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Update 7

BPEL: 16.5cm (6.5in) MSEG: 14.3cm (5.6in) BPFL:11cm (4.3in) MSFG: 12cm (4.7in)

Well.. I wasn’t particularly aiming to get girth but looks like my I gained 0.3cm in girth this week. Overall, I had an increase in girth of 1.3 cm or about 0.5 inches in basically 7 weeks. This is pretty great, I wasn’t even going for girth gains.

My MSFG still hasn’t changed since update 1 which is weird to me. You would think MSFG and MSEG would be positively correlated with each other.

I remembering reading somewhere on thunders that the more girth you have, the harder it is to get length gains. :/

Length gains are my main goal, as my objective is to hit 7.5 BPEL in about 2-3 years haha.. Maybe I should start considering a routine more length focused? I Don’t Know.

Can be 1-2 yrs if you’re consistent.


1/2/18 - BPFL 4.0", BPFSL 6.0", BPEL 5.8", EG 4.6" (Start)

31/7/18 - BPFL 4.3" (11cm), BPFSL 6.6" (16.8cm), BPEL 6.2" (15.8cm), EG 4.75" (12.05cm), NBP 5.39" (13.7cm)

I’ve read that red spots is common side effect of jelqing and PE in general. I haven’t experienced it until today, along with infrequent sharp pains.

Going to take a 2 day break instead of following the regular 2 days on 1 day off schedule to rest a bit more.

Update 8:
BPEL:16.8cm (6.6in) MSEG:14cm (5.5in) BPFL:12.7cm (5in) MSFG:12cm (4.7in)
After this week ill be 2 months into PE, I wasn’t expecting to have this much newbie gains. :D
I don’t think I’m showing any signs of plateauing as far as length goes, vets on this site say to stay on the same routine until you exhaust all gains then move on. So I’m gonna stay on newbie routine for a bit longer then I have to figure out what to do next. I’m currently thinking about buying an ADS, since its kinda the cheapest PE device you can get haha.

Just a side note, on my first post I said I do 5 min of manual stretching, I have slowly increased this time to 10 mins which is what the typical Newbie routine calls for. I put quite a lot of force during my stretches, and I’m normally a bit sore, which goes away after my 1 day rest, every 2 days of PE. Me putting too much force led to some negative PE signs occasionally like infrequent sharp pains after some sessions, this pain fades away quickly however.

Update 9:
BPEL: 6.7in(17cm) MSEG: 5.5in(14cm) BPFL: 5in(12.7cm) MSFG: 4.7in (12cm)

Been a bit busy this week, been about 11 days since my last update.
Uploaded a screenshot of the progress I made in the first 2 months on the Newbie Routine


Last edited by Extremity : 03-23-2018 at .

I don’t know if it makes a difference or not, but I started to use a velcro strap around the base of the shaft, throughout the day. Probably around 4-6 hours a day this past week. It provides enough compression to maintain the flaccid length for longer periods of time, and I feel no discomfort from doing it.

I’m toning down my measurements days to every 2 weeks instead of every week. Measuring every week was helpful at the start and helped me get into the habit of PE.

I bought an ADS for like 4 dollars off eBay, and it just arrived so I’m going to start using it on a regular basis. I’m not going to be leaving the house with it because it is too noticeable lol. The ADS I bought can probably be tweaked to serve as a low weight hanger, probably 2.5lbs max, but I won’t start hanging just yet. Apparently its better to stick to one method until you plateau, and then change your method.

Update 10: Been about 2 weeks since my last update

BPEL: 6.77in (17.2cm) MSEG: 5.5in (14cm) BPFL: 5.1in (12.9cm) MSFL: 4.88in (12.4cm)

I have been using my recently bought ADS for about 6-8 hours a day. I think this is the main reason my BPEL, BPFL and MSFL went up in this period. Especially MSFL since I was stuck at 12cm since update 2, after a few days of using ADS I am at 12.4cm consistently. I also have been following the Newbie Routine Schedule of 2 days on, 1 day off religiously, havent skipped a day yet :) I think I’m obsessed now lmao

I’m 4 months into PE, is it too early to start pumping?


Start: 1/22/2018 BPEL: 6.1in MSEG: 5.1in

Now: 8/02/2018 BPEL: 7.0in MSEG: 5.7in

Update 11: Been about 3 weeks

BPEL: 6.8in (17.3cm) MSEG: 5.5in (14cm) BPFL: 5.2in (13.2cm) MSFG: 4.92in (12.5cm)

I will be continuing the Newbie Routine+ADS for the time being but I am considering adding pumping soon.

Net BPEL gain since starting: 1.6cm (0.63in)

Pumping begins

I bought a Leluv pump and cylinder, ultima w/ gauge: https://www.ama … /dp/B00LNK809O/ , this was quite expensive around 100usd. I did overpay a bit I guess, I just was too lazy to buy separate parts and get a setup for cheaper.
The cylinder I’m using is a 2in x 9in

2 month low pressure pumping routine, done for 5 days a week
Week 1: 5 min at 3 inHg
Week 2: 10 min at 3 inHg
Week 3: 2 sessions, One at 10 min, another at 5 min with a break in between
Week 4: 2 sessions, both at 10 min w/ break
Week 5: 3 sessions, two at 10 min at 3 inHg , one at 5 min at 4 inHg w/ breaks
Week 6: 3 sessions, all at 10 min at 4 inHg w/ breaks
Week 7: 3 sessions, all at 10min, 2 sessions at 4 inHg, one at 5 inHg w/ breaks
Week 8: 3 sessions all at 10 min and 5 inHg w/ breaks

I’m not going to go beyond 5 inHg for a while

I will also be continuing the Newbie routine, which will be done after pumping, just 10 min stretching and jelqing.
After newbie routine ill probably use an ADS for a few hours, but not much. Not sure yet on continuing use of ADS, might be overdoing it at that point.

Congratulations to some fantastic results. I understand that you are eager to grow, but please take it easy. Do the newbie routine until you reach a plateau. Wait with the pump, that will give you girth, not so much length. If you want more length, then don’t pump now, is my advice, maybe the other guys think differently ? When I started out many years ago, I did the newbie, and later added an extender. My gains the first two years were 3cm length ( 1+qt inch). I happy with my girth, so I focused on length. After those years I stopped doing my routine for some reason, and have had a break for some years, without losing any of my gains. I have started out with the extender last month, and its still fun. My present measurements are BPEL 18,5 cm and EG 14,5cm ( 7+qt inch length and 5+3/4 inch girth)

Good luck, and remember hurry slowly.

Originally Posted by norwegian wood

Congratulations to some fantastic results. I understand that you are eager to grow, but please take it easy. Do the newbie routine until you reach a plateau. Wait with the pump, that will give you girth, not so much length. If you want more length, then don’t pump now, is my advice, maybe the other guys think differently ? When I started out many years ago, I did the newbie, and later added an extender. My gains the first two years were 3cm length ( 1+qt inch). I happy with my girth, so I focused on length. After those years I stopped doing my routine for some reason, and have had a break for some years, without losing any of my gains. I have started out with the extender last month, and its still fun. My present measurements are BPEL 18,5 cm and EG 14,5cm ( 7+qt inch length and 5+3/4 inch girth)

Good luck, and remember hurry slowly.

Thanks for your input, i laid off pumping this week to decide if I should try it now or not.

Some say, using mechanical stuff will cause you to become more conditioned earlier on, leading to harder gains in the long term.

Okay, sure but cant you just do a de-conditioning period where no PE is done, to combat this?

There is a few anecdotal evidence on thunders, where people have reported up to an inch (or more) increase in BPEL from pumping. From what I read pumping for length just requires you do use a more fitting cylinder.

In terms of maintaining almost linear gains for the first year of PE, wouldn’t it be more effective to switch to a new method, slightly before you “plateau”? This would allow you to not go through a stalling period, of little to no gains, before you realize you should try something else, which can be weeks to months even.

Anyone else have an opinion on a newbie pumping? I am ~5 months into PE

Just a random update, so i tried the pump 2 days ago, 3inHg was too much as i felt pain, so I did 1-2 in Hg for like 10 minutes.

After like 2 days of rest from the pump, I noticed my girth appeared to be larger, so I measured it. It was 5.7in (14.5cm) from 5.5in from previous measurements.

Right now im just going to be using the pump occasionally, so that i get used to it.


Start: 1/22/2018 BPEL: 6.1in MSEG: 5.1in

Now: 8/02/2018 BPEL: 7.0in MSEG: 5.7in

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