PE and Sexual Kung Fu

I’ve just bought ‘The Multi-Orgasmic Man’, by Mantak Chia and somebody else who’s name I can’t remember, because I have decided I want to change my sexual habits once and for all.

I’m wondering if any other practicioners out there think the jelqing might interfere with practice, as I have experienced that wet jelqing particularly makes the head a bit more sensitive while desensitizing the lower part of the shaft.

Is it better to ‘self-cultivate’ after jelqing or before? Should I maybe try to keep the two things completely seperate? One in the morning one in the evening?

Maybe you have found the two don’t affect eachother at all?

I’m pretty serious about getting a fleshlight too, to help me develop these skills.

Good luck on your journey young grasshopper:)

I have a feeling if you get a fleshlight it will be the biggest part of your program:D

I dunno, Zigs: you should have checked out Werner Ashford’s thread before you jumped into “Sex Fu”. Much less expensive than buying the book…

GM

Aaah so! Thank you master Dino!

You make velly wise plediction. :nodding:

Hey GM! Good to hear from you, man. I know, it was a splurge, but it’s something I’ve been meaning to get for awhile.

Report: Well, I made my first practical step towards mastery today. Basically an edging session, paying attention to the things they tell you to in the book.

It was cool for awhile, then I went over the edge. I clamped very hard with my PC muscle, and I think I must have had a retrograde ejaculation. It really took all my effort, PC strength, and concentration to stop myself from ejaculating. I could feel whatever pumps inside pumping and trying to push out, as I clamped down. A tiny little trickle of cum made it out.

Then I tried to continue, but I lost my erection; leading me to the conclusion that I had a retrograde ejaculation. I think I had a little more energy afterwards than if I had ejaculated normally.

The wolf that comes to many homes these days just had pups in my kitchen. I sold them and here is the money…

Ummmm….. :wtf:

I have one I got back in 97’ or ‘98. It was actually NIB once. Interested?

I’m not sure what NIB is, but a used fleshlight?

Your choking my chain right?

Note to Mods: I guess this should probably go in the Mens Sexual health thread. I don’t think there’s gonna be much more about PE in it.

Report:

This morning I had an edging session.

It takes some pretty firm handling sometimes, to keep my dick hard. I think wet jelqing has really reduced the sensitivity in the lower portion of my shaft. On the other hand, you know, I’ve made some decent gains with that technique.

Although, having said that, the fact that I had to really concentrate on my manual stimulation to keep myself aroused is probably a lot to do with where I’m at energetically at the moment.

Anyways, the edging session was succesful in that I approached the point of return a few times, and managed to stop the horses from running over the edge of the cliff. I stopped in the end when the peaks of pleasure were so close together that they threatened to send me and the horses over the edge.

That’s it really. I stopped self pleasuring, and I felt fine afterwards, not really frustrated as I imagined I might have felt, or imagine I would feel after having done this for a week, and still not blown a load. There was no major PC clamping going on. I was just experimenting with arousal and stopping.

I did try the drawing techniques a little early on in the self pleasuring process, but I found that they acted like a turbo booster towards orgasm.

I guess I need to practice cool drawing, and becoming more aware and in control of my own arousal before I think about doing any ‘drawing’ in a fully erect state.

>I’m not sure what NIB is, but a used fleshlight?

New In Box, and factory sealed too. Not any more though.

>Your choking my chain right?

Aye. And I think you’d want one of the specialty inserts for your Sex Fu; most guys probably find it easier to last in a regular sleek Fleshlight than when with an even remotely attractive woman. It’s pretty good, but the other inserts will stimulate a lot more.

Ive been practicing these techniques for years and haven’t had any conflict with jelqing and sexual kung fu. They compliment each other very well. One works on the physical while the other working on the energy pathways. I only have so much time each day to devote to spanking the monkey so I often do both in the same session. PE first then multi orgasmic practice. My solo practice is mainly to be tuned up for dual practice with my wife who is very supportive of PE as well as sexual kung fu, especially since she benefits from both.

I’ll look at that, rm, thanks.

Thanks for contributing Tsuga. What do you think about ‘drawing’ accelerating me towards the orgasm/ejaculation point?

I’ve been down this road too, Zigs: just remember to shoot off every once and a while (when you get to the point where you can last indefinitely), ‘cause prostatitis is no joke…

GM

Zig,

In the beginning there’s even a stronger tendency to towards ejaculation since your building up additional energy. The key, which is what takes time to get the feel of, is to circulate it. For most men we build it up and the blow it out through ejaculation. When you build up pressure its got to go somewhere. When you learn to circulate it the pressure doesn’t build up so you can handle more and more.

I recommend 20 minutes or more of practice as usually after this much time puts a person over a sort of threshold were it becomes a lot easier and you’re not fighting to stop going over the edge. Breathing is a major part of success as well as keeping a soft, relaxed face and body.

Hope this helps. I don’t know how young you are but I agree with Gland Master that release every so often is a good idea. I wouldn’t every day but once every week or so is probably good. The older you are the less you need to release. I’m 51 and I usually only ejaculate once a month. Also practicing with a woman changes things a lot as well since you’re circulating the energy together

Thanks Tsuga.

What I’m working on, is trying to make the distance from the start of a full erection to the inevitability of orgasm last longer. So I’ll try to build up sensation over the 20 minutes before I start the edging/stopping process. Does this sound right to you?

Looking forward to getting the fleshlight, because that will make the slow build harder for me. That’s the training I’m looking for at the moment until I can seperate orgasm/ejaculation.

Did you get to the point where you could last indefinitely? What about seperating orgasm and ejaculation?