Gaining volume with Kyrpa

This week I was able to pull something out again. And feel stupid to say that the week seems to be 35th not 38th I thought it was.

BPFSL 22.0cm-> 22.3cm +0.3cm
Two weeks in making but I can now confirm this very welcomed outcome.
BPEL 20.4m-> 20.6cm +0.2cm

More traditional monthly wrap up looks like this:
BPEL 20.2m -> 20.6cm +0.4cm
BPFSL 21.4cm-> 22.3cm +0.9cm
MSEG 14.7cm +0.0cm

*Documented mseg is average from base (15.6), midshaft (14.6) and behind the glans girth (14.1) for more accurate volume calculation. Measurements are taken being two days off from PE activity. Geared with a 50mg of Viagra.

Three out of three short term goals now completed. I have been able to develop a one inch longer penis in eight months. More than that my penis has grown 3.6 cubic inches and now 43% larger volumetric size.

For this month conclusion it was right decision to follow the routines that have brought results earlier.
This week included the final cycle for this month. That said stakes are higher meaning that I need to perform every workout quite seriously as I feel the natural non US heat induced elasticity being very little to none at this point.
Doing everything best I can with more heat, time and force (only for manuals) within stretching routines.
Managed to perform decent workouts despite the feel of being at the very limit with the discomfort during and the soreness after workouts.
EQ on these days is poor and at its worst any thoughts of having sex are not in top priorities.
All is done more like athletes train their physiques. When you train hard you can’t perform that good. After a revitalizing rest you perform at your very best.

Day 1
Next to be started routines include pumping so I decided to take a jump start and getting the feel to pumping procedures after a long break.
Pumped with 1.75 LeLuv cylinder at 4-5 Hg Inches for a 30 mins. Apparently it seems that I am now packing it girth wise all the way but the plan is to stick with it for a few rounds.
Later on same day I had vac stretching loaded with 1kg elastic band for two hours.
Followed with a US heated 20 min stretches northwest and northeast with workload of 2-4 kg.
Manual stretching routine for a 20 minutes. Produced as day 5 in last week.
30 minutes in vac stretch with 1kg load at maximum.

Measured pre BPFSL 22.2cm and post BPFSL 23cm. Strain of 3.6%. Had to re-measure few times as I couldn’t believe my eyes.

Day 2
Started with Vac stretching with elastic band. Pulling towards knees 1 hour each side.
Workload fluctuating between 1- 1.5kg.
Then jumped to pumping using US as a pre-heating method. I heated the glans and top 1/3 of the shaft for a 5 mins. Squeezing blood to glans while heating and keeping it hand clamped until sucked in to a cylinder. Cylinder was also heated with warm water and using rice sock to keep it warm during pumping. Pumped 30 mins keeping pressure at 4- 5 inHg. Occasionally visiting higher vacuum pressures at 8 - 12 inHg for 30 sec or so.
Later on same day vac stretching left and right for a 30min.
Followed by 20min US heated vac stretch with a 2-4 kg elastic band load. This time pulled downwards as any side stretches felt too exhausting at this point.
Manual stretching for 20 mins as day before.

Measured pre BPFSL 22.2cm and post BPFSL 22.8cm. Strain of 2.7%.

Day 3
Starting with the pump as I did day 1. This might to be the order as the initial results suggest.
US heated with maintenance heat for 30 minutes at vac pressure 4-5 inHG. This kept penis at +21 cm length while in the cylinder.
This was followed by ~100 minutes long vac stretching with a elastic band loaded for 1kg. Stretching in ordinal compass points 25 mins each.
Later on 15 minutes of wet jelqs as a finisher for this cycle. Didn’t feel the need to do anything more. Really happy with the workouts and results.

Measured pre-exercise BPFSL 22.2cm and post BPFSL 22.9 cm. Strain of 3.2%.

Day 4
Rest. Organ was really sore through the day and spontaneous erections lacking. But first signs of recovery started to show at night.

Day 5
Everything starts to look good again. Rest. Erections fine. Measurements taken.

The plan was to take two weeks off from stretching after this week.
But looking at the charts I am producing with my results I really have to run it 4 weeks further to get some comparable data which I will likely show here later on.
There is very interesting data gathering and as I am in a good flow and health there is no need to jump off right now.
One thing else is that this a good time window as well. My soon to come scheduled work-related travels have been postponed for a few weeks now. Then I will rest at least two weeks. Maybe more.

Wow, pretty huge, and quick gains you have. And apparently you have a self-made but still very “scientific” methods (some of them anyways) too.

What puzzles me about the measurements is that the gap between BPFSL and BPEL is pretty long, about 2-2.5 cm. For me it has always been like 0.75-1 cm. Flaccid being longer, of course.

Well this is not science. And I certainly am not an scientist. Lets just say that I am not here just massaging and jerking my dick in a hope if something just appears few years later. I am former athlete and I tend to take this also as a serious sport.

There are differences between individuals of course. Have to mention that I started with a zero difference in measures eight months ago. I am sure with more time on PE the difference should be come narrower for me too. But it seems there is potential as I am able to pull out the difference. There could be some personal hot spot where the BPEL gains start to come.

When you are talking about 2-2.5 cm figures you are talking about those measures taken after very intense stretching sessions where every millimeter available are pulled out. Very methodically and aided with a tools you might not have in you disposal at the moment.
But take a look to a measures in my documented stats and you see the “normal” BPFSL values taken at resting state.
Then you find out that the biggest difference is 1.7 cm I believe. Have to mention also that even if I measured 23cm after workout I still got only 22.2cm following morning.

Anyways my BPEL starts to lenghten in increments every time I am able to pull the difference in this level.
Picture attached shows the chart of my BPFSL and BPEL progress. It is evident that every time BPFSL gain measured in resting state increases it induces BPEL gains within by little bit of delay. This is my guide as I am convinced that only thing I have to be concerned is BPFSL gains and the rest will follow. And if I someday stop stretching in certain lenght and still continue to other PE activities to induce growth BPEL and BPFSL slowly start to approach each other.

Lenghtening the tunica first then doing what ever is needed to grow to fill this enlarged white jacket.

Now the timestamp is corrected.

BPFSL 22.3cm >>> 22.5cm +0.2 cm

I took 5 days off from PE. Measured 22.3 BPFSL on resting day number five.
I am looking for permanent gains and it seems they are. If they were just elastic gains they would fade away as quickly as they have come.
I am re-running my 5th month routines as a continuation of the process started previous month.
Main difference is penimaster set up in use instead of the elastic band stretching.
Otherwise same tools in use. Pumping added as a regularly used component.
I´ll divide this in numbered cycles for this log as they are five days long not fitting to weekly update rhythm.

Cycle 1. Day 1
First thing in the morning as the night wood was fading out 5 minutes US heating while manual clamping before 30 minutes pumping at 4-5 inHG with a rice sock warmed cylinder.
Later on same day I had penimaster loaded with original springs locked out in the top position to stress relaxation for 40minutes. Then phase two springs in use for a 50 minutes.
Followed with a US heated extending 20 min in the tuned penimaster pro setup with workload of 2-4 kg. Pointing upwards, straight out and downwards while heating.
Immediately after followed manual stretching routine performed for a 15 minutes. Half of the time doing manual fulcrums.

Measured pre BPFSL 22.3cm and post BPFSL 23cm. Strain of 3.1%.
Later in the evening 10/5 minutes JELQ/AM

Day 2
Morning was started by pumping as day 1. At the end went twice to a lower pressures down to 15 inHG and 20 inHG for a 15 seconds and measured BPEL 21,2cm in the cylinder.
Just as a curiosity of course as it serves next to nothing this way. Near full vacuum pressure pumping itself is a another thing. For the future use I have this possibility as I happen to own an industrial vacuum pump already in my disposal.
Rest of the day as yesterday other than manual stretching being 20 minutes long session.
Manual stretching felt exhausting and whole unit was sort of non-responding.

Measured pre BPFSL 22.3cm and post BPFSL 22.7cm. Strain of 1.8%

Day 3
This day was too busy due the schedule so I had to compromise. Did all exercises in one morning session. Starting with the pump not using heating this time. 30 minutes at 4-5 inHG.
30 min stress relaxation in PM with maximum of 1.1kg load. Followed by 30 minutes with phase 2 springs loaded. No heating.
No manual stretching this day as day earlier didn’t feel productive and I was limited with the time anyway.
Finished with a 15minutes jelq and AM session.

Measured pre-exercise BPFSL 22.5cm and post BPFSL 23.2 cm. Strain of 3.1%.
For the first time ever I saw a glimpse of two inch elongation with that 9.1 inch stretched member.

Days may vary and results of the exercises as well. We can see it in day two and day three results.
Maybe I was not recovered enough between day one and two to be stretched intensively.
Analyzing strain percentages in a long run they have been floating at the average of 2.5 - 2.6 %.

Day 4
Rest. Some penile bodybuilding for IC and BC muscles and cyclic fulcrum stretches targeting cavernous smooth muscle mass.

Day 5
Rest. EQ excellent. BPFSL 22.5 cm.
Right now everything seems perfect as in some form little progress is measurable at weekly basis.

I do like how meticulous you are in your recording of things and the observed correlations that they explain.

I’m also fascinated by the protocol you’ve adopted, it’s almost as if though you took all best practices and then applied them in a very controlled way so as not to overdo anything. Sufficient to be sure but not anymore than that.

At least that’s how it looks to me.

Thanks Buckfever,

Your feedback feels encouraging as do all previous comments if I didn’t express it clearly enough.
To me this whole PE thing is a thinking man´s game.

I am confident in managing not overdoing but not to overthink is another thing.
I do think a lot and study every aspect repeatedly again and again to be able to observe what is happening.

There is clear analogy to my bodybuilding days in what you said on protocol and how to manage it .
I was a huge admirer of Dorian Yates when he burst in to the scene in early 90´s. He was a game changer in many aspect. Most influencing was his training philosophy.
Corner stones were high intensity , fewer and shorter workouts and more rest. Hardest thing to adopt from him was the high intensity and the meaning of it.
It didn’t come from more sets or more weight. It came from putting everything you got in very few meaningful sets and leaving it there. It meant having a right preparations and focused mindset to activate every available muscle cell to work when it matters.

This is the background where I am drawing influences in my approach on PE. It is still evolving but I am confident in getting there.

Actually that is really an excellent metaphor for the sweet spot. I think you’re executing on it really well and I’m very curious to see where you are a year from now.

As a reply to Buckfever I can say that I am committed to a 2- 3 years expedition here. So thank you for your anticipation at this early.

So the usual 2 days off and back to business. Two consecutive cycles stretch over following weekend so there will be half month update coming soon with proper measurements etc.

Girth development has decelerated to a minimum or even stalled and length is increasing at record pace. Earlier I was experiencing 3mm elongation per month with a steady girth increase for a good period of time.
Now the lengthening is accelerated reaching pace of 4-5 mm per month and same time girth left behind quite a bit. I reckon that is all about the volume development which has its limitations not to be exceeded with the existing growth environment.

There is some differences though in the environment to be taken in consideration. At the time of the greatest girth expansion I was on healthier diet and supplementing with L-arginine plus pycnogenol. Also working out with a gym and cardio combination too.
Now been off from everything above for months I took a step and started them again to see if it makes any difference. I am feeling like crap under daily stress so getting healthier and fresh should be a better platform for PE as well like many here have proven already.

Cycle 2. Day 1
Pretty much the same as cycle 1 practices. Morning started with pumping. Penimaster and manual stretching. Jelging etc. Only slight variations in times used for exercises.
Measured pre BPFSL 22.6cm and post BPFSL 23.2cm. Strain of 2.7%.

Day 2
Same old same old.
Measured pre BPFSL 22.6cm and post BPFSL 23.2cm. Strain of 2.7%

Day 3
This time out I thought I have had enough. I am talking about Penimaster here. My base girth has grown that much I feel using this apparatus way too discomforting for longer periods with these modified stronger springs.
I am getting similar results stretching with elastic bands anyway.
For now on using Penimaster rod system as a stress relaxation only setup. No stronger phase two springs no original base springs.
It is now a purely bred rod adjusted stress relaxation extender. This way I need to use it only 30-40 minutes at time and it is easy to go with a elastic band stretch there onwards. Otherwise same workouts as previous .

Measured pre-exercise BPFSL 22.6cm and post BPFSL 23.2 cm. Strain of 2.7%.

Day 4
Rest. Usual cavernous muscle enhancement rituals.

Day 5
Rest. EQ excellent. Measured BPEL 20.7cm and 22.7 BPFSL. Have to be mentioned that I have never measured edging with a penis ring before. This time I did and reached 20.9 cm BPEL

Great results Kyrpa! I have to read more carefully to follow up on some of the new techniques you seemed to have introduced. Out of all new techniques which do you think deserves the most merit?

I am impressed how you manage to gain at what seems to be considerable less weight than me. Perhaps the manual stretches post stress relaxation is the key. Although not quantifiable at a lax state the force is mostly plastic and not elastic. The only problem is you can’t US during manual stretch, but maybe it is not necessary as you pre heat with it.

Your gain rate seems to be along the same as mine of 1cm bpfsl per month. It seems like there can be no faster gains rate than this for me. No matter how much I try. But it is repeatable it seems endlessly. I agree BPFSL is king in PE and everything else follows.

I think your Dorian Yates style is good with minimizing bad PIs and resting is allowing you to continually gain without major decon R macro phases. Ill have to read more between the lines to understand what your philosophy is on this, but it seems to be primordial for continual gains.

Do you find wet jelquing and pumping help with maximizing BPFSL gains or is it just to speed up catching up of BPEL?

Thanks Manko I appreciate your insights.

I would say that the you nailed it on stress relaxation prepared manual stretching being the most valuable combination for my BPFSL gains. That said it couldn’t be possible without US induced heat. At the time of manual stretching I have already achieved the verge of plastic region and no heat is needed anymore.

Jelqs and pumping are for accelerating growth for BPEL mainly. Although implementing pumping it gave initially certain boost to strain percentages also.
For maintaining my sexual performance and overall penis health I would say training IC and BC muscles being crucial.

It seems that 2 months being the time frame for BPFSL gains before hitting the plateau. As you can see in the it is easy to predict from the trends projected attached chart. I am now on the verge of plateauing in this period and it would be pointless to continue after the dotted line with stretching much longer. According to one study linked here in some thread I cant recall at the moment there were speculated that getting 0,5% of plastic strain stretching tendon or ligament it would have permanent outcomes repeated in ten consecutive workouts. So if this is to be case I should nail that 23.2cm post BPFSL length another couple of times and leave it there.

Both of us do not need any acceleration in gain rates. I am afraid rushing things from here would be easily counterproductive.

I took a privilege on commenting your great progress in your log. You are doing just great. If I was you there is only one thing I would like to do. I would back down to 6.9 kg or even less coming out of decon break. And proceed back to present max weight never exceeding that weight. Taking the breaks as you do and repeat it time after time as long as it works.
With your approach you will need longer breaks than I do. Keep taking those two days breaks regularly as I am doing here also. Sometimes even five days if needed.

If someone reading this haven´t already read mankos log you certainly should:
Manko007’s road to big dick land

That is very similar to my experience. I start hitting a wall at days 26-30 in I phase like it is insurmountable to matter how much time and efforts and weight I put on. The only thing that works is decon. I also like hitting that post bpfsl at least a couple times to make sure it’s a wall and not just a breakable plateau.

Yes, you are absolutely right on the money there with the weight. I felt like it’s getting to be too heavy. Albeit still comfortable and interestingly a feeling of good stretch in the shaft. But I will definitely heed that advise and go back to 6.9. As Xeno experienced he factored the weight or stress should be 3x at the end of I Phase, if I remember correctly. I like to go back to average weight of pre-cycle and work from there.

I agree 1 cm gain rate per cycle are the best gains I’ve ever had, so can’t imagine it would get better. Now I am averaging that per cycle, and each cycle takes 2 months, so in 1 year, that would be 6 cm BPFSL gain, best case. 2 inches a year, I will take that any day over not gaining as before this method. And I love the certainty of results = motivation to keep going.

Two weeks since official measurements and two weeks left in this period before mandatory rest.

BPEL 20.6 cm -> 20.8cm +0.2 cm
BPSFL 22.3cm-> 22.7cm +0.4 cm
MSEG* 14.7 cm->14.83 cm +0.1 cm

*Documented mseg is average from base (15.5), midshaft (14.7) and behind the glans girth (14.3) for more accurate volume calculation. Measurements are taken being two days off PE and geared with 50mg of Viagra.

These measurements taken at this point are important since they mark the point where post exercise BPFSL development has reached its limits for this period. From here on I am not trying to push for more and simply trying to repeat this limit as close I can get for the rest of the period.

Clamping has been introduced and manual and vacuum stretching intensity are tuned down a lot.
Goal is to keep BPEL and BPFSL measured at rest gaining and aiming to have some impact on girth as well.

Cycle 3. Day 1
Morning pumping 30 mins. Got a great morning wood and put it straight in to a cylinder when waking up. Kept it as warm as I could stand.
Later did usual stress relaxation for 30 minutes and followed with a 120 mins vac stretch with elastic band. Finished with 20 minutes of US heated fulcrum stretching with vacuum and elastic band.
Got some fluid retention below my glans so didn’t think manual stretching would be appropriate.

Measured pre BPFSL 22.7cm and post BPFSL 23.2cm. Strain of 2.2%.

Day 2
Morning was started with 30 minutes of jelqing. It was followed with 30 minutes of pumping as usual.
This day I had the time to do three sessions a day. I proceeded with 45mins in stress relaxation followed with 105 minutes vac stretching.
Later in the evening 30 minutes jelq/AM. AM2/3 is proven to be good exercise to jelq precisely CS.
Combined with powerful kegels to pump some blood followed with a upward stroke I can achieve some great expansion in my glans keeping my dorsal veins pinned with my thumb at the topside on the base of my shaft.
If not mentioned separately I do these AM CS jelqs pretty much every workout day for a few minutes.

After this I get back to clamping with 2 x10 minutes set. Used US for the first time ever for this purpose and experimenting also with using stress relaxation method in clamping as well. Interesting observations for the future use found immediately.

Measured pre BPFSL 22.7cm and post BPFSL 23.2cm. Strain of 2.2%.

Day 3
Started with morning pumping for 30 minutes.

Later on same day in one session 50 minutes stress relaxation with extender.
Followed with 60 minutes vac stretching. Then 15 minutes US heated vac stretching and 5 minutes fulcrum vac stretching.
Completed with 10 minutes manual stretching including some fulcrum as well.

Measured pre BPFSL 22.7cm and post BPFSL 23.2cm. Strain of 2.2%.

Day 4
Rest. Usual cavernous muscle enhancement rituals.

Day 5.
Rest. Usual cavernous muscle enhancement rituals. Measurements. Happy as ever.

Keep on trying everyone out there.

How did you decide on your goal?

Excellent thread.

From excel basicly. I went to put few great gainer stats on excel and studied them a bit. Putting logarithmic trend lines on lenght gains tend to correlate quite nicely on some them.
More they have datapoints in their first year or two then more correlating the trend line seems to be and future lenght gains are predictable to some extend.

After three to four months in I could see my logarithmic trendline reaching 1.4 inc gain in a year. After reading TP study on average gains I thought I´ll go with it then.
Timewise I didn´t lock any goals until recently as I believe to have some backing for my desires. For a while now I have been keeping my eyes on a one year mark.

Girth is not so easy. Chewing the data didn´t give me that much backing on my aspirations. After three months the trend was predicting again at 1 years mark me the value I then chose to be my goal. Reading TP studies again I thought it would be safe to aim for it even if the on year time made it brave choice.

So for a start of my journey it took some time and studies also courage building to set the goals. Now that I know what is happening down there it is more predictable and safe to set new ones. I believe on my goals and I keep pushing towards.

For the short term goals I go with the data I have. I have attached couple of shots on my beloved excel sheets showing my journey with lenght.
Interesting thing is how much better you actually see what is happening when comparing these with a lot of data points to TP stats where I have put measures monthly or so.
Other one has period 1 and period 2 embed together and time synchronized. If you ask me it looks rather fine.