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Wurst's progress log

Wurst's progress log with ultrasound assisted protocol

This is my first public progress log. I want to document my journey with the new Ultrasound (US) assisted protocol that Kyrka, Tutt, Manko and others have been developing based on scientific studies and turned into experimental practice. This is the least I can do for the community after having learned so much from you. Thank you so much for your contributions. You have been so open and patient in sharing your experiences and knowledge. I am very thankful to be part of this new chapter.

The US device is underway and once I got it, I will start the protocol and stick to the core, documenting data and experiences. I am open to changes and innovations during the journey, though, and will experiment with that according to my best knowledge. I ordered the US Pro 2000 Pro Second edition which has been proven to work for people. I will stick to what has worked for most and go from there making it as replicable as possible.

The thread that this is based on the most is Kyrpas progress log, in which you can learn the most. It is totally worth the read and in my opinion necessary if you want to get it work properly. Understanding is important before you jump into it. —> Gaining volume with Kyrpa
Also, it is just so interesting to see the whole concept evolve as it has still been evolving like everything else. That is the reason why I am open to changes. I want it to be optimized as much as possible, tweaking every variable to make it as simple and effective as possible for everyone to follow. I hope I can contribute to this.

I have started PE in 2006, gained pretty fast in the beginning and the length gains came to a halt. I tried a lot of things to get it to progress, spending long hours and using high loads but length just stopped. This is very likely due to the famous “septum”, also known as the cord that becomes the bottleneck sooner or later which hinders further length gains. It has been discussed in detail on this website.

With this US assisted protocol you can focus on this structure and further elongate it. More on it in Kyrpas thread.

Let the journey begin .. Chapter 2 .. :)


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

-- For people who stopped gaining length --> The Long Game: Learning with Longerstretch, Key Principles to Make Sustained Growth -- Progress log: Wurst's progress log --


Last edited by wurst : 11-05-2020 at .

Taking accurate measurements (BPFSL) is especially important with this method. It needs to be done continuously in order to track the process and see what is working and what is not and when to take appropriate action such as a deconditioning break.

On 10.30.20 I measured 20,4 cm BPFSL. I got into my new extender (https://de.aliexpress.com/item/4000…2574c4dk 6g1Qk) which resembled the Penimaster Pro (PMP) if I am not mistaken. After 15 min in the extender with quite a high load, I measured 20,8 cm. This experiment was mainly done to check out the extender. It wasn’t done for the protocol.

On that day I measured:
Pre-BPFSL: 20,4 cm
Post-BPFSL: 20.8 CM
BPEL: 19,3 cm
FL 13,5 cm

BSG: 17,2 cm
MSG: 15,2 cm
TSG: 13,1 cm


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

-- For people who stopped gaining length --> The Long Game: Learning with Longerstretch, Key Principles to Make Sustained Growth -- Progress log: Wurst's progress log --

Load for the conditioning stretch 1

It is time to find out the appropriate load for the conditioning stretch (phase 1 of the protocol).

On 11.04.20
I hung for 30 min SO with the vacuum cup of the extender at 1 kg load.

Pre-BPFSL: 20,45 cm (took 2 measurements and took the average)
Post-BPFSL: 20,4 cm
Strain: ~0%

Apparently this load is not enough :) Not surprising, though.

Interestingly, I measured BPEL again and got to 20 cm which +0,7 cm compared to 5 days ago. Partly it is because of better EQ and another part might be that I have been using the extender in 30 days for 30 min. This might be lost gains coming back as well. Pretty fast, though. I keep an eye on that.


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

-- For people who stopped gaining length --> The Long Game: Learning with Longerstretch, Key Principles to Make Sustained Growth -- Progress log: Wurst's progress log --

Load for the conditioning stretch 2

On 10.05.20 I measured:

Load: 1,5 kg
Duration: 30 min
Method: hanging with vacuum cup
Position: straight out (so)

Pre-BPFSL: 20,4 cm —> seems to be my starting point, now, as I can repeatedly measure it
Post- BPFSL: 20,55 cm —> compared to the 1 kg from yesterday, I gained slightly (0,15 cm)
Strain: 0,74%

Strain is measured: [(Post-BPSFL÷pre-BPSFL)-1]×100


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

-- For people who stopped gaining length --> The Long Game: Learning with Longerstretch, Key Principles to Make Sustained Growth -- Progress log: Wurst's progress log --

Originally Posted by wurst
On 10.05.20 I measured:

Load: 1,5 kg
Duration: 30 min
Method: hanging with vacuum cup
Position: straight out (so)

Pre-BPFSL: 20,4 cm —> seems to be my starting point, now, as I can repeatedly measure it
Post- BPFSL: 20,55 cm —> compared to the 1 kg from yesterday, I gained slightly (0,15 cm)
Strain: 0,74%

Strain is measured: [(Post-BPSFL÷pre-BPSFL)-1]×100

Yes, the 30 minutes test would be useful to see the threshold load for you. After certain load you are not going to have any advantage of putting more load.
Presumbtion is the load being under 3 kg.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Protocol I am going to do

This is how I am going to structure the routine. It is not fixed, yet, but the core is established. It is subject to minor changes and always will be.

Conditioning phase: 20-30 minutes of stress relaxation probably with IR lamp to warm up tissues after I have reached pre-BPFSL which could be 1,5 kg. I will start with x KG and increase it incrementally every 5 min to the load I am going to find out soon.

Ultrasound hanging: 20-30 min hanging with ultrasound. Over the leg (OTL) 10-15 min each leg, dorsal side of dick on the leg so the ultrasound can be applied ventrally. This makes sure the power is concentrated on the septum, the bottleneck. I am not sure about the max load, yet. Hopefully not more than 3 kg. I will do it based on strain.

Cool down phase: 10-30 minutes using the same weight as at the end of the ultrasound hanging phase. I might experiment cooling down decrementally using IR, increasing distance of IR every few minutes until no more IR, only room temperature for at least 10 min. I have the feeling cooling down should be done in little steps just like adding weight in the first and second phase. To me this is a universal law. It works based on evolution which is little by little, not revolution. I have not found or looked for a scientific paper to back it up. It could be interesting to measure BPFSL 1 hour, 3 hours and 6 hours post routine and compare methods (normal cool down and “delayed” cool down).


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

-- For people who stopped gaining length --> The Long Game: Learning with Longerstretch, Key Principles to Make Sustained Growth -- Progress log: Wurst's progress log --

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Yes, the 30 minutes test would be useful to see the threshold load for you. After certain load you are not going to have any advantage of putting more load.
Presumbtion is the load being under 3 kg.

Exactly .. I am looking for the threshold load. After that no more advantage, only disadvantage. Why is the presumption that the load has to be under 3 kg? I thought that would be highly individual. Is it based on a calculation?


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

-- For people who stopped gaining length --> The Long Game: Learning with Longerstretch, Key Principles to Make Sustained Growth -- Progress log: Wurst's progress log --

Originally Posted by wurst
Exactly .. I am looking for the threshold load. After that no more advantage, only disadvantage. Why is the presumption that the load has to be under 3 kg? I thought that would be highly individual. Is it based on a calculation?

Well, it seems to be reasonable to assume so, after seeing few of these tests for now. It is individual but the range seems to be rather narrow.
Going for step too far with load the stiffening of the tissues resist further elongtion.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Well, it seems to be reasonable to assume so, after seeing few of these tests for now. It is individual but the range seems to be rather narrow.
Going for step too far with load the stiffening of the tissues resist further elongtion.

Interesting, that it is such a narrow range and happy to hear that as I try to avoid going high as much as possible. I remember Manko has used high loads but he took a slightly different approach back then.


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

-- For people who stopped gaining length --> The Long Game: Learning with Longerstretch, Key Principles to Make Sustained Growth -- Progress log: Wurst's progress log --

Originally Posted by wurst
Interesting, that it is such a narrow range and happy to hear that as I try to avoid going high as much as possible. I remember Manko has used high loads but he took a slightly different approach back then.

That is why we need to test the individual load.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

10.06.20: Method and results

Load: 2,0 kg
Duration: 30 min
Method: hanging with vacuum cup
Position: straight out (so)

Pre-BPFSL: 20.45 cm
Post- BPFSL: 20.75 cm —> compared to the 1.5 kg from yesterday, I gained 0.2 cm more
Strain: 1,47% —> yesterday: 0.74% with 0.5 kg less

I go beyond current BPFSL from 1.5 kg and can further increase with a load of 2.0 kg. Happy to see increases at such a low load and I suspect I will settle for a similar load like most people which is around 3 kg for the conditioning phase.


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

-- For people who stopped gaining length --> The Long Game: Learning with Longerstretch, Key Principles to Make Sustained Growth -- Progress log: Wurst's progress log --

Goal

As far as my goal is concerned, I don’t have a fixed number on my mind. I just want a longer dick that fills up most women without hurting them. I don’t want to cause pain so if I were reasonable I would stop where I am but oh well .. As of now, I am going for 19 cm NBPEL, because I guess 20 cm could be troublesome for too many. Already with 19 cm it is boarderline. I will probably not cement those gains for good. Instead I want to have the chance to let it decrease a little in case I run into a woman that cannot handle it.

— With great power comes great responsibility —

Also I want a longer dick because in my opinion, it would look better on me :) and since I have a thick cock I could use more length to make it look more proportional. So it has to do with aesthetics for me, as well.

In any case, I will be hooked when I have gone beyond my max length and can add more as I go.

Another goal is to have a more pronounced glans and more pronounced CS starting from the middle of the shaft up to the top. Below the middle it is already quite visible and as it approaches the top it kind of merges with the CC’s. I want it clearly and evenly pronounced.

Another goal is to have an evenly distributed girth. Mine is tapered. It is only noticeable for me I guess but I would want it more even. A little tapered is good because then it is easier to slide it into a woman and still the woman can benefit from the big girth.

And of course, rock hard erections and an overall good health :)

I will go for the length goal first. If everything works out well, I should be there within half a year. We will see.


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

-- For people who stopped gaining length --> The Long Game: Learning with Longerstretch, Key Principles to Make Sustained Growth -- Progress log: Wurst's progress log --


Last edited by wurst : 11-06-2020 at .

Vibrations

I wonder what light vibrations could do and if it could enhance the protocol. I am trying to think of ways to optimize it taking the established core as a basis, ever-evolving. There are so many things that can be changed and added. Knowing that as it is it works well gives a lot of room for improvement.

Maybe vibrations have the same underlying principle as cyclic stretching. Same principle, different scale and time cycle. In any case, you are putting energy (waves) into the penile system.

I am afraid I won’t be able to really compare because I want to start with the fundamentals and by the time I have reached cycle 2 or 3 I have reached my length goal :) However, I would be curious to see someone who wants a lot more length do it.


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

-- For people who stopped gaining length --> The Long Game: Learning with Longerstretch, Key Principles to Make Sustained Growth -- Progress log: Wurst's progress log --

Originally Posted by wurst
I am afraid I won’t be able to really compare because I want to start with the fundamentals and by the time I have reached cycle 2 or 3 I have reached my length goal :) However, I would be curious to see someone who wants a lot more length do it.

Of course, I will be able to compare. I will just compare strain measurements between different workouts. I was thinking of comparing whole cycles (several weeks) but that is not necessary.


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

-- For people who stopped gaining length --> The Long Game: Learning with Longerstretch, Key Principles to Make Sustained Growth -- Progress log: Wurst's progress log --

Originally Posted by wurst
Maybe vibrations have the same underlying principle as cyclic stretching. Same principle, different scale and time cycle. In any case, you are putting energy (waves) into the penile system.

Not the same but similar in the way that there is a load increase followed by a decrease, then an increase, and so on. From that perspective, it is cyclic.


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

-- For people who stopped gaining length --> The Long Game: Learning with Longerstretch, Key Principles to Make Sustained Growth -- Progress log: Wurst's progress log --

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