Originally Posted by marinera
Natural PE is not a medical procedure. Priapus shot is. So the lack of any medical proofs should be a concern. What if you get a cancer injecting that shit in your penis?
That shit you are referring to is used widely by the orthopedic society if I am not mistaken. So, it is not an entirely experimental substance with the potential of giving you cancer. Besides, my point was not to say that you should not do research before getting a medical procedure. When discussing this kind of stuff, you should be more concerned about the anecdotal evidence, rather than the number of published medical papers. If it was the contrary, none of us would be here. So we should ask him to bring the so called other doctors to the forums, and ask their opinion on the subject. We should ask him to find other patients who had had success with this procedure. I think the doctor would be willing to try this with a control group already practicing PE, without charge.
I think this guy has a lot of potential to officially dispel this nonsense around human sexuality like:
* Female orgasm is only clitorally induced and vaginal orgasm is actually clitoral orgasm (bullcrap)
* That the vagina is not sensitive beyond x inches (maybe to touch, but definitely not to pressure)
* Therefore penis size/vaginal tightness has nothing to do with the variety, intensity or the easiness of female orgasm (bullcrap)
* And finally that penis size cannot be improved.
This treatment would invalidate all this at once if proven in the medical community. There was only andropenis who could back up their claims with published articles. But this is more than that. This Runels guy is the first medical doctor with a medical invention (vampire facelift, which by the way made into the mainstream) and which I’ve seen to grasp the wisdom that we (at least me) have attained here over the years. I am talking about the big impact penis size, erectile quality, vaginal tone have on orgasm, and that all can be improved.
This is what he wrote in 2012 when the medical community was busy surveying 323 Czech students about the relation between penile length and vaginal orgasm:
"Penis size and intensity of female orgasm. Any correlation?
RetR0 Vir@l asked 1 year ago
Now I know a lot of you are gonna be like ‘Oh GOD! Not another one.’ but am genuinely curious about something else. Am okay with my size around 6x6 and am planning to get a sex toy for me and my girlfriend. She has not been with too many guys and says my size is perfect for her which I believe but I sometimes feel like she would enjoy a more fuller feeling. I have been reading about these cock sleeves, 9x6, 9x7, and the comments from the guys who have bought them are amazing! They all talking bout how the WAGS have mind blowing multiple orgasms from as little as 6 strokes with the sleeves on and how they beg for more. Or how the ladies tell them their actual size is enough but scream and squirt like never before once the sleeves come on, how they beg for more and can't wait for the next pounding even for the ladies who previously did with a lot less sex. Some women even start to have sex only when the sleeve is on. [emphasis mine]
So my question is, is it the psychological pleasure due to the increase in size like he is a bigger man now, the staying power as the man is desensitized hence can last longer, the feeling of being penetrated by someone else(the women say the sleeves feel very real), the length hitting on the A-spot or the girth rubbing on the g-spot, the feeling of being filled? And if it is the sum total of all these, which is most important? And which the least?
Or are most of the comments a marketing gimmick from the makers themselves.
I want to get my gf a nice gift so help me out. Especially the ladies."
Charles Runels, MDanswered1 year ago
"Truth is that for about 1 in 10 women, the penis is completely irrelevant because they tend to be more homosexual. Then there’s about 10% who have a very small vagina, and a member the size of yours would actually hurt. Then you’ve got about 10% who just want the biggest possible (just like some guys are hung up on the biggest breasts). The other 70% are completely happy with anything near the normal range that works and that’s attached to man worth sleeping with.
For most, a 6" circumference would feel "just right." One study showed that the favorite size for most women is 6" in circumference and 8" long. But, again, it varies greatly with the woman.
Best, way to find out about your lover is to simply be honest and open enough to try it out. There’s just no way to know otherwise. The stats to not predict any one particular woman. Even with the same woman, orgasms can be like snow flakes—no two alike.
If you want another way to give her extra pleasure.. These two procedures are also becoming more popular (because they work):
1. The O-Shot (R) makes her feel more so that a smaller penis feels larger. I’ve even had women tell me that before the shot they preferred a larger penis, then after the shot a smaller penis felt better.
2. The Priapus Shot (R) now offers the most advanced way to cause an increase in size.
Both use platelet-derived growth factors to stimulate multi-potent stem cells to generate new tissue.
But, the short answer to your question, is to don’t depend on this forum! Go buy one, put it on, then ask your lover. The reason the sleeve might feel better or WORSE depends upon the woman and on you! Do you have premature ejaculation without it? Does she enjoy more girth or find it painful?
The answer will come from her. The best new is that just because you want to know the answer for her identifies you as a potentially amazing lover (surprisingly many men still think every woman responds the same).
IMPORTANT: You must make it safe for her to give you an honest answer. Are you brave enough for the truth without getting your feelings hurt? If not, then don’t ask.
Hope this helps.
Peace & health,
Charles
Charles Runels, MD
Source:
Priapus Shot® | P-Shot® | Official Website - Priapus Shot®
Http://OShot.info"
Very good answer (minus the advertisment maybe). At least he’s not one of those parrots who keep saying that its psychological and it is because there is more pressure on the clitoris and etc.
This is the oldest surviving penis enlargement forum and we (actually you) are entitled to order to them to be summoned here at once. The doctors should be happy to get the chance to prove this to you. Runels actually posted in the other enlargement forum IIRC.
And an FDA case actually is a positive sign on my behalf. Do you think that people who are smart enough to become medical practitioners, the top ones who feed this kind of information into the mainstream, cannot tell whether or not penis size matters to female orgasm? That they actually believe this shit (the four points mentioned above) for themselves?
I don’t think so. Some how the people who run the institutions like FDA and their counterparts want humanity to be confused and desperate about sexuality. But this is a whole other issue.
And finally, there is some medical proof. This procedure clearly works on the face and joints and etc. And from what I read I can say that this thing would most probably work for the vagina. The mechanism for the loss of tone in the vagina is not much different from the face as far as I understand. But I am no expert on this.
Originally Posted by marinera
Beside that, it’s not that because the ‘official’ science is wrong on something (or has nothing to say about) than we should believe to every bullshit, from witches to santa claus.
Yeah.