Active Deconditioning

When talking about decon breaks I’ve usually only viewed them in terms of time. In the last few days I’ve read some stuff about metallurgy that leads me to believe that activity needs to be added.

Basically, I believe that heat and massage applied to the penis will speed the deconditioning process.

Below I’ll briefly lay out why I’ve come to this conclusion.

It appears that creep and plastic deformation occur because we’re stretching our penises on the molecular level. There is a lattice work of atoms and molecules which makes up everything we see. When we increase our penis size its because we’re “dislocating” molecules from their original position in the lattice. The molecules end up in a different position in the lattice. They leave behind a gap that can be filled in with new tissue when the body is remodeling. Just imagine a brick wall; you remove a brick from the middle and place it on the top or the side and make it taller or wider.

Most of us here have increased the amount of stress we put on dicks over our original starting point. This seems necessary to many because the results appear to dwindle after a while of applying a similar amount of stress. So, we up the weight, time, vacuum, number of clamps, extender bars and so on. This mimics “work hardening” in metallurgy. Before a metal or penis experiences plastic deformation, when force is applied, it goes straight through. Once those molecular lattice gaps are present the force applied to the penis or metal gets deflected. You end up with portions of the penis getting more force application and others receiving less. We can overcome the force loss by adding more stress, but we end up getting diminishing returns. Work hardening is described as the strengthening of a metal by plastic deformation. It, like our penises, our strengthened because it was stretched.

Again, from metallurgy, there is something called annealing which lowers material strength and decreases dislocations. This, transferred to PE, would fundamentally be heating the tissue up and allowing the molecular gaps to reorganize themselves. Metal is heated above its recrystallization temp and allowed to cool slowly. As the temperature increases, many dislocations are essentially filled with replacement molecules. During tissue remodeling, I believe the body notices the gaps (dislocations) in the molecular lattice and begins to form more molecules to place in the gaps. Tissue remodeling can take years, but I believe that heating the penis and applying very light massage will increase remodeling metabolism.

Some of us are applying stress to our dicks for an hour or two (or more) per day and adding an Active Deconditioning session that matches the length of our longest working session would more than likely do us much good.

I find relatively reasonable results regularly from not being active during deconditioning. Activity during deconditioning isn’t deconditioning. However, if you want to do that it’s your perogative. I’d go through the length of taking the same amount you normally take and comparing active with inactive conditioning.

Personally what is optimum for metallurgy does not seem intuitive for living tissue that changes constantly. I hope your findings are to your liking.

I respect your opinion. You seem to know what you’re doing and your results speak volumes. However, the fact that most of us experience diminishing returns while increasing our work load indicates to me that dislocations may be part of the answer as to why that happens.

Also, I’d like to point out that when I state active deconditioning, I simply mean taking a decon break and adding heat and mild massage. If jelqing was a deep tissue massage, what I’m talking about is a super light Swedish massage. For what its worth, I just read about this stuff in the last week or two and have tried about four one hour sessions of just heating my dick up with very light massaging. I did this on four separate nights and each time woke up incredibly horny the next morning.

Does heating gives stress to the tissues?If not, I think it doesnt hinder the decon process

Heating, ice and massage are all well-known components for healing tissues and injuries. I’ve also considered using anti-inflammatories such as ibuprofen during decon.

Basically, anything which speeds up healing will aid in the decon. Treat it as you would any injury, and I believe there is sound logic in an active decon theory. Just don’t continually re-injure it, or it will not heal. Consider a bum knee or a tossed back, and how you can help it with light stretches and heat, but running and lifting will only prolong full recovery.

- Saul

Thanks, saulgoode45. The bit about heat and massage helping with healing is something I hadn’t thought about. Plus, you’re probably very right to look at being conditioned as being injured.

I agree that an active decon is effective and am living proof at the moment. It seems that I’ve gained 0.5 inches of NBPEL through my active decon consisting of 10 second stretches and fulcrum stretches, both in all directions.

Metallurgy; nice topic but sad to say completely unrelated to PE. In theory, the concept of metals and stretching the lattice sounds really cool and it works for metals but no it won’t work on your dick. See metals are just molecules thrown together,biologically inert. They can be stretched in the lattice you speak of. Your dick, or mine for that matter, are made up of biologically active cells and it is not only increasing some of these cells in size but the addition of new growth which is responsible for gains.

Now does heat and a massage( especially done by a good looking lady) help with the “healing ” process? Sure, especially the lady part. Heat brings more blood to the area and the more blood the more healing components the blood can bring.

Now for you guys that like to use anti-inflammatory remember it takes time to develop the anti inflammatory effect these drugs can bring. Yes I know it says anti inflammatory on the bottle but that takes time, a minimum of a week. Yes the analgesic and anti pyretic effect happens in 30 minutes or so but not the anti inflammatory effect.

I think this is a very interesting concept that may have some merit. If we believe heat helps in the growth phase, it seems plausible to also think Heat would help during a deconditioning break. I don’t think low-hanging fruit is implying PE in the sense of stretching and jelqing, but just applying heat and massaging your unit or even edging.

Have you tried this technique before, low-hanging fruit?

I am currently doing a deconditioning break and thought about wearing an anti-turtle sleeve as much as possible, but I wasn’t sure if that would be too much “active PE”, similar to what thoughtfulgold stated.

@sr92

A half inch is pretty good…especially NBPEL.

How much total time where each of your decon sessions? How long did your entire decon break last?

Also, I’m assuming that decon routine was much less intense than your normal routine.

How often to you plan on doing acrive decon breaks?

@extendeddick

This is my first time trying active deconditioning. I’ve taken 6 to 9 month long breaks in the past, but this active break will probably be about a month long.

My goal is to get in 30 heat and massage sessions before restarting another length routine. So far my sessions have been about 30 - 40 minutes long.

I’ve been really horny the morning after each session. I think this a nice side effect.

Also, you’re correct. I’m referring to just massage and heat, but in sr92’s example he just did a light routine.

It’d be cool to know how many people gained like this. It sounds similar to doing rehab after an injury. I’m assuming he stayed in 1st gear the whole time - as compared to his normal routine.

@thegoat

That’s correct. Heat, in general, is good for tissues.

@xtendeddick

The anti-turtle sleeve is something I’ve thought about also but decided to not use during my break. I figure the small chance of any creep forces being applied isn’t worth future gains being negatively affected.

It is tempting to keep using it though.

@Jimmybob55

You’re correct. Our molecules are biologically active and metal isn’t. My hypothesis about active deconditioning rests on the fact that the more metal is stretched the more energy it takes to stretch it…just like a penis.
A metallurgist would anneal the metal at that point.

At that point of diminishing returns is where people doing IPR would stop the I phase. This is the same point where a person smarter than me would also stop PE and do a decon break.
The only thing I’m adding to the decon is massage and heat (annealing.) Normal 3 to 9 month decon breaks haven’t done much for my progress, so I was looking for something.

It’s my hope that this’ll help me and others like me in similar circumstances.

Yeah, I thought the same thing and haven’t been using mine during my break either.