Ads vs hanging, or new product

Well I have read up a ton on this as well as trying the andro stretcher myself (what a horror) as well as seeing what a lot of the members have created which frankly seem functionally better than the commercial product even if less pretty

Both are traction devices of course and should provide the same net effect

It seems to me the reason hanging is favored over an ads is the amount of pressure that can be applied comfortably, is that correct ?

In principle thought it should be possible to get as much pressure from an ads as a reg hanger, could anyone using both give me some insight please ?? This would render hangers redundant

Well I am thinking of making an ads for myself that eliminates some of the current problems with the ad and the hangers and sharing thoughts here

The problems with both are:
-Comfort
-Convenience (ie on/off)

With hangers the problems are
-Mobility

With ads the problems are
-Insufficient continous tension
-Visability (under clothes)

A concise brief therefore for a traction device would be to provide:

-Adequate continous tension, in a lightweight, washable, compact, comfortable package with fast engagement /disengament, the unit should also have some damping to it and be quickly adjustable for length,

BASE
The main idea is to have the base ring go behind the ball sack, I have not seen this done,this will make it pretty big but much closer to the body, the greater area pushing against non-sensetive body parts should provide an ample backstop against which to push from and get adequate tension

HEAD RETRAINT
Is there a conscensus out there which system provides the most comfortable head grip that is easy on / off / adjustable

EXTENDER
I don’t have as solid idea here, but some kind of constant yet elastic tension would be preferable over a fixed tension

Lastly if I think about traction per se it seems to me that the best way to get an increase in lenght over time would be to cycle through tension / non-tension states ie a cam that pushes from mild tension to extreme tension for a couple seconds
This would require some kind of battery and small electric motor and a cam (not for office use obviously)

Comments ?

It seems to me the reason hanging is favored over an ads is the amount of pressure that can be applied comfortably, is that correct ?

It’s the old moving a stationary object thing. More force applied over less time can equal a bigger displacement. If you’re moving a couch, it’s friction your are dealing with, with a penis its more about the actual strength of the tissue you are trying to (carefully) rip apart.

I’d mostly agree with your breakdown of ADS devices but I would add that I think there is a possibility with ADS of actually strengthening the penis with the application of too small a force. The body’s ability to adapt and strengthen where necessary is quite incredible and I think a lot of people who get into ADS may actually be building themselves a problem for PE rather than a solution.

Is there a conscensus out there which system provides the most comfortable head grip that is easy on / off / adjustable

Anything that provides pressure to the sides while not restricting bloodflow too much is probably a winner here. The mix of wrap and restraint mechanism can be decisive.

I don't have as solid idea here, but some kind of constant yet elastic tension would be preferable over a fixed tension

A constant tension is probably a good thing in many ways. Variable tension is interesting but if it lowers to a level where the force applied is effectively useless, what is the point. That said sporadic increase in tension may be useful, the restraint is probably always going to be creating tension in such a manner that blood may flow relatively unimpeded. But are you stating this in the environment of a moving body? Moving can change lot of things in an ADS device, simply going from standing to sitting will effect the best ADS design.

Memento- you said

“I’d mostly agree with your breakdown of ADS devices but I would add that I think there is a possibility with ADS of actually strengthening the penis with the application of too small a force.”

so do you also think all day hanging is a bad idea? are you talking about ADS on it’s own? right now I am hanging in the AM and then using PE weights throughout the day. I think the benefit there is keeping it in more of an extended state. The same could be achieved with ADS after hanging?

so would you recommend against ADH and ADS as a stand alone?

Not long ago I was thinking in the same lines as you although my thoughtprocess was a bit different. I thought to myself ‘Hmmm I want to use my stretcher again but without a hosering and be able to use more tension….hey let’s build a mini-hanger for it’. The hosering of my previous stretcher was pissing me off because the end always stuck in my leg and I wasn’t getting much lateral pressure.

The style of hangers I prefer are pretty big so I had to do some trading off on the closing mechanism which was ok because I would be using less tension and needed to be able to wear it for more than 20mins (which is how long my hangingsessions last) without my glans turning cold.

My current contraption does it’s job so long I don’t get hard which makes the minihanger slide a little. The cord closing mechanism could still use some work and the whole thing is still a bit bulky but no sharp edges :)

You’re right about the basering being more comfortable behind the balls. I’ve been using that since my first stretcher and I love it :)

Btw I’ve already replaced the basering of the stretcher in my sig by a better one.