Warm up
Jelqed 10 minutes
Warm up
2-10 minute pumping sets with heat
Warm up
Vac ADS 30 minutes after session

1-10 minute pump at lunch

Definitely trying to do too much and cut back!

12-31-18

Rest day much needed!

1-1-19
My routine gets shook up for a few days and I end up having to do my PE at night instead of the morning.

Stretched 5 minutes in the shower.

Warm up
Stretched 5 minutes
Warm up
Jelqed 10 minutes
Warm up
2-10 minute pumping sets with heat
Warm up
Vac ADS 1 hr after session

1-2-19

Rest day due to scheduling conflict and did some piss pulls throughout the day.

1-3-19

Stretched for 5 minutes in the shower.

Warm up
Stretched 5 minutes
Warm up
1-15 minute pumping set with heat
Warm up

One note I’d like to make is that I really feel like the only gains I’m making are flaccid. I’m getting a more consistent and better flaccid hang but am almost certain there is no difference in my erect gains. But the flaccid hang itself is worth continuing. I’m considering ditching the stretching and doing 3-4 pumping sets. I’ll continue to do piss pulls and shower stretches even though I feel like length gains for me may only come through hanging but doubt I’ll be willing to put in such long periods to it.


Start 2008-NBPEL:6” EGMS:5”

—————Long break————

11-2018-BPEL:6.75” NBPEL:6.25” EGMS:5” EBG” 5.5” BPFSL: 7 1/8”

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