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Igigi's quest for the foot long with UltraSound Therapy

Originally Posted by Zeboss
Nice to see you here mate, I was worried your thread all your beautiful research was gone with MOS.. Used to be one of your thread buddies in the US therapy thread you made over there. I noticed you mentioned PGE-1 and that totally caught my attention. I have always been intrigued by subjects relating to it. I have some questions regarding PGE-1, I am hoping you can supply answers.

1, I have read a bunch of ChemPE threads regarding PGE-1, however they never state if length gains were achieved in addition to the obvious girth gains, wanted to know if you saw any length at all during your experiments.

2, During the course of reading about PGE-1 and trimix etc.. I always came across reports of irreversible erectile dysfunction being a very common albeit not guaranteed outcome when used by otherwise healthy individuals. The first time I came across it was on a bodybuilders forum where one of the users was logging his ChemPE progress and then things totally went south after he built a bit of a resistance to it. What has been your experience regarding this observation?

Cheers

Hey my friend apologies for the late reply.

1. I saw little gains in lengths, it was almost completely gains in girth. But there is a reason for that. Its called the septum. That is the limiting factor or dead end. If someones septum is not the limiting factor, then there will be length gains.

2. At least in my case, there was never any kind of resistance or tolerance build up to it. Never had any ED from PGE-1. In my opinion, it all comes down to essential nutrients.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by Zeboss
Sorry for the delayed response, just getting to see your reply.
Did you use Needle free injection or stick an actual needle into your joint? Lol

Yes I did inject with an insulin syringe in my penis. 31G 8mm first week but as my dickskin is very thick I had to use a 31G 12mm then following weeks, tried 12,7mm but those are way to big for my flaccid shaft.

If you do it fast and clean, you wont notice nothing at all, perhaps a mosquito bite but that’s about it.


Wow. I can tell this thread is a gold mine and I have lots of research to do here.

My time is somewhat limited now in terms of studying/research more PE science, but I’d love to start giving some of these methods a try as I start learning more.

From what I understand, you’re using the ultrasound device while the penis is in a stretched state? Either handing with weights or some kind of extender? I wasn’t sure what the 1kg was from.

Wishing you much success on your journey to a footlong penis.

If you do ever get around to posting or sharing progress photos, it would be so inspiring for me to see. I haven’t seen real photos of men that are going to 10” and beyond before.

Also, did you do anything to get all the way up to 6.25” girth? I think I saw someone here referenced chem PE.

I’ve read a decent chunk of this thread but not everything yet. Also going to look at another one you mentioned.

Thank you for being a pioneer!

Also, The Phoenix shockwave therapy device is very powerful. It blew my mind the first few times I used it. I wonder how it is similar and different to Ultrasound. You might be interested in trying it or looking it up if you haven’t yet.

Originally Posted by xenofact777
Wow. I can tell this thread is a gold mine and I have lots of research to do here.

My time is somewhat limited now in terms of studying/research more PE science, but I’d love to start giving some of these methods a try as I start learning more.

From what I understand, you’re using the ultrasound device while the penis is in a stretched state? Either handing with weights or some kind of extender? I wasn’t sure what the 1kg was from.

Wishing you much success on your journey to a footlong penis.

If you do ever get around to posting or sharing progress photos, it would be so inspiring for me to see. I haven’t seen real photos of men that are going to 10” and beyond before.

Also, did you do anything to get all the way up to 6.25” girth? I think I saw someone here referenced chem PE.

I’ve read a decent chunk of this thread but not everything yet. Also going to look at another one you mentioned.

Thank you for being a pioneer!

Also, The Phoenix shockwave therapy device is very powerful. It blew my mind the first few times I used it. I wonder how it is similar and different to Ultrasound. You might be interested in trying it or looking it up if you haven’t yet.

Thank you for the words my friend.

The Ultrasound therapy is performed while applying tension on the penis. A progressive tension that starts extremely low and increases over the course of the therapy.

My girth increase was achieved with the assistance of PGE-1

Kyrpa experimented with shockwave therapy which is different, but had negative results in terms of growth. Great results for EQ, bad results for growth.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Do I understand correctly that it should look something like this?

Method: hanging with BIB and US pro 2000 2nd device
2-3 days on, 2days off
1 cycle = about 40-50 days
Girth: +/- 100mm
Warm up weight = 1.5-1.7kg 1x20min
Heat weight = 2.2-2.7kg 1x20min or 2x15min
Cool Down = 3-3.2kg 1x 15min
Heat weight time = Turn on the device, put the gel on the top of the shaft, put the device on the shaft at pre-heats up to 95 ° F for the first 3 minutes, turn the small circles, then turn on the 1.60W / cm² level and another 17 minutes (if the set = 20min) spinning small circles, taking care not to hold the device at one point for more than 10 seconds.

Is this the correct routine? I will be very grateful for any suggestions

Looking forward to start a new third period, today I performed the following experiment.

During the previous 2 periods I have used the technique “over the leg” That means, resting the penis on my left leg while applying the Ultrasound in order to receive those sound waves behind the penis and bounce them back from the leg. This technique requires something that I have never been pleased about. Twisting the penis. It has to be twisted in order to rest the dorsal side on the leg and expose the ventral side up. But this creates an effect of a “bundled” stretch to some degree.

Therefore recently I thought about just keeping the penis straight out, and applying the Ultrasound from underneath or the ventral side and measure temperature on the septum.

I applied the 4 thermocouples along the septum and proceeded to immediately apply Ultrasound while increasing tension progressively at 200grams every 3 minutes for a total of aprox 20 minutes.

It works. Temperature was easily maintained in the septum at 40-41 degrees. Due to the satisfactory result, starting on my next period it will always be straight out. This I believe will target the septum more efficiently. It becomes a little bit messier with the gel coming from underneath, but nothing that cannot be properly managed.

This was not a session, this was a test. There was no before or after measurements, this experiment had the sole purpose of measuring the temperature in the septum and test the efficacy of this approach.

Will begin a new third Period soon.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
Therefore recently I thought about just keeping the penis straight out, and applying the Ultrasound from underneath or the ventral side and measure temperature on the septum.

This is exactly what I did in my first US therapy sessions back in 2020. I then didn’t have pulley system so my first few sessions I was stretching straight out. Those were best strains (over 5%) that I have ever had. Best what I managed against leg was about 3.5 %.

Originally Posted by bigfin87
This is exactly what I did in my first US therapy sessions back in 2020. I then didn’t have pulley system so my first few sessions I was stretching straight out. Those were best strains (over 5%) that I have ever had. Best what I managed against leg was about 3.5 %.

Did you keep the giant and did they translate into BPEL?


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

WoW, I read this entire thread, impressive log and results. Makes me want to go and read the other pioneers threads of Kypra, Tutu and Manko007 next.

Here’s a Equipment list for the Protocol IGIGI had done.

EA EQUIPMENT
1 AWS SCALE
1 BASKET (hold weights)
1 CLAMP
1 GORILLA TAPE
1 IR LAMP
1 RISEPRO 4 CHANNEL K-THERMOCOUPLE
1 ROPE
6 RUBBER BANDS
2 S HOOK
1 SCALE
1 SILICON SLEEVES
1 SMALL PULLEY
1 US PRO 2000 SECOND EDITION.
1 US THERAPY GEL (GALLON)
1 VACUUM CUP
30 WEIGHTS (200 KG EACH)

Leaving my comment so I don’t forget to follow this thread!excited to read through all this stuff here in the next couple days!

Originally Posted by igigi
Did you keep the giant and did they translate into BPEL?

I just saw my misspelling, I meant to say “gains” instead of “giant” lol. There was not pun intended.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
Looking forward to start a new third period, today I performed the following experiment.

During the previous 2 periods I have used the technique “over the leg” That means, resting the penis on my left leg while applying the Ultrasound in order to receive those sound waves behind the penis and bounce them back from the leg. This technique requires something that I have never been pleased about. Twisting the penis. It has to be twisted in order to rest the dorsal side on the leg and expose the ventral side up. But this creates an effect of a “bundled” stretch to some degree.

Therefore recently I thought about just keeping the penis straight out, and applying the Ultrasound from underneath or the ventral side and measure temperature on the septum.

I applied the 4 thermocouples along the septum and proceeded to immediately apply Ultrasound while increasing tension progressively at 200grams every 3 minutes for a total of aprox 20 minutes.

It works. Temperature was easily maintained in the septum at 40-41 degrees. Due to the satisfactory result, starting on my next period it will always be straight out. This I believe will target the septum more efficiently. It becomes a little bit messier with the gel coming from underneath, but nothing that cannot be properly managed.

This was not a session, this was a test. There was no before or after measurements, this experiment had the sole purpose of measuring the temperature in the septum and test the efficacy of this approach.

Will begin a new third Period soon.

Interesting, so you’re still using the pulley system but just straight out, are you using a phantom on the dorsal side?

I’ve been thinking about just hanging with no pulley, while standing and straight down. I have to try it to see if it works, but it’s gonna be a hassle trying to figure out how to hold the things I use on both sides (the phantom dorsal, the standoff ventral, transducers), and also pull testicles back with something so US doesn’t hit them.

No phantom. That was part of the purpose of the test, to get rid of the phantom. It would be more efficient to measure intra urethral temperature this way, but I dont have the materials to do so. At least, I pushed the probes down flush against the septum and temperature was consistent and easily kept at 40-41 degrees.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
No phantom. That was part of the purpose of the test, to get rid of the phantom. It would be more efficient to measure intra urethral temperature this way, but I don’t have the materials to do so. At least, I pushed the probes down flush against the septum and temperature was consistent and easily kept at 40-41 degrees.

That’s fascinating, I read a lot of people who didn’t use their thigh or a phantom had a hard time reaching 40 degrees. I’m thinking it could have something to do with girth, you’re much thicker than most, maybe that’s why it works for you.

Originally Posted by igigi
I just saw my misspelling, I meant to say “gains” instead of “giant” lol. There was not pun intended.

My BPFSL increased 1.5 cm and BPEL 1 cm. I kept the gains.

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