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Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
There is danger with noose extenders as well. But, multiplied with a hangar.

4200 grams with very strong springs is 9.25 pounds. Most systems are still under 3000 grams. My own extender only had 2100 grams max tension.

Or you could hang 15lbs or more. Which exceeds any safe amount of pressure on the base of glans and dorsal nerve for most men. Additionally hangars can move from side to side and away. Extenders are stationary.


Thanks for the clarification.
So keeping the weight below 3000 grams and preventing it from moving would be “safe”?
I use an 8mm rubber hanger and hang 2.500 grams for 1 hour. Am I taking a big risk?
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Originally Posted by Nosferatu Zodd
Thanks for the clarification.
So keeping the weight below 3000 grams and preventing it from moving would be “safe”?
I use an 8mm rubber hanger and hang 2.500 grams for 1 hour. Am I taking a big risk?
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Not safe. Less risk. That is all. PE cannot be safe, like any exercise regiment overuse of a device or exercise is dangerous. I merely outlined what is typically dangerous no matter which way you use it.

Anything is dangerous. But, you should be at less risk with 2500 grams for an hour.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.

Hey forgains,

I would recommend that first and foremost you do not do any exercises for at least a month or so. I’m not super familiar with the procedure but I’ve read a little here and there and… Just give it time to heal and when it’s healed, give it some more.

Secondly, talk to your doctor(s). Get a urologist involved, probably. I’d have a hard time trusting dr. Elist, since he’s breaking his Hippocratic oath in my opinion.

Then I think your basic manual exercises are probably best, but if you’re hell bent on using equipment I’d recommend pumping. Since you’ll have scarring and other localized damage, a more distributed force should (I think, though I’m no expert) reduce the risk of focusing forces on the weakened areas. Plus there’s some actually solid looking research on mild negative gauge pressures enhancing healing.

Stay patient.

Best of luck to you!


February '16: 173 mm BPEL (6.81") 132 mm MEG (5.20")

November '18: 190 mm BPEL (7.48") 137 mm MEG (5.39")

Goal: A sustained 7.7" by 5.8" during intercourse

Originally Posted by forgains

I’m definitely going to consult the doc before doing anything and be patient in my approach. I do however feel that at this point in my journey Iā€™m more on my own, as his job is done (technically). I will use his advice and knowledge for recovery, but then it is ultimately up to me.

Maybe you should talk to a different urologist. This guy has too much to lose. If you suffer further damage from the exercises he’ll tell you to do which he will deny ever saying to do them if you get injured and therefore you, not he, messed you up, well get another opinion.

Originally Posted by Jimmybob55
Maybe you should talk to a different urologist. This guy has too much to lose. If you suffer further damage from the exercises he’ll tell you to do which he will deny ever saying to do them if you get injured and therefore you, not he, messed you up, well get another opinion.

Not to be a nay sayer, but the doctor knows his surgery best. He knows if the buchs fascia has been compromised or anything like that. He knows if extending is not advised because of the surgery. All I know is another patient wrote he was instructed to pump after implant removal and he succesfully regained almost all his lost length with pumping.

A second opinion cannot hurt. A second scan and look at the condition of the structures in his penis with an unbiased view is wise. An informed decision is always best.

Honestly, I would consider a third opinion just to compare common statements and assessment between the three and take lots of notes. But I’m a data junkie.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.

Originally Posted by HenrikL

Not to be a nay sayer, but the doctor knows his surgery best. He knows if the buchs fascia has been compromised or anything like that. He knows if extending is not advised because of the surgery. All I know is another patient wrote he was instructed to pump after implant removal and he succesfully regained almost all his lost length with pumping.

Not to be a nay sayer at all but the man is doing an unapproved medical procedure to make money and he should be ashamed of himself.

Originally Posted by Jimmybob55
Not to be a nay sayer at all but the man is doing an unapproved medical procedure to make money and he should be ashamed of himself.

Yeah it’s very sad. They could have had the well proven ligament cut instead. It’s a crazy procedure but at least it can be removed hopefully without any permanent change to the penis structure. But it’s actually surprising that it’s legal for a doctor to just come up with a procedure like that and start performing it, didn’t he also invent the implant himself?

Originally Posted by HenrikL
Yeah it’s very sad. They could have had the well proven ligament cut instead. It’s a crazy procedure but at least it can be removed hopefully without any permanent change to the penis structure. But it’s actually surprising that it’s legal for a doctor to just come up with a procedure like that and start performing it, didn’t he also invent the implant himself?

Of course he invented the implant. It’s part of his marketing but no one would share a license and liability with any other doctor for materials and implant. It’s like signing up for free litigation.

That’s why there were so many graft patents when cadaver tissue was the in surgery solution for enlargement.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.

Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
Of course he invented the implant. It’s part of his marketing but no one would share a license and liability with any other doctor for materials and implant. It’s like signing up for free litigation.

That’s why there were so many graft patents when cadaver tissue was the in surgery solution for enlargement.

scary stuff.

It’s not only not legal but unethical as well. How do they get away with it? Well in this case easy; most guys are embarrassed to go to an attorney and say you got screwed by a doctor during a penis lengthening procedure. Add to that all the paperwork that a patient signs which they think means that cannot sue the guy. You can sue anyone. All that paperwork is simply an informed consent form and a bunch of other crap that means nothing. Oh the implant piece itself? Well that’s made by his son in laws company.

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