Wurst's progress log

You have the right one, from my understanding 1.6 is the minimum to use, it’s enough believe me but some use 2 at the same time, I find one enough but I only focus on half my shaft.

Regarding the stress relaxation, in an extender I can reach a max bpfsl in 30mins, with hanging low weight I can reach the same in about 60mins and I prefare the hanging to be honest, just experiment.

I have lost a little in length and girth and I think I have regained already some of that. Also I think the last measurement from 2011 includes a bit of cheating. As far as I can remember after working so hard I wanted it to have grown so badly that I cheated with perspective. Could be that the last measurement was taken sitting in the bed which gives me a little more length. I did measure 20 cm BPEL the other day and just today 19.8 cm. I have measured 19.3 cm 10 days ago which was before I started all this. MEG is a little over 15 cm.

I want to have more length especially because I think it looks nicer and I want to fill out most women and there is the ego part, as well. It looks like there is room for that because as far as I know women haven’t complained about too much length and girth. I don’t know if I bottom out. I remember only one time I bottomed out. Also my NBPEL is about 18 cm and normally I am not 100% erect when having sex. Don’t know why there is such a big gap between BPEL and NBPEL as I am slim. The problem is I have sex only very rarely which I want to change :) No other bad things to report when it comes to sex. It is quite the opposite.

Okey, somehow accidentally I got into thinking you were already in the extender.

The stress relaxation and creep are two different mechanism of collagenous tissue elongation under the stretch.

Creep happens when the load is pulling constantly stressing the tissue . Stress -relaxation is phenomena happening when the tissue is stretched to certain strain and fixed there. After some minutes the tissue relaxes and the stress subsides. After that more strain can be adjusted with same load.

Stress relaxation can produce the same elongation but it seems to come in shorter time than with creep.
Slider type extenders are stress -relaxation based and spring load extender tend to produce creep. With still at low load and lots of free telescope movement left kind a hybrid.

I have been using compromised load which I know can produce the maximal strain. To be sure of exploiting everything , the incremental loading is better.

Tutt has been fully focused on strain driven system. He have the equipment with load cell and accurate length adjustment and based on these variables he can control the elongation by strain measurement. He increases the strain managed by strain rate, introducing more strain at given timeline.
This would be the ultimate method but involves very special equipment.

You can do it with this one. Having 2.0 w/ cm^2 would make it quicker.

Igigi and me are runnign nowadays with two 1.6 w/cm^2 US Pros as a dual setup.

Do you have the same US device? What results have you gotten? Do you only heat up half your shaft because you have trouble maintaining 40°C+?

I guess you don’t know the load in the extender but you assume it is higher than what you use when hanging? What is the difference in mm after the conditioning set?

I am thinking of experimenting using the extender also for about an hour because I can do that while having breakfast :) and then I will go to US hanging. I would need to add a scale to that setup, though.

I don’t know if I got you right. Creep means the tissue is constantly stretched to the max?
With stress relaxation can you stretch it to the “max” or should it always be a little less in order for the tissue to give in?

What would I have to do to do it stress-relaxation based? I still don’t get it.

What does compromised load mean?

Wurst, I think the 2.0 number was discussed more with the 3 MHz units.
As Kyrpa said, with the 1 MHz units it has been pretty much all at 1.6 w/cm2.

You have the correct US device… do not stress!
You have this.

Stress relaxation is a decrease in stress under constant strain. Strain is fixed as a constant and when kept in this situation after few minutes the stress subsides and tissue can be elongated further by reloading the stress element.
Typical example being extender without springs, but using threaded pins to adjust the strain.

Creep is an increased tendency toward more strain with no change in stress, the load pulling constantly. Load being either by spring load or hanging weight the principle is to create creep.

Collagenous structures have these stress relaxation properties very pronounced as they tend to stiffen and form internal stress when stretched. Kept in the stretched length the stress decreases after some time allowing the structure elongate further.

I wouldn´t use term max because the strain is always relative to the time under given load.
As we should not use excessive loads, we can adjust the strain by applying given load and fix the shaft in to this unknown strain at each every reloading step.

I have used load which is a iteration of the values giving the best strain percentage and using this load all the way. So it is a compromise for making this simpler, without the need for incremental loading. But the optimal way to stretch these kind of tissues remains to be increasing either load or strain at very low rate.

Hey wurst, you have the correct device, US Pro 2000 Second Edition. I use 2 of them simultaneously, Kyrpa does the same. I use one on half of my shaft and the other on the second half, keeping them as far from each other as possible the whole time.

I would imagine that anybody with a BPFSL over 19ish cm will need 2 transducers of these specifications in order to ensure optimal constant temperature.

Thank you all for your support. It is so good to help each other out. I think I got it, now. I got it before but I got confused with the extender and how they work and how it applies to the different stretching models.

Yesterday I did the first try with the US device. The setup was not laid out well, it was just for some experimentation as I did not have so much time. It was a mess pretty much and I am not talking about the gel ^^ I am talking about load management. I started with Pre-BPFSL=20.7 cm end ended with 21.1 cm.

Today I did a proper run. I have totally changed the load system.

Setup: I was sitting at a desk with a cranks handle attached to it. I was using the vac cup and attached a scale and a cord to it. The cord runs through a pulley that is attached to the ceiling behind me and back to the cranks handle. The position is over the shoulder, not straight up but it is running between the armpit. I did it this way in order to apply the US ventrally to focus the energy on the cord which is situated dorsally. The penis touches the area between my leg and my torso. There is full contact so a lot of the energy ends up on the cord. I will take temp measurements next time.

The beauty of this system is that I can manage the load easily by turning the handle and measure the load with the scale. It is so comfortable. This way I am also making use of stress relaxation. After 5 min the load goes down about 0.3 kg due to the relaxation process. Did the other guys experience something similar?

Pre-BPFSL= 20.8 cm

Conditioning phase (30 min):
Started with 1.5 kg and increased weight every 5 min so after the first 5 min I would go from 1.2 kg
(less load due to stress relaxation) to 2.0 kg, then up to 2.5 kg and readjusted every 5 min but
Never went above 2.5 kg. Tomorrow I will add only 0.25 kg every 5 minutes.

In order to understand what does what and how I can improve the system I measured after this
Phase. I got a BPFSL= 21.1. That is an increase of 0.3 mm.

US Phase (30 min):
I got back into the hanging and started from 2 kg and applied the US. After 10 min in I was at 2.5
Kg and then increased the load every 5 min until 4.5 kg. The last 10 min were too much I think
Because I got pretty sore in the shaft. Tomorrow I will not go above 3.5 kg.

Cool-down phase (10):
I planned to cool down with the same load (4.5 kg) but couldn’t. Some tissue beneath my balls on
The left hand side (I was hanging over the shoulder to the right) was becoming too sore so I
Lowered the load. At the end I was at 2.5 kg or something.

I measured instantly Post-BPFSL= 21.1 cm
That is the same as right after the conditioning phase. I was a little disappointed and figured I need to change something. The dick was still pretty sore and I could feel that it was not relaxed but rather tough. I am pretty sure that was due to the soreness.

10 min later I measured again and it went up to 21.3. Strain = 2.4 By then my dick was much more relaxed. So there it is. All that is telling me I need to avoid soreness. In order to do so I will lower the maximum weight to 3.5 kg. During the US phase and the cool-down.

I am thinking of using another method of measuring because the glans is just too flexible. It is hard to get accurate numbers to rely on. I try to engorge it with pressure to the max every time but still, I think there are minor changes. I would measure right at the coronal ridge, then.

To sum it up, it looks encouraging as I have reached a new max post-BPFSL. Not sure how reliable that is but to me it is clearly beyond what I have gotten so far. I just need to fine-tune things and adjust to my personal needs.

I forgot to mention that I have a pretty flexible cord attached to the scale (scale attached to the penis) so it makes up for movements of my body such as breathing. It doesn’t do it 100% as the load does change a little but still it is better than without.

Great, you are getting there. It is all up to fine tune the protocol.

About the soreness, it is fifth consecutive day of stretching the member. It is just too much no matter how it is produced.

Try measuring behind the glans on the coronal sulcus to monitor the workout efficiency. That is what will give you consistent results. Keep another journal on actual BPFSL, which is measured always at relaxed state on the resting days for the records.

I had the same thought but will do one more session tomorrow with less weight and then 2 days off. I am just too eager to do one more proper workout and see the outcome.

WIll do!