Ehlolol's progress

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No, I don’t. But I have taken initial measurements and on pegym I have reserved post #2 for after my journey. Once I finish, I will take final pictures, create a side by side and post it — most likely.
The problem is, I do not know when that will be. The goal in my signature says 9x6.. At this point though, I am not even sure if that should be my BPEL goal or NBPEL.. I am reaaallly greedy =/
Anyway.

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After almost a year of lay off, I am back!
A quick summary of my PE history:
3 months of conditioning via JP90, ~1” gains (EQ! + newbie gains)
2-3 months jelq free routine, a bit of gains here
~2 months hanging, a bit of gains there
then sporadic, inconsistent routines, with bits of gains here and there,
netting my max size 8.1” BPEL, which I HAVE LOST :(

I am not updating my signature, I will leave it as is, because lost size can be regained quickly and in fact I am very close if not already regained it.
I lost roughly ~0.5”, two months ago, I was at 19cm (7.5”), now (actually measured ~2 weeks ago) I am at 19.8cm (7.8”). It might have been mostly EQ loss. I am not sure.

I have restarted my efforts 2 months ago.
I did 5 weeks of JP90, 4 weeks of “extending” which started at week 3 of JP90, and on 27th July I started hanging..

I slowly but surely came back to hanging. Why? Because midway through I analyzed my old log, checked out my gains and correlated them to the routines (via dates). And it seems I gained the best with hanging, even though I just did short spourts of hanging (~2 months at a time).
So I picked it up again.

I gained the best between 7 and 12.5 lbs, but right now, I am at 5 lbs (2.25 kg) and am progressing 1.27 lbs (0.5 kg weight plate) per 6 weeks.
Actually, I devised a systematic approach, a routine if you will, which I will adhere to.. it incorporates a few principals I picked up here and there:
— Stress relaxation
— Progressive overload (tied with #1)
— Continuous heat
— 48h rest —> 5on 2off

My routine is a split session, I do this twice a day:
1.) 10m rice sock warm up
2.) 1x 1h of 1.25kg hanging, or rather “extending”
— progressive overload: low load, exhausting elasticity to ease entering plastic deformation/micro-failure region
3.) 5-10x 20s tension stretches: start out with 0 force, increase to mid/high force towards 20s mark
— progressive overload: avg. load, overloading over time (20s)
4.) 3x 20m hanging of weight:
— progressive overload: high load
— weight progression:
—— set 1: 2.25kg
—— set 2: 2.5kg
—— set 3: 2.75kg

So when I am at weight 2.25 kg (5lbs), it actually means I am between 2.25 and 2.75 kg (5 - 6lbs).
Every 6 weeks or so, I progress +0.5kg, so in 6 weeks, I would be at 2.75kg, which would be 2.75 - 3.25kg.
My strategy is to stay at low weight for AS LONG AS possible.

Notes:
- I use rice sock throughout all sets, except the last set of hanging, which is “cool down”
- between sets, when reheating rice sock in microwave for ~2m, I do JAI stretches to keep the penis from returning to its elastic region

Detail from my old log:
When I gained the best from hanging, I only did 3 sets of 15m once a day. So I am not sure if I should mimic exactly that.
Right now, I am planning on doing 6 sets of 20m. I remember why I had to drop it down to 15m.
It was because of discolorization at the high weight. I could not manage 20m, it was too severe for my own taste.
I don’t know if that will happen again at those levels, it all depends on techniques and tools… I will see.
If all fails, I may drop it down to 15m sets and if gains are not as good, I might reduce it down to 3 sets / day.
Time will tell.
Edit:
Actually it seems that 40% of the time I did 8 sets of 15m then the latter 60% I lowered it to 3 sets of 15m. I am not quite sure what to do, I will have to come back to this issue once I reach that weight!
/Edit

Kind regards

Upon further research & thought, I will also work a weekly IPR style protocol.
The inflammation (I) part will be the first two days, the proliferation (P) part will be the next 2.5 days, and re-modelling (R) will be the last 2.5 days.
It would look something like this:

Monday: I (1h extending, 10 tension stretches, 3 sets hanging) x2 (AM/PM)
Tuesday: I (1h extending, 10 tension stretches, 3 sets hanging)
Wednesday: P (3h extending, 5 tension stretches, -)
Thursday: P (3h extending, 5 tension stretches, -)
Friday: P / R (1h extending, -, -)
Saturday: R (-, -, -)
Sunday: R (-, -, -)

I hate that I can’t edit old posts on this forum; every time I adjust something in my routine, I need to make another post, which seems like I am spamming my own journal =/ I’d rather keep it clean & clutter free, anyway.

Today I had my first session and I must say, I certainly cant do a split session. Even though I am just using the same weight and instead of doing 6 sets, only doing 3 sets, this is WAY more fatiguing.
I think the extender + light tension stretches before hanging are doing it!

So here are the adjustments to my previous comment:
Monday: no split session —> not twice, just once
Wednesday: just like Tuesday
Thursday: 4h of extending (split session: 2 sets of 1h), NO tension stretches
Friday: 2 sets of 1h extending

After my first session today, I also decided to keep track of “strain” (current BPFSL divided by pre-workout BPFSL) at various points in the routine (pre workout, post 1h extending, post tension stretches, post set #1, #2 and #3 of hanging). My goal is to get it to between 2-4%, preferably 2.5+%
That’s all there is… lets see how this goes!

Alright, so today I took “strain” measurements…
Problem is, I am not sure whether my initial BPFSL measurement is my actual max BPFSL.
Because I am unsure of my BPFSL baseline, these numbers may mean nothing.
I recall that I may be able to read a higher BPFSL measurement when I get an erection and let it subside prior to measuring. I think thats how my body generally works, but I am not 100% sure.
I’ll need to first make sure of my max BPFSL in order to be able to accurately derive strain numbers..
So much uncertainty right now =(

Anyway, here they are…:
Elastic #1 (post 1h extending at 1.25kg, at every 10m, a 10s break) = 1.53%
Elastic #2 (post 10x 20s tension stretches) = 2.55%
Creep #1 (post 1st set of 20m hanging at 2.25kg) = 2.55%
Creep #2 (post 2nd set of 20m hanging at 2.5kg) = 2.55%
Creep #3 (post 3rd set of 20m hanging at 2.75kg) = 2.55%

As you can see, extending and manual stretching did yield some strain, whereas hanging did nothing.
There can be only two reasons for it:
1.) Either my current weight is too low to cause any temporary “creep”
2.) Or I am not heating efficiently enough (kinda doubt it because of other measurements… and because my dick radiating heat literally)
3.) Or 3 sets of hanging are not enough, perhaps I need 6
4.) I reached my true max BPFSL after the 10 tension stretches and actually have caused 0 strain today

My best guess right now is #4.
If thats not it, then it must be #1.
To correct issue #1, I will obv. need to move up in weight, right now I am only between 5-6 lbs, so it makes sense I am not causing any “creep” (assuming my BPFSL baseline is correct).
But I don’t wanna hang higher weights without my VAC cup, which still has not arrived.

Anyway, I will continue this week without changing anything. If I measure different/higher BPFSL values next week monday, I will assuming it is effective as it is now and stick with it for a while.
If not, my first step will be determining baseline for BPFSL.
If my VAC cup still has not arrived by then, I will experiment with adding tension stretches between hanging sets and afterwards.

Basically, my routine will be driven by these measurements from now on, once I make sure they are accurate / legit…
I think these numbers will become more stable over time and be telling a real story, which I then can capitalize on.

Kind regards

On second thought regarding the initial BPFSL measurement, it hit me — it does not matter whether its my absolute max or not.
Why?
Because every time I measure, I will be measuring the same way. So therefore, it will be consistent, I won’t need to warm up / get an erection to try to measure my max BPFSL pre-workout.

Absolute numbers are not required if relative numbers can also be captured consistently!
The difference between the relative numbers from one day to another, one week to another, etc. - can be used to gauge the effectiveness of my routine.

Sigh, sometimes I feel like an idiot for not realizing these basic things sooner.

Here is a better conclusion to my “strain” measurements:
They do not matter because they are the first measurements.
They will become important once I have more measurements, which I can compare them with and observe relative change.

Lets just say that these initial measurements (regardless of max initial BPFSL or not), will serve as the baseline.
Tomorrow I will do the very same - measure initial BPFSL cold, no prior erection or workout, just like today.

Yesterday I used an IR lamp for the first time…
Its a 100 watt one from Beurer (I think a german company is selling them, got it from Amazon).

I would not be reporting it if I did not observe a few strange things… namely two things:
1.) While compared to the rice sock, its not as hot, I noticed that after 10 minutes of heating that the inside of my penis was way warmer and it stayed warm for a long period of time
2.) Weird sensations inside the penis; no idea how to describe it

And today morning, when I woke up, my penis was kinda hot!

Optimally I wanna use heat throughout, but I didn’t know how to properly set it up yesterday, I just used it for warmup.
I had to hold it and shine it on my dick… need to figure something out.
Also I am trying to block the light from getting into my eyes, i try to kinda look away, which is hard, when you are sitting infront of the PC… can’t and don’t wanna stare at the wall!

Oh btw… SPS (static progressive stretching) exercise in tandem with 3 sets of hanging proved itself to be too much - I get negative PIs and simply have too much fatigue the next day, EQ is suffering etc.
So, I just hang 1 set! Not sure if that is enough, might still be too much, I’ll see.

Oh and btw., I reduced the duration in one sitting:
1h SPS split into 2x 30m of SPS (increasing tension every 5m)
and instead of 20m of hanging, I hang 15m now.

I am trying to avoid blood circulation problems as best as I can!

So basically, right now my routine is:
10 warm up -> 30m SPS -> 10m warm up -> 30m SPS -> 10m warmup -> 15m hanging

If I find a way to mount the IR lamp somewhere so I can free my hands, I will be able to use heat throughout - then I will only need a 10m warm up at the beginning.

Other than that, I am doing 1 on 1 off - Monday, Wednesday and Friday and take the weekends off.
But I am also playing with the idea of doing 2on1off + 2on2off… Not quite sure yet and it does collide a bit with the IPR protocol… Ill probably stick with the 1on 1off.

Yesterday I had bad strain measurements. The first strain measurement was ok (the max measurement I achieved the other day) but the other measurements were lower…
I’ll simply attribute that to bad heating!

Last monday (last session) I overdid it a bit, had white spots forming on the glans due to pressure built up (increasing the tension in the static stretcher) - and I did not back off..
Luckily, no lasting injuries, but I am taking a decon week off.

I think this was due to the attachment technique I use, which is two hex keys wrapped into the ace wrapping around my shaft acting as an anchor for the shoelace..
Increasing the tension caused the front bits to squish inside into the dick/shaft which caused greater & more focused tension/pressure built up towards the glans.

Anyway, my malemax pro leather attachment piece just arrived, hope that will be more functional than what I am currently using.
Have not tested it out yet, my next session will be Wednesday… Functionally speaking, its the same attachment technique - noose style attachment but the noose is so broad that the force is not focused on a ring around the shaft but a much wider area, making it less dangerous or restrictive… works well with 15m sets!

I am also dropping the SPS stretching due to the reason that I don’t know how much pressure or force I am applying towards the end of it, at the latter tension increments.
Otherwise, it is an excellent method and the temporary length I achieve in the device is ridiculous, its almost 1cm above my max BPFSL measurement.

However, this does not mean I am dropping my BPFSL strain based approach. I am still going to try to achieve a 2-4% strain each session.

This is what I plan right now:
3 sets of:
2x 50 side to side (s2s) stretches
15 min of hanging

So thats a total of 300 s2s and 45m of hanging. Weights right now are 2.25, 2.5 and 2.75 kg or ~5, 5.5 and ~6 lbs.
My ultimate weight goal is to be between 8-10 lbs, I will not increase beyond that point. I may advance to those weights in 2-3 weeks once I resume.

Before every set, 5-10 min of IR lamp heating.. thats about it, 3 times a week, mon, wed, fri…

PS: I have been PEing since June 11 this year again, so thats been about 2.5 months. The decon was due! I will probably implement a 6 weeks on 1 off approach, I do no longer subscribe to the no-off or no-rest approach, which I was tending to believe due to hanging & all the mantras that go with it. I think thats bullshit at this point!
Fatigue does not just accumulate within a session, but also throughout sessions…
You may feel fine for 3 weeks straight, but then snap the next day… thats how I feel & understand it, judging from my experience!

PPS: Regarding the malemax pro attachment leather hanger - I may loop a shoelace around the front upper bit and the bottom metal attachment bit in order to even out the pull.
May concern right now is that the pull will twist my penis upwards, because its only on the underside. I may be wrong, I will see. If this is the case, I’ll have to make these adjustments.
I will report on this issue!

Thanks for reading!

Another little update…

So since I recently got a thermometer I wanted to check out how well I was warming up.
I felt the IR lamp was making it pretty hot, so I took a measurement.
37-38° barely above normal body temperature :(

First I did not believe that it only heated my skin to internal body temperature, so I sandwiched the device between my shaft just so I could get a better reading - and the same.
I am ditching the IR lamp..

Its back to old school - cup filled with very HOT water. I measured it to get a feel for how hot 42-45° is and I must say its barely hot for my fingers and almost not noticeable for my penis.
I say almost because I only notice the temperature when I dunk it in, like in that second, but then I do not feel it anymore, it does not burn me, nothing.
But when I pull it out and touch it, its pretty hot.
Anyway, thats what I am gonna do. With this method, I cant be bothered to stay warmed up thoughout, its such a hassle. I will only initially warm up 10m and that’s about it.

Now onto item #2 on my reportlist: the hanger is amazing, the stress distribution is way better than what I had.
The only problem it has is that it twists my penis because it only pulls or allows attachment from one side (the underside- so my penis is twisted upwards).
I almost did not notice, but out of curiosity I checked a sideview while hanging..
I will tie a 2nd shoelace around its bottom attachment point and loop it around the shoelace above that tightens it. Then I am gonna use the 2nd shoelace as an attachment point,
which should balance the pull force 50-50 to top & bottom half, eliminating the twist. I did a quick try but that ended up digging into my glans and that was uncomfortable.
… gotto figure out somehting!
Btw I hang for 10 minute sets, not 15…

And lastly, I started a discolorization treatment… I am doing it kinda half heartedly, I am not desperate right now.
What I am doing is basically this: I am applying a vitamin C “serum” (2 drops, well today, for my first try, I used 4 drops along my shaft, massaging that in).
I am treating it like a PE regime, not expecting results overnight, gonna give it a try for roughly 2-3 months to see.
The serum additionally has hyaluronic acid and vitamin E and judging by the discolorization treatment videos on youtube, these are they key ingredients required to help with it.
Since a bottle is relatively cheap (60ml or 2,11 fl.oz. roughly 14 bucks), I don’t mind even if it turns out a waste of time or money!
I am not sure on the frequency though, initially I though I only do it post-PE session but then I said to myself, why? Its not like the body needs rest for skin care…
So I am planning on doing it daily, every day for the next 2-3 months, 2 drops/day massage in while erect.
Main target is top side of shaft, which is the place where my discolorization is, which btw. happened because I pulled too hard on a bundled stretch!

PS/Edit: On second though in regards to my point in my update, if it was me who designed this leather PE attachment device, I would have put those on the sides, one on the left and one on the right.
Not just one on the bottom… I wish I had the skills to craft that. Perhaps I can come up with something using old cloth and cutting it to proper shape etc… actually I should be able to, it cant be that hard. Hmmm… I’ll see, I will report on it if I decide to do that!

How long did it take you to see those gains?

Still going strong!

Not gonna keep using excuses why I did not update my journal. In fact, this is the status quo from now on. Lets just all accept that I simply post sporadically! My inconsistency with my online journal does not reflect my PE consistency. I am very consistent!

Anyway, the reason I am posting right now is because I think I made a discovery recently… sadly, I am not certain.

Basically, I have gained a bit in a short amount of time (1 week) after changing one thing. I am not sure if these gains are because of the change I made or whether its just general gains (because of all the PE I have been doing for a couple of months again). Gains come in spurts, so I can not tell for sure.

But it feels like I figured something new out and in my mind, it makes A LOT OF SENSE.

So, I am going to try to explain. Whenever I stretched my penis, it felt like I was stretching my skin. My entire pubic area got lifted and pulled, completely tenting the base.
Whenever I jelqed, the same happened. I never noticed or paid attention to this.

So, last week I actually noticed it and then I changed it a little bit: I always bone press now regardless of what I do.
When I stretch, I use my resting hand to press that at the base. Sometimes I form an OK sign and press that to my fat pad at the base and then stretch with the other hand. It kinda turns into a fulcrum type of stretch, thumb & index finger at the base forming the fulcrum.
When I jelq, I do the same, pressing the other hand at the base so that the skin does not move.
In fact, one jelq stroke seems to have developed into 2 phases:
1. grab at the base with the hand that is going to do the stroke
2. with the other hand, dig below and then slide the shaft down the base as hard as possible (bone pressing to fat pad) and then start the jelq stroke with the other hand, doing it really slowly.

i call it the “BP jelq” or “bone pressed jelq”!

I noticed one thing. Jelqing like this, you are not sliding your shaft skin over your internal structures, but rather, you are working the internal structures directly.
Internal pressure happens much earlier during a jelq stroke, on the shaft - and the blood you push upwards up the pressure til the end of the jelq; the pressure is so high that I actually have to do the jelq REALLY slowly, otherwise I am going to hurt myself, its like a 6th sense, I can feel it (perhaps its just my PE experience, afterall, these are the benefits you have as a veteran — you know your own body).
When I jelq, I am actually targeting the inside and am moving and expanding my penis from within.
Here is what I think: If I don’t do this, I am working my shaft skin, basically, whenever I jelq or stretch.
The applied forces are dispersed over a very large surface area (base tenting up), the exercise’s effectiveness gets reduced.
But once I counteract the tenting, I can isolate the inside of the shaft and the exercise actually starts targeting it.

I think jelqing was effective in the beginning because my shaft skin was not long / loose.
So I was naturally working the internal structures even though I did not pay attention to skin drag; skin drag was impossible because I had no loose skin to begin with.
I can clearly remember how that jelqing worked like magic the very first 2 months of PE and then simply stopped working all together.
This may explain it… my skin got loose and I dropped below the threshold of pressure that was required for the jelq to be effective. After the 2 months, I was no longer jelqing properly, but dragging my skin since the 2 months of jelqing also made my skin loose…
Now that I have corrected this mistake (AFTER YEARS, LOL), I am experience the same growth. I mean its too soon to tell, I will report back after additional 3 weeks, just so that I have a whole month to see if its really because of it. I have high hopes!

Edit / PS:
This is my current routine:
- 30s of stretching towards: R, R, L, L, U, U, D, D
- 30m of “BP-jelqing” with olive oil

(just recently figured out that olive oil is king!!)

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@Goal7.5x6 are you kidding me? do your due diligence and read my journal. i wont respond to lazy bums