CLINIMAX - premature ejaculation...?

I found this product:

http://www.climinax.com

"Best cure for premature ejaculation."

It says:

Climinax’s proprietary all-natural blend of ingredients: Pyridoxine (one of the compounds that can also be called vitamin B6), Folic Acid (another naturally occuring B vitamin), Passiflora Coerulea Leaf Extract, Griffonia Seed Extract, and more, all work together to naturally increase the amount of your serotonin levels

As I can see it uses 5-HTP as base and some other ingredients. Is there anyone who have tried it? How it works and how much different it may be from simple 5-HTP?

Here’s what I found on a search thru google. I don’t know if this site is reputable or not. This guy gives it 4.5 out of 5 stars. Let me know if it works for you.

Thanks. I would buy it right away but I live in Europe. Secondly it is expensive…that is why I look for opinion of others. It looks like one can do the similar product at home:

Main Ingredients:
Vitamin B6 as Pyidoxal-5-Phosphate (15 mg)
Folate as Folate Acid (400mg)
Blue Passion Flower Extract 4:1 Passiflora Coerulea leaf (150mg)
L-Arginine HCL (100mg)
Griffonia Seed Extract 4:1 (100mg)
Pyidoxine HCL (20mg)
Chrysin (5mg)

It would be much cheaper. As I can see main ingredient is Griffonia Seed (5-HTP). Vitamin B6 helps nervous system work better while ‘Passiflora Coerulea’ makes people relaxed….it is interesting as it is often used to help with side effects of amphetamine and this is what you often receive when serotonin level is to high(you get nervous, scary, hands are shaking).

Now, the question is following - is it worth anything? Does this combination works any better than simple 5-HTP ?

Anyone? I thought that premature ejaculation has always been big problem for many guys here and it seems now like nobody cares about this drug/combination ;)

I care about it but I’m just thinking that it is another drug that claims to work but won’t. I ran into the same thing with Orexis.

As far as I can see Orexis is something different. It is for ‘better erection’. We do not know any data behind this drug. It is different with 5-HTP which is base ingredient of Clinimax..we all know that higher levels of serotonin should help control ejaculation. When taking Paxil I had no problem with control. The question is if Clinimax is any better than single 5-HTP?

As to Orexis I can see now ingredients:

Proprietary Blend 1250mg (Tribulus Terrestris, Epimedium Sagittum, Muira Puama, Panax Ginseng, Catuaba Bark Extract, Damiana (Turnera aphrodisiaca), Yohimbe Extract )

How can one claim that their drug helps to control orgasm when it increases T levels at the same time? The higher level of testosterone the higher libido. High libido is ultimate enemy of premature ejaculators..at least in my case it works like this. I remember that when I was taking ‘T’ for bodybuilding I could have sex 3-4 times a day…No way I could control my orgasm! I could not stop fu…ing nor masturbating even for single day!

After about a month of taking the Orexis, my libido wasn’t any higher, which was why I was taking it in the first place. It was causing me to be super sensitive. I couldn’t even edge for more than a couple of minutes.

In my own case ‘sensitivity’ and ‘libido’ is exactly the same. I can not imagine myself being ‘horny’(high libido) and lasting long in the bed. ‘Easy cummers’ sometimes feel like they have low libido and high sensitivity but in my opinion it is because they are afraid of sex as they do not want to end up quickly ‘again’. But libido is still ‘there’ and it wants to find a way ‘out of brain’ by bringing orgasm quickly.

See I was just the opposite. Back when I had a super high libido, I could last forever in bed. But in the last 5 years my libido has crashed and I’m a quick cummer.

It’s not going to make any difference any way because my 2 year relationship with my fiance ended last weekend. If there is any hope of rekindling that, then I might give this Clinimax a try.

I actually found another product that seems to have the same ingredients as climinax but is more than half the price.

Thanks-very interesting info can be found there…

‘There is definitive medical and scientific evidence referenced by The National Library Of Medicine (PubMed) [111 articles], that elevated levels of dopamine can have a profound negative impact on ejaculatory control in men and show that drugs which stimulate dopamine receptors can actually cause premature ejaculation. As early as 1972, it was reported in Life Science Journal “that dopamine is the central mediator of emission of seminal fluid in male rats”. Furthermore, there are over [492 articles] published in the medical literature that links elevated dopamine neurotransmission with aggravating existing premature ejaculation or even causing early ejaculation in men who otherwise had no difficulties with maintaining ejaculatory control.

Deferol� has been specially formulated to temporarily minimize the negative influence of elevated dopamine in men without having any effect on natural testosterone levels. Pyridoxine (vitamin B-6) and pyridoxal 5-phosphate (active form of vitamin B-6) serve dual roles in the patented Deferol� formulation because they help to minimize unwanted dopamine influence (by accelerating dopamine metabolism/breakdown) while also optimizing the conversion of L-5-HTP to serotonin. ‘

I already take 50mg of 5-HTP every day. I plan to take additional 50 - 100mg before sex when my GF arrives. I have also bought today Passiflora extract(fluid) and B6. It all costed not more that $30. I plan to try it next week. I know I can control my orgasm with high levels of serotonin but high levels of serotonin make me anxious and feel like ‘out of here’. I hope Passiflora will help with it.

Yea, I was wondering about Deforal myself. Anybody?

Can I get 5-HTP at wal-mart or any local drug store or do I need a prescription?

I do not know if you can buy it at Wal-Mart…I live in Europe. However I am sure you do not need prescription for this. My last 5-HTP comes from Kaizen-I am sure you can but it online(or any other 5-HTP):