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Length vs. Girth: The True Debate

I searched around some more and now I actually think cervical penetration is possible. There is some fetish kink out there where they do it with a speculum and additional gyno instruments. The women even seemed to be enjoying it, at least with 1-2 cm dilation. It would take training on the woman’s part to gradually stretch the cervix to allow for greater sizes. Probably a lot of training over a long period of time, and probably not entirely healthy or safe for her.

Also saw some scattered anecdotes of men and women who had been to the doctor because of sex problems, and their Doc told them there was cervical penetration going on.

So reach for the stars swaffel!


Before 5.5" x 4.1" ///////// Now 7.4" x 4.9"

Originally Posted by 10&Then
Ummmm, unfortunately I would have to disagree. I think caring about what women want is exactly why 90% of us do PE in the first place.

I have to disagree with this point. Truth is we never fucking know what women want. If we did we would have a lot less headaches in general. When it come to PE, I think most of us here are really doing it for ourselves. We want to be the biggest she’s ever had or bigger than her ex or whatever. It seems most people’s reasons for being here revolve around what we think she wants.

Also just like every dick is different so is every vagina. So a long skinny dick is actually the perfect dick for someone. Just like a short fat one would be for someone else.

Originally Posted by AndyB123
I have to disagree with this point. Truth is we never fucking know what women want. If we did we would have a lot less headaches in general. When it come to PE, I think most of us here are really doing it for ourselves. We want to be the biggest she’s ever had or bigger than her ex or whatever. It seems most people’s reasons for being here revolve around what we think she wants.

Also just like every dick is different so is every vagina. So a long skinny dick is actually the perfect dick for someone. Just like a short fat one would be for someone else.


Every woman in my family agree with me. Men don’t know what women want because not even women know what women want.


Stats 7/7/2017- 8.2 BPEL 5.3 MSEG

Picture thread- Some pictures for inspiration.

holy fuck what did i just read. that was beyond awesome.

BD for how long have you been PEing? (not sure if this is an actual term)


6.3 x 5 (7 Sep 2017) > manuals > 6.8 x 5 (11 May 2018)

6.8 x 5 (18 Apr 2024) > vac extender > ...

diary (w/ pics) And this is how it starts

I agree that women don’t know what they want. That said the feedback that we get as a change in response to our progress, that is very useful information.

This is an amazing thread in that regard.


Big cock, tight abs, fit body, strong mind.

It’s not about length nor girth.

I will explain why

I have slept with 6 woman I’m 23 now.

It’s all about the penis hardness, width, stamina, lasting. (4 main factors)

It should be really hard and be bend towards your navel as far as possible.

I don’t have a large penis it’s only 5.1/13cm in length, 4.72 circumference but my width (1.88inches/4.8cm) (which is alot higher then average from what I have seen in this forum)

In missionary you can use the wideness and hardness for the upper wall, all girls I have slept with orgasm between 10-30min in missionary with me.

I also have low penis sensitivity which means I can last forever with good stamina but can’t get hard easily, which is why I use viagra.

There are the 4 main factors for woman trust me. Penis size wise most important: Width

Originally Posted by Vladimir23
It’s not about length nor girth.

I will explain why

I have slept with 6 woman I’m 23 now.

It’s all about the penis hardness, width, stamina, lasting. (4 main factors)

It should be really hard and be bend towards your navel as far as possible.

I don’t have a large penis it’s only 5.1/13cm in length, 4.72 circumference but my width (1.88inches/4.8cm) (which is alot higher then average from what I have seen in this forum)

In missionary you can use the wideness and hardness for the upper wall, all girls I have slept with orgasm between 10-30min in missionary with me.

I also have low penis sensitivity which means I can last forever with good stamina but can’t get hard easily, which is why I use viagra.

There are the 4 main factors for woman trust me. Penis size wise most important: Width

Please check your measurements. Centimeters and Inches are NOT interchangable and what you’ve described doesn’t make sense unless you have all the numbers in inches.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.

Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
Please check your measurements. Centimeters and Inches are NOT interchangable and what you’ve described doesn’t make sense unless you have all the numbers in inches.

I have used google cm to inches converter, so the measurements are correct.

5.11 length
4.72 circumference
1.89 side width

I do not know why it doesn’t make any sense to you

Originally Posted by Vladimir23

I don’t have a large penis it’s only 5.1/13cm in length, 4.72 circumference but my width (1.88inches/4.8cm) (which is alot higher then average from what I have seen in this forum)

I underline what was in the original post. Please, keep units consistent. Do not switch between cm and in. This is confusing.

Additionally, 6 women is not a wide pool enough to claim to have the master plan on how to please all women. That is arrogant at best and disingenuous at worst.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.


Last edited by thoughtfulgold : 09-20-2017 at . Reason: clarity

Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
I underline what was in the original post. Please, keep units consistent. Do not switch between cm and in. This is confusing.

Additionally, 6 women is not a wide pool enough to claim to have the master plan on how to please all women. That is arrogant at best and disingenuous at worst.

Well I’ve done some research, from the research I gathered the following information: they would prefer smaller rock hard penis then bigger one that is softer. They also preferred width more and not circumference as it’s more stimulating for the clitoris.

All woman told me I was good in bed. I’ve also never done any penis growing exercises but I’m planning to do it, but I’m scared that my penis won’t be rock hard anymore. The definition of rock hard for me is that when its in erect position you can’t move it as easily to the sides or down.

what do you mean by width? the number that appears when you put the ruler on top of the penis measuring left side to right instead of belly to glans?

anyway, I disagree with you. of course length and girth matters. the things you said are. indeed factors but the biggest is psychology. when you know when to slow down, when to hold her down, when to make a fake jon snow accent and ask her to call you winter


6.3 x 5 (7 Sep 2017) > manuals > 6.8 x 5 (11 May 2018)

6.8 x 5 (18 Apr 2024) > vac extender > ...

diary (w/ pics) And this is how it starts

Originally Posted by alexsub0
What do you mean by width? The number that appears when you put the ruler on top of the penis measuring left side to right instead of belly to glans?

Anyway, I disagree with you. Of course length and girth matters. The things you said are. Indeed factors but the biggest is psychology. When you know when to slow down, when to hold her down, when to make a fake jon snow accent and ask her to call you winter

Yes ruler or caliper , I disagree with you. Woman don’t want you to slow down, they want to be fucked hard non stop without the penis slipping out, and they want to be held hard so they can’t move. Trust me on this.

Originally Posted by Vladimir23
Yes ruler or caliper , I disagree with you. Woman don’t want you to slow down, they want to be fucked hard non stop without the penis slipping out, and they want to be held hard so they can’t move. Trust me on this.

You have so much to learn. Live a little and you’ll understand exactly what I mean.


Started 7.75x5.75

Currently: 9.75bpX6.75eg My Picture Thread

Goal:10.0bpX7.25mseg Building a thicker unit, click by click, pump by pump, jelq by jelq!

Originally Posted by Titleist
You have so much to learn. Live a little and you’ll understand exactly what I mean.

He has had sex with 6 women. Obviously he’s a master lover and we all need to follow his example. I certainly wouldn’t be offering advice to one as talented as he is. He knows what women want. For certain.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.

Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
He has had sex with 6 women. Obviously he’s a master lover and we all need to follow his example. I certainly wouldn’t be offering advice to one as talented as he is. He knows what women want. For certain.

He’s 23 and grew up in the porn age. Women just want to be pounded and fucked hard in his world. There will be lessons ahead.


Started 7.75x5.75

Currently: 9.75bpX6.75eg My Picture Thread

Goal:10.0bpX7.25mseg Building a thicker unit, click by click, pump by pump, jelq by jelq!

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