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Igigi's quest for the foot long with UltraSound Therapy

Originally Posted by AndyJ
You can consider that an extended decon and restart from zero.

Have you had any change in size during that time?

Absolutely. I thought the same. Since we usually get "obsessed" with growth, we never really give a true decon time. Therefore all this time completely off, has been a very nice period to completely decon from everything.

And to answer your question, yes of course. All this decon comes with a cost. I measure yesterday BPFSL at 23cm. That puts me I believe 1 cm over my original BPFSL before Ultrasound, but almost 2.5 cm under my biggest length from Ultrasound. It ll makes sense though considering how smooth muscle, skeletal muscle, tendon, connective tissue, collagen operates. I expect to recover what I have lost and attempt to continue after that.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Hi Igigi. I have read your and Kyrpas whole threads with interest and I have also followed your routes with double US pro 2000 2nd editions for multiple months this year. I’m now basically exactly on your measurements at the end of period 2. At the moment I have some heating problems with the ultrasounds that I didn’t before. I don’t know if they broke or not, so I’m using totalman IR pad instead getting good strains with that too.
Kudos to you for your great results!
Do you think that you could have kept some more of the BPFSL during your long decon if you closed the BPFSL/ BPEL gap some more, so that the daily and nocturnal erections keep using the length?

Best regards


Last edited by Biggie23 : 01-18-2024 at .

Originally Posted by AndyJ
Judging by the reports of others in the forum, regaining your losses shouldn’t take long.

Are you going to resume the same routine you were using before?

Yes, my intention is to repeat the same first Ultrasound period I did. The difference with that one, was less weight. That first period worked, it was effective, and considering this long decon break in which I barely used my dick, all the tissues should be ready to react once again to the therapy. Less is always more. I believe incorrectly kept increasing weight too much and that’s what lead me to all those huge blisters towards the end.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by Biggie23
Hi Igigi. I have read your and Kyrpas whole threads with interest and I have also followed your routes with double US pro 2000 2nd editions for multiple months this year. I’m now basically exactly on your measurements at the end of period 2. At the moment I have some heating problems with the ultrasounds that I didn’t before. I don’t know if they broke or not, so I’m using totalman IR pad instead getting good strains with that too.
Kudos to you for your great results!
Do you think that you could have kept some more of the BPFSL during your long decon if you closed the BPFSL/ BPEL gap some more, so that the daily and nocturnal erections keep using the length?

Best regards

Regarding the heating issues with the transducers, I dont think they broke, is most probably a conductivity issue related to perhaps the amount of gel you are using. There is a way to test the transducers with oil. Dont quote me on this, probably if you google it you will find the correct way to do it, but I believe you can put oil in a glass, heat it from the bottom with the transducer, and it should produce a characteristic patterns from the heating with the sound waves.

To answer your question, probably yes. Hard to tell without doing the experiment. Taking it down to science, I have to refresh my knowledge but I remember reading all those posts from Kyrap in regards to the time it takes for the ECM to finally reorganize and "cement" those gains.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Hi Igigi,

First off would like to congratulate you on your gains! I am a college kid looking to start PE. I have some experience with hanging and water pumping for 2-3months straight while using an all day stretcher 4x a week for hours. I took a break for a year and now I am back (saw minimal gains). Looking for a new routine to start with and gradually increase the routine. Here is the catch, I am a freshman in college living in the dorms so the exercises can not be completed in my room and will be completed in the bathroom. When you get the chance, would you be able to help me out and provide a newbie routine that involves water pumping to gain girth and length? Your time is valuable and I appreciate the time you have given up to help others on this website. Thank you!

Originally Posted by igigi
Regarding the heating issues with the transducers, I don’t think they broke, is most probably a conductivity issue related to perhaps the amount of gel you are using. There is a way to test the transducers with oil. Don’t quote me on this, probably if you google it you will find the correct way to do it, but I believe you can put oil in a glass, heat it from the bottom with the transducer, and it should produce a characteristic patterns from the heating with the sound waves.

To answer your question, probably yes. Hard to tell without doing the experiment. Taking it down to science, I have to refresh my knowledge but I remember reading all those posts from Kyrap in regards to the time it takes for the ECM to finally reorganize and "cement" those gains.

Thank you! I might try to do that test.

Yes, it was a very long time since I read Tutts and Kyrpas discussions about that. But they talked about many, many months if I remember correctly, but still 1-2 months of decon is enough to reorganize enough to make further progress. It would seem logical that if converted to BPEL then the stretch is entertained for as long as it takes to reorganize and cement, whereas if one does not use it one would loose it. I need to convert to BPEL myself now. I remember Kyrpa has talked about clamping and length restricted pumping as being best for that. What is in your opinion the best method for BPEL gains? Looking forward to follow your progress in regaining the length and I hope it is a speedy process for you.

Best regards.

Just to update everyone, I did a couple of Ultrasound sessions. The results were very motivational, since it seems like some sort of "muscle memory" plays a role here. I started at 23cm, after the first session reached 23.5cm. The next day, went from 23.5 to 23.9. However, disaster strike. My beloved blister came back. Big time. This time, there was a difference though. I discovered exactly the cause of the blister.

All this time that same big blister has been coming up in the same spot. I discovered this time, during that second session, that specific spot becomes weak due to the twist of the penis to rest over the leg "upside down" in order to hit the septum. This second time, I put even more stress on it when I turned my body away from the weight, making myself more "sideways" and kinda applying a fulcrum on the penis with my leg. That put a tremendous stress on that specific spot of the glans. It seems like the whole vacuum was pulling from that specific spot.

It has been recovered since then, I will try another session probably tomorrow while applying some sort of protection in that spot and now trying to reduce the stress on that specific area. Sitting right now at 23.5cm.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

We have some guys singing the praises of fulling the chamber with water before putting it on. It’s supposed to reduce or eliminate vacuum blisters. I haven’t tried it yet.

It’s easy enough to do; you might want to give it a shot.

After you reached the max length on the previous campaign, did you spend any time cementing the gains?


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Originally Posted by Buckfever
After you reached the max length on the previous campaign, did you spend any time cementing the gains?

No. I did not do any type of PE whatsoever. Nothing at all. Not even pulling for measuring. Just normal use of the unit.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by AndyJ
We have some guys singing the praises of fulling the chamber with water before putting it on. It’s supposed to reduce or eliminate vacuum blisters. I haven’t tried it yet.

It’s easy enough to do; you might want to give it a shot.

I tried this and I’ve read it can lead to blisters when used with high heat. Just found out about it after I got my blister using the same method. I didn’t even change the weight. I think I’m going to stick to dry vacuum with taping the glans until I figure something out.

You should wrap after you stretch and wear it as long as possible. This is how you cement your gains.

Hydrocolloid patch is a great way to both heal a blister and train with one.

If you use the water method you do have to keep the heat source away from the water. With a small IR pad, like the TM style, you can wrap the shaft and avoid the vacuum chamber.

I was intermittently getting blisters with the taping method but once I started using the water method I haven’t had a blister, even with higher weights or longer session times.


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Ultrasound Therapy vs Soundwave or Phoenix device

Great thread and awesome gains!

What’s the difference between an ultrasound device vs a Soundwave or Phoenix device?

Currently, I have a Pheonix. Now that I am back at PE after a break, I have incorporated the device into my routine. It’s too early to tell if it has an impact on my gains.


Started: 6.75" BPEL, 8" (20 cm) BPFSL (1/2015) x 5" (12.5 cm) EG; Current (7/2017): 8" (20 cm) BPEL, 8.2" (20.5 cm) BPFSL x 5.8" (14.5 cm) EG; Gains (7/2017): 1.25" (3.125 cm) EL, 0.2" (0.5 cm) BPFSL x 0.8" (2 cm) EG

Short-term goal: 8.25 (20.625 cm) BPEL, 8.3" (20.75 cm) BPFSL x 6" (15 cm) EG; Long-term goal: 9" (22.5 cm) BPEL x 6" EG

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