Buckfever's Maintenance, Pumping and EQ exploration journal

Starting a new thread. I am going to incorporate a modicum of stretching to maintain stretched length gains and as a a preventative measure to counteract the age related loss of length. The key to that will be to find the level at which EQ is unaffected or perhaps even enhanced as I have some experiences that low tension traction may provide some benefit.

Also I want to explore pumping on several fronts. Does it contribute to length? What is the effect on EQ? There is evidence here that there is an effect and there are publications that show clinical support both these notions.

I’ll chime in that I am seeing both BPEL and IPL length gains from pumping and 30 second manual stretches during toilet breaks.

So some things already.
So pumping the pressure to no more than 4.5HG and checking every 2 minutes.
Up to 22 minutes pretty much no adverse effects.
24 minutes donut
26 minutes donut that persists and red dots on portion of the shaft that is not packed.
30 minutes pronounced edema that persists as well as pronounced persistent red dots.

These effects in general seem to be diminishing with more sessions.

After the 30 minute session the erection persisted and stimulating arousal created an erection the likes of which I’ve never seen. Incomprehensible to me that that would fit into anything.

Using traction prior to the pumping did not increase the length that was achieved in the tube. I’m figuring that whatever length has been achieved from a stretching campaign is already available for length in the tube.

Whether the stretch that is provided by the pump is sufficient for maintenance of length is unknown to me.

Incremental pumping.
This was interesting. Today at the end of the session ~ 25 minutes I released the pressure completely and left it released for some time. In my case the seal at the base holds because the base girth is a little too big for the 2” pump. At that point I pumped back up and noticed that more length was immediately gained in the tube, than what had been achieved in the 25 minute session. My perception is that the base girth had been clogging the tube but with the incremental pumping more of the shaft was able to slide into the tube. Of this I’m not precisely sure, but that the incremental pumping did allow greater length in the tube is for sure. And it’s something I plan to explore.

The amount of the shaft that is now packing the tube is continuously increasing. From ~2-3/8” to now 3-1/8+ so an appreciable amount.

The Total man ir heat pad is just big enough for the 2” tube not sure how it would work on the next increment. I am planning a 2-1/8” tube at some point because I imagine packing the tube soon and because I think that the base girth is just too much for the 2” tube and prohibiting the shaft from fully entering the tube. Might need something to fasten the total man pad on a larger tube, probably velcro.

Not sure about the effect of heat with the pump. While there is nice warmth from the pad in conjunction with the pump, it does not seem to be anywhere near what would be necessary to be therapeutic. Maybe in the case of those doing extra long sessions?

I would say any heat is an improvement but you would be correct in that it won’t be getting near the temps we want. Maybe be look at one of the bigger pads that heat up to 50 C plus? They could be useful for this use case.

Something to think about for sure.

One other thing I forgot. I observed incremental gains of length in the tube past the 20 minute mark for sure. gprent has reported that 30 minutes should be the goal as additional length gains in the tube are not forthcoming past that.

Maybe it’s an individual thing to determine. But I remember reading that titleist would look to small incremental length gains in the tube. So it would seem that should be a measure to optimize

Lot of good information here to develop a framework.

10/3/2022

5 minutes @ 4.5hg;30 seconds @ 0hg X 5sets

I pump up to 4.5 hg and repump when it falls below 4hg.

Findings:

Maybe a little more length in the tube, however did not pack as much. I forgot to use the heat from the beginning though. Most significant, no donut and no edema. There were red dots on the portion that was not packed.

I’ll repeat today using heat from the start. If the red dots persist I’ll drop it to 4 sets.

I need to get a 2-1/8 tube as the base is restrictive but I need to pack this one yet.

Not sure about continuous pressure versus cycling but the elimination of donut/edema seems favorable?

10/5/2022

5 minutes @ 4.5hg;30 seconds @ 0hg X 5sets

Pump up to 4.5 hg and repump when it falls below 4hg.

Total man heat pad on high for the duration.

Findings:

The red dots persisted a bit yesterday so I skipped.

With the heat length in the tube about the same, but it did pack more of the tube.

One of the things that I am going to do is just do pumping here for a while maybe 6 weeks and then come back to the extending and see if stretched length was maintained with the pump. That would be useful info for me in terms of developing a maintenance protocol.

Okay well got to put this on hold, work travel will make this prohibitive for the next 6-7+ weeks. Be a good idea to take a few months completely off anyway.

Once again releasing the pressure every 5 minutes and still doing 5 sets, eliminated the donut and the edema, however the red dots persisted to the following day. The red dots only form on the portion of the shaft that is not packed. Probably need to knock it down to 4 sets for a while till there is better conditioning. Especially now when my schedule will very much limit the amount of work that can be done. I’ll do what I can when I can to maintain some conditioning.

And only going to do the pump here as I think the stretching campaign was well long enough and it would be good to give those fibers a good long period of deconditioning, especially if we’re going to do one last campaign, I want a full 240 days with no stretching what so ever, beyond what the pump provides.

I noticed the same thing. I was pumping without shimming the tube for a while, and the spots would form anywhere that wasn’t packed. Put the shim back in, and no spots. The surprising thing is that I get better expansion of the tunica this way.

I also started dropping the pressure to .5” for the breaks instead of jelqing. Just enough to hold the girth expansion, and I milk the tube in a way that it acts like a peristaltic pump against the dorsal veins to get fresh blood in there. Seems to work a little bit better, and its definitely less hands-on than pulling out, jelqing, going back in, and reestablishing a good seal.

Thanks for the feedback!

Have you noticed any difference in girth expansion when packed vs in the bigger tube?

I have not acquired the bigger tube yet. I’m thinking to get back to this in December, just too buried right now. But that it an interesting question for sure. I have this question in my head about whether edema is a negative expansion input.