Newbie Gains IPR & Hcg The Journey
I’ve been on this forum for years, mostly as a ghost though my original handle here and on pegym was “pulphero” so my profile now looks less, time wise.
I think I’ve had very good success though that puts me about at where most guys are starting at. I’m going to put some random advice in here.
I’m currently measuring 5.2” BPEL. (My best measurement was 5.6” but I’ll get to that below) As the last penis study from the U.K. Put the average at 5.1” I’m happy as hell considering where I started my journey.
Which is where my advice begins. MEASURE and TAKE PICTURES FROM THE BEGINNING!! I didn’t really believe this PE stuffed worked so I was haphazard about it. This only confuses things and creates doubt later when it starts to work. Also measure close to orgasm as this represents your truest size, measuring prior to this due to EQ or varying arousal level, perhaps because of porn fatigue, can be misleading. Take a goddamn picture of the ruler and the tape. You WILL want these later.
Here’s how things unfolded for me. I had a very small penis. Now my first measurement when I began was a little off for two reasons—I was post chemo and so not generally hale and hearty, and two I didn’t do the bone pressed part very well though I was pretty lean anyway.
That first measurement was 3.5” and that’s not a typo. Now adjusted for those variables I still honestly feel it was less than 4” but maybe more like 3.7 or 3.8. The real problem was how little my flaccid hang was. I found it incredibly hard to do jelqs and if I’m being honest I didn’t try that hard and I jumped into manual stretches and hanging. This was a mistake and if you’re starting out at average I really don’t recommend it. 60-90 days of jelqs is a good start I now see.
But I did what I did. First thing I noticed is my flaccid was so ridiculously small I couldn’t hang weights well. I figured out how to adapt, but because I was using a wrap and a noose (with thick enough wrap I didn’t experience the scary effects of noose hanging) but it was uncomfortable. I realized I didn’t have enough girth to properly perform PE. Even if it wasn’t true, it felt true enough that I did what I did.
I think manual stretches and hanging accounted for my newbie half inch. I was onto clamping only after that. I couldn’t believe I’d made that progress. Literally I just assumed that getting to 4.5” was due to bad measurement on my part. I still have trouble though I know intellectually it happened. This was my lig gain and it happened in about 40-60 days, well within six months anyway. This gain didn’t help my flaccid and I could manually stretch in the shower, but getting in and out of my hanging set up in a crowded house and keeping it private from my wife was a huge hassle. I settled in to clamping.
I’d had a vasectomy and my girth was too slender to use the clamp on my shaft so I started out BTB and I’ve stayed BTB. My girth was right at 4.5” BEG. While hanging I once measured 5.5” but I haven’t measured that since I stopped so I honestly don’t know if it was injury like swelling or if I did it wrong. Be that as it may I regularly got 5” at base and had a 4.7” MEG. This is important for later.
I didn’t measure length, only girth. I didn’t think clamping effected length even though my cock head looked much fuller. My gains were the gains listed above and I was following the “plastic deformation” model theory. For four years I hung in there making no progress. Clamping BTB because I didn’t have enough erect girth to really clamp appropriately. I experienced no problems during this time despite going longer and longer in the clamp to milk more gains. No problems but no gains. I think I was toughening my dick too much for growth.
So late fall of 2017 early 2018 I stumble on Xeno (and some other’s) IPR theory. I read his and BeardedDragon’s reports. I figured what did I have to lose? It’d been years since l’d seen any progress.
I took two months off. I didn’t grow. BUT now it’s very early 2018 and I start again. Again clamping. Two weeks. Here’s what happened.
After week one I added a second clamp. On the base of my shaft and it worked. I was at a solid 5” on my base. That’s my growth. I quit after two weeks and that’s when it got awesome. After a week of rest following this round I edged past 5” in length. No erect girth gain, just length. But holy shit I was “average”—nothing to brag about, but I couldn’t be called “small” anymore holy cow!
The weird thing about girth was I did gain. Not erect, but flaccid. I’d previously measured 3.5” flaccid girth. Now, no matter the time of day I’m somewhere between 4”-4.2” always. Now average flaccid girth is 3.59” so I’m almost a half an inch thicker flaccid than the median.
At this point I started taking cialis every other day. It fixed my flaccid hang and I consistently hand at over 3” but under 4” with the added girth there are times when step out of the shower and think I look “big”—at least respectable. My wife began commenting on my proud hangs😄 and I knew it wasn’t just me.
I’d started telling her I was doing health and EQ exercises to improve blood flow. She said “well it’s made it bigger too.” It’s not bad measuring and it’s not in my head!
Last month I added a very small dose of hcg to my TRT. During this time I measured 5.6” length — but it may have been a bad measurement; as in the middle of sex I took a water break, walked in saw it in the mirror and did a double take. I quickly used my toothbrush to bone press, marked the spot and measured later. Two more times this happened. Since going off the hcg I haven’t gotten more than a 5.226” at best. So I will take a picture today and post it here. Then I’ll go back on the hcg and remeasure and if it’s bigger I’ll post.
Here’s my lessons I’ve learned. Ladies notice length but girth is king. BTB clamping has increased my length. Strangely, when I pushed past 5” I lost girth, by quite a bit and am down to 4.6” MEG and at my base as well! I have no idea what happened.
All of my renewed gains I attribute to IPR. This is what I believe in. The only thing that helped my flaccid hang was cialis — but my flaccid girth shows some growth even when my EG seems to have slipped with the length gains. Hcg may increase my size and I’m experimenting with it again.
I just started my third IRP round. I plan to do 7 1 hour days then rest for 1 month. I will report on gains and I will let people know if the hcg makes a difference or if I screwed up measuring.
The 5.6” EL and 5.5” EG anomalies aside, if you figure a starting of 3.8” EL and 4” EG I have made what to me feels miraculous progress by getting to 5.2” and 4.6” , being larger than average flaccid girth means very little except that saying “larger than average” on ANY measurement for a guy who started off as small as I did feels incredible.
Honestly I don’t know if I have any more gains left. I’ve made the gains most people around here end up calling good. Not my actual measurements which are the starting point for most guys, but in terms of volume gain. I intend to find out over the next couple of months and will log progress here.