Originally Posted by SkinsJB
I didn’t think I was overtraining. My routine isn’t that different from the newbie. Even though I supposedly haven’t been training properly, I’m not exactly a newbie at this. Which is why I beefed up the routine a bit. Even still, I would assume (by reading most of the testimonies on this blog and others) that I should be seeing at least SOME results after almost 4 months of PE. Not counting the additional year or so before these 4 months. The only positive results that I see now is that when I do pump (using a bathmate) the result lasts about a day. Which is much longer than when I started. But I’ll keep going with my 2 day on/ 1 day pump/ 1 day off routine.
Rationalizing beefing up the Newbie Routine well past the maximum from the start is exactly why you aren’t likely to see results. Overtraining is the most common problem there is. I know that *I* can’t do the routine you listed. And that people who do the Newbie Routine see results with a lot less effort.
Honestly it’s counterintuitive. You complain of zero results and when we offer reasons why you shake those reasons off because you still know enough about PE to tell us how it works despite having zero results. I’m not sure how you expect things to be different now, than before in this event.
Overtraining means typically no results and often losses or injury on no particular schedule. And gains can happen in a few months but for some take much longer to happen. And most of the people who had gains in a short period of time do far less than you are doing. None of the factors I’ve observed for growth are present in your routine.
You list a very tough schedule. Your rest days are minimized. Your scale ups are based on a strict schedule of expected gains and seems to have no basis in anything reasonable that I can understand because you haven’t had gains to base the high volume of work you are doing on.
People who gain start slow then scale up based on having had gains and those tapering off and trying to restart them. Most of my newbie observations include people who scale down the Newbie and work at their own pace for a long time before reaching the max number of jelqs, often starting with 5 minutes and not exceeding 15 minutes of jelqs over the course of their time on the Newbie before moving on to devices. Also, I’ve never seen a 3 day on 1 day off schedule as optimum. The most typical routine for a gainer on this forum is 2 days on 1 day off.
Typical penis fatigue of a newbie user here is maximized long before the end of your routine schedule and you exceed what people need to gain in your work patterns. Exceeding the amount of work needed to gain is overtraining and counterproductive.
Your extrapolations of what works in PE do not correlate to observations of typical activity patterns of what has worked for newbies in PE on this forum. I just don’t see how you’ve drawn the conclusions you have AND expect positive results with your current routine. It simply doesn’t add up or make sense to me.
