Gaining volume with Kyrpa

Yes I did post about it before. It’s a recent discovery for me and they are so effective I don’t know why more don’t talk about them.

I’d never thought about targeting the BS and IS though. But I do know that at times I’ve been bigger my BS was a lot better developed and I felt like this was responsible for the extra length and girth. I know people poopoo the idea but it felt like I had the strength to allow ‘hidden penis’ to extend out without fear of it snapping if that makes sense. Like the muscles are strong enough to support a heavier cantilever load so with a little reverse kegel more hidden penis can come out.

So you are doing these while erect I take it?

Your sensation might come from BS and IS been so pumped up that erections are their best when these muscles act like a trunk of the penis.
These sets are done best with erection levels of approximately 50 %. Erect enough to have best possible contraction on muscles and soft enough to bend and twist the shaft to reach every aspect of IS muscle striations.

Sounds very encouraging. So would you recommend me to add to my program kegeling without pulling force for every day basis.
Do you think that kegeling every day would not hinder gains as these exercises I practice do exhaust penile muscles?

Yes definitely. Your idea(stretch kegels) is very interesting and i encourage you to try it, but dont wait for this exercise to train kegels. For me it doesn’t work well because if i keep kegeling while stretching at some point the intense contractions will push blood into the penis and the result will be a semi erection, which is counter productive for stretching. But i have to try it more to give valuable feedback.

I believe that every day kegeling will never hinder gains, in fact it can help to balance the EQ drops from stretching. I can tell you that from my experience. I do very heavy manual stretching and every day kegeling only has helped me with gains.

Every time i edge at high erection level i push my erection angle with my palm at 3 or 4 o’clock and i do a strong kegel to fight the resistance of my palm. I keep the contraction until my erection drops enough. I do this several times each session. You will find that after two weeks of doing this the contraction will be strong as hell, to the point that it will scare you.

Thats the most interesting thing i have read about kegels and it sounds very promising.

Very good empiric knowledge, thank you for your input here. I will continue as I am doing and based on my recovery from exercises I will increase the amount of kegels. To be added my experience also has shown that intense stretching drops EQ and inserting these kegel exercises got quite a lot increase in EQ.

Let me be more clear on my stretching. I do these penile bodybuilding workouts as I dare to call them as a separate workout from any of my main lengthening routines.

While doing these forced kegels I keep full control in muscles I am training.
I do not try to stretch any other tissues while doing this.

I use force enough to stretch the muscle under tension but not over the point muscle contraction fails.
As I loosen the contraction I do not let it stretch freely rather I keep it slightly contracted while relaxing muscle elongates to its almost full length. So someone who has ever trained muscles this should be easy to do.
Contract the loaded muscle with full force and stretch the loaded muscle while loosening the contraction.
Never fully losing the contraction within workout set.

To me your description of pushing your erection with your hand sounds just like putting pressure to the IS muscle striations which run along the dorsal thickening and radiates there on?

Re-post of the link to the study I am referring:
Anatomy of the Human Penis.pdf

That’s what i can think. My spaculation is that with this exercise you can achieve greater and faster results in terms of erection strength than with simple kegels. Of course regular kegels throughout the day are completely necessary, but with this exercise it seems that i target the IC muscle better. Anyway the muscle become stronger faster due to the added resistance.

After some weeks of doing this resistance exercise when i am erect i have noticed that i can make my erection harder by simply squeezing the muscles. I can feel the pressure of the muscle contraction to the dorsal side of my penis (IC muscle) and its intense.

This makes me think that if someone can remain really consistent with kegels training, the benefits in terms of sexual performance can be unreal. Not only when it comes to better EQ but also about lasting longer and having a way better control of these muscles:

Awareness and timing of pelvic floor muscle contraction, pelvic exercises and rehabilitation of pelvic floor in lifelong premature ejaculation: 5 years experience - PubMed

Pelvic-floor muscle rehabilitation in erectile dysfunction and premature ejaculation - PubMed

You have sold me the idea. I will be doing kegels now and then during my every day life here from.
Still feel kegeling ischiocavernosus specifically to be really hard to do freely. It is much easier for me to use these muscles against some external force. Maybe I get there by practice.

One thing I have been thinking of is to try TENS or similar electrical stimulation to teach my IS muscles to work better.
Link you posted also mentioned it have been used to recover muscular functionality to cure ED issues.

My sexual performance is hindered by poor EQ and I believe this has lead to another problem which is not premature but delayed ejaculation issues. Sometimes it would take hours to reach. Usually I feel that my daily orgasms are limited to maximum of 2.

With a low dose of cabergoline taken now for a few weeks I was surprised to achieve record breaking four times in 24 hours.
Still no cure to delayed ejaculation thou. Fitness wise it is profitable and some of the ladies tend to like to be banged for hours but I am not enjoying it that much anymore myself.

I am thinking this rationally and first things first which to me is make sure pelvic muscles , nerves and blood flow are not causing this issue. Next to fight is mental aspect which might have developed during these difficulties.

I will wait for your feedback about the results from kegels. I was always very curious about the benefits from kegels exercises and its my bad that i wasn’t consistent. But now i am very serious.

The mental aspect as you mentioned is a big part i believe. I am very young but i still have experienced EQ issues when i wasn’t into the moment or back then when i had performance anxiety a few times. Now i have learned to enjoy the experience with my body and not with my mind. The mind playing games with us. Maybe something doesn’t excite you that much.

6th month progress progress, which is measurable
BPEL 19.7cm ->19.9 +0.2
BPSFL 21.2cm->21.3 +0.1
MSEG* 14.4 cm->14.6 +0.2
Volume is now up by 36%
*Documented mseg is average from base (15.5), midshaft (14.5.) and behind the glans girth (13.8) for more accurate volume calculation.
Measurements were taken being two days off PE without ED drugs.

Lesson learned as I was too enthusiastic about results to be reached.
First of all I didn’t find the time to produce workouts as was planned. Total amount of PE hours only being 23,5 hours of PE and 18 days of resting in 30 days long period. Intense stretching time was ~10 hours. These being estimations as I also failed to document them properly.
Secondly it turned out to be harder to get gains this month than previously. But not to draw any lines with it exercises being compromised and lacking.

That been said I will continue with the vision focused again in long term results. This was the case to start with but got a little bit carried away with good results. Gains reached so I have to be happy with this month despite minor setbacks.

What I learned this period will benefit lot in terms of cementing gains and getting well functioning penis.
I also learned not to be too obsessed about PE and results rather do the exercises when you can and just make sure they will be done without calendar and clock ticking.
After introducing girth orientated exercises and stretched kegels my EQ has been improving week by week.

Also my flaccid size keeps on improving as a result of these which is positive. I also started to do regular kegeling almost everyday.
Post workout BPFSL have been up to 21.5 - 21.6 cm being 1.8 % strain from pre workout length at most. Regarding to this there will be BPEL gains coming but they need some time to mature.

What I will do is get back to five days cycling as I feel better with it.
Reasoning being that stretching might be needed to be performed more often to gain on BPFSL. Also shorter cycling gives more freedom to be consistent despite some obstacles in time management.

I am planning to do one more month with all the equipment before some major changes.
I have traveling ahead for two to three months with my current job. Starting from march I am planning to do only manual exercises for a month or so. Then one month decon break followed with a another month with manual exercises. This would be because lack of privacy mainly.
After intense stretching for a half of an year it would be good for my cock and mind.

After coming from ten years hiatus back to PE I have reached results I was only dreaming about and encouraged by the progress I will continue to eventually reach my goals.

BPEL 18 cm ->19.9 +1.9 cm
BPSFL 18cm->21.3 +3.3 cm
MSEG 13.15 cm->14.6 +1.45 cm
BPFL 13cm -> 15.5 + 2.5 cm
MSFG 12cm-> 12.8cm +0.8 cm
Volume is now up by 36% so I have now more than 1/3 more cock than what I start with.

Learning curve this has been and a good one.
I have made some mistakes and miscalculations but learned from them. Also happen to found other PE practitioners whom have same kind of mindset about what is happening here. Although I am doing this for my own welness I find it great if someone else appreciate my efforts and if my views on things could be helpful to somebody it would be great.

To summarize my first half of the year I would like to share some elements I have observed and found to be important.

Do but not over do
I have found that I reach no extra gains doing 70 or 50 hours instead of 35 hours a month.
At the other end of the spectrum I found 25 hours a month not to be productive.

Rest with short cycles
I had gains doing 10 days straight but they showed out after only I took some rest.
With five day cycle 3 on 2 off gains come more steadily.

Stress relaxation and reaching plastic zone
This is one of the key elements for stretching effectively with moderate loads. Tissues have to be gradually relaxed to their elastic limits with low loads before introducing moderate loads to stretch just beyond viscoelastic region to reach plastic region of the collagen based tissues.

Heat the cord
I started with a clear memory of steely cord inside my shaft restricting any kind of stretching severely at my previous attempts.
This time it didn’t´t as I heated it with ultrasound and extra heat source. With my current US machine I have managed to come a long way but now it is time to get more powerful unit. Target is to have septum and dorsal thickening of the penis heated to 40 -42 degrees Celsius. With a current one I can probably reach only 40 if everything is done at their very best. This have been time consuming and stressful.

EQ drop as a PI
Workouts are intense and with a method I am using they always reach levels of discomfort. So on EQ drops days I am working and I am not worried about it as it bounces back while resting.

BPFSL gains drop EQ
After biggest jumps on BPFSL EQ has been at its worst. This was where I introduced girth work and everything turned better.

Bodybuilding penis
Introducing kegeling against some external force my EQ skyrocketed and morning woods and nightly erections are rock hard despite how exhausting stretching events have been to my unit.

One cannot force gains
In my case I gain in BPEL maximum of 3mm a month no matter what I try to do. So if I am at this level I feel pleased with the gain rate as I know this is the maximum.
In fact if I gain anything I am pleased with it.
At the time I am writing this gains aren’t´t coming as easily as they were previous months.

Girth and length simultaneously
I know there are people jumping all over the internet and shouting it should not be done but never mind.
Many have done it before and many will in the future.
I like to think my cock expanding in volume and filling up some fortunate women instead of only lengthening it to be shown in internet.

Thanks for sharing. I’ve been doing the stretched kegels since I saw you talking about it but I haven’t found any other information on the internet. I found similar results to you with EQ.

I rarely hold a static stretch now after discovering the hypertrophy effect of dynamic stretches so i kegel against these dynamic stretches. Like you found, different stretch angles make it possible to focus on different muscles.

Well I think that there are mentions in some very old posts at this very same forum. Not described as muscle building workouts I have put them out but kegeling against pulling force. I am not sure thou where I have read.

Great thread. There is a ton of quality information here. Keep up the good work Kyrpa!

Thanks 38Special. I try to contribute something back to this community with observations I collect along the way.

At this moment I am forced out of my stretching routines for a while due to an injury. Got a blister while stretching with my modified PM under a hot shower. Guess the vacuum head got too hot and together with a high vacuum pressure I am using it happened.

Now I am doing only jelqing, and other manual manoeuvres possible for some time while healing from this injury.

Despite the injury I have finally made it to a new level with reaching 20cm BPEL which makes me very happy.

I am at the verge of plateauing as it is hard to get over 21.3cm BPFSL. I have reached 21.6 cm post exercise BPFSL repeatedly for few workout rounds not able to go further. As the attachment I am using is not allowing more force input and US I am using not allowing more heat my only option is do longer stretching sessions or doing them more often. Not being a fan of latter two there is still one option available not mentioned. Manual stretching was in a major role when I made my biggest jump on BPFSL.

Then again this could be the right moment with this injury and all to think this period as start of a macro P phase in my workout periodization. I am taking some days to consider it while healing the injury.