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Advice on circumcision style for PE gains

Unfortunately, I have a case of BXO and scarring/tightening/lesions on my foreskin. My best option for this annoying condition which will not heal and may possibly spread is circumcision.

I am not getting this for cosmetic reasons, or any other reasons besides the fact that I want this condition to resolve and this procedure is the best bet. I’d rather some loss of sensitivity vs. Tons of white patches that spread all over my glans and impact my urethra. I’ve enjoyed my life uncut up to this point, but I’ve accepted it and no longer care.

That being said, should I ask for a “loose” style to allow for easier PE gains in the future? I’ve made almost an inch in gains so far in my PE career (mostly in the last year while I’ve been very dedicated), but I do think I have room for more.

Another argument for a looser style: I do have some “turkey neck” where by scrotum rises up on the underside of the shaft, as well as some hairs going up my shaft. In other words, my unit’s skin is already tight and doesn’t feel long during erections (tight frenulum too), so I’m hoping the circumcision can resolve this in the process by pulling the skin down during the cut. Two birds with one stone.

Anyone have any advice or experience?

What does your urologist say?


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

Haha coming from a anti circumcision activist. You have to do what is healthiest since you have an existing condition.

If your urologist says that is up to you then you should honesty what you are MOST comfortable with. I personally would choose as loose as possible. But that is ME for MY body.

I am not a urologist nor am I you.


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Start: BPEL 6.3" EG 5.1"

Now: BPEL 7.5" EG 5.7" Goal: MORE

Yes, circumcised in my late teens. I’d go for looser.


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Originally Posted by firegoat
Yes, circumcised in my late teens. I’d go for looser.

Do you know if being cut “loose” will allow the skin to elongate a bit on my shaft, reducing the turkey neck and helping the scrotum on the underside to go back down from the extra skin length? I think the turkey neck I have may also have to do with a tight frenulum. Maybe I can talk to the urologist about this before the surgery. But I have to keep in mind that he is no cosmetic surgeon so may have no clue what I’m talking about. I don’t want to come out worse off than I am.

Btw firegoat, I want to thank you. All these years I’ve been lurking, I’ve learned a ton from you and other vets around here.

Originally Posted by Mrcsmxx
Haha coming from a anti circumcision activist. You have to do what is healthiest since you have an existing condition.

If your urologist says that is up to you then you should honesty what you are MOST comfortable with. I personally would choose as loose as possible. But that is ME for MY body.

I am not a urologist nor am I you.

I wish I did not have to do this, but it is likely my best option at this point. If I ever have a son I will not be getting him cut and will leave it up to him.

Going for a looser cut.

Originally Posted by PresentTense098
Do you know if being cut “loose” will allow the skin to elongate a bit on my shaft, reducing the turkey neck and helping the scrotum on the underside to go back down from the extra skin length? I think the turkey neck I have may also have to do with a tight frenulum. Maybe I can talk to the urologist about this before the surgery. But I have to keep in mind that he is no cosmetic surgeon so may have no clue what I’m talking about. I don’t want to come out worse off than I am.

Btw firegoat, I want to thank you. All these years I’ve been lurking, I’ve learned a ton from you and other vets around here.


It’s unlikely to make any difference to an existing turkey neck. A tight frenulum may have a small effect on turkey neck, but not a great deal - I would expect the ‘length’ of your turkey neck to be comparatively greater than the length of your frenulum.
This brings up an important subject: some forms of circumcision remove the frenulum and some do not. Removing the frenulum may have a small effect on the turkey neck, but I would absolutely recommend you keep your frenulum if at all possible. It is loaded with nerve endings which are good to retain.

If your urologist doesn’t understand about turkey neck, I would be extremely surprised. Most urologists have a ‘preferred surgery’ when it comes to circumcision, one that they have had good results with and which they can practically do in their sleep. That may be a loose cut, a low tight cut, etc. with or without frenulum removal etc. If you discuss your preferences, a good surgeon should be able to accommodate them, especially if you are paying for your own surgery.

Regardless I expect, like me, you will be happy with the results. If I hadn’t needed to be circumcised I wouldn’t have voluntarily had it done. But I wouldn’t have my foreskin back if I could magically click my fingers and have it reappear. I had years of a perfectly normal foreskin, easy to retract etc. until it got torn. So my experience is ‘normal foreskin’ vs ‘circumcised’. Being done by a British surgeon I had a fairly loose cut, and prefer it to having a full foreskin.

Thanks for the kind words. Frankly I’m slightly horrified by my post count here. I started trying to retire at 7500 posts and in fact took a full year off, but was then persuaded back and became an admin as well as a mod for a few years. It’s a wonderful community, but despite the length of this reply, I really am retired now :D


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All injuries happen from "too much", or "too much, too soon" or "doing the exercise incorrectly".

Heat makes the difference between gaining quickly or slowly for some guys, or between gaining slowly instead of not at all for others. The ideal penis size is 7.6" BPEL x 5.6" Mid Girth. Basics.... firegoat roll How to use the Search button for best results

Originally Posted by firegoat
It’s unlikely to make any difference to an existing turkey neck. A tight frenulum may have a small effect on turkey neck, but not a great deal - I would expect the ‘length’ of your turkey neck to be comparatively greater than the length of your frenulum.
This brings up an important subject: some forms of circumcision remove the frenulum and some do not. Removing the frenulum may have a small effect on the turkey neck, but I would absolutely recommend you keep your frenulum if at all possible. It is loaded with nerve endings which are good to retain.

Gotcha. I will discuss with him before the surgery.

You got circumcised before PE I’m guessing, but how long would you recommend waiting to PE again afterwards? I heal very quickly thanks to my healthy lifestyle, but I do not want to create scar tissue or damage. Like, superficial wounds may be healed but maybe there is a deeper layer that needs to be healed before resuming?

Originally Posted by PresentTense098
Gotcha. I will discuss with him before the surgery.

You got circumcised before PE I’m guessing, but how long would you recommend waiting to PE again afterwards? I heal very quickly thanks to my healthy lifestyle, but I do not want to create scar tissue or damage. Like, superficial wounds may be healed but maybe there is a deeper layer that needs to be healed before resuming?

Very true. It takes many months to heal. I guess I was too impatient. I got circumcised recently, read more if you like here: Bangel77 - Foreskin: Cut Or Not to cut

I recommend you a low cut, be it tight or loose. When being circumcised as adult in many cases high cuts don’t look that good. The inner foreskin is very uneven, of different color and might look thicker than the outer foreskin. It definitely won’t look like a cut done before adulthood. In case the look is important for you…

And, yes please discuss everything. You will live with your cut afterwards, not your surgeon.


Stats: 06/2011: BPEL: 13 cm; MSEG: 10 cm; 04/2022: BPEL: 20 cm; MSEG: 14 cm

Goal would be: BPEL: 20 cm => reached 03/2022; MSEG: 15 cm

Bangel77's Journey More pictures: Post full body pics here (p. 216)

Originally Posted by PresentTense098
You got circumcised before PE I’m guessing, but how long would you recommend waiting to PE again afterwards? I heal very quickly thanks to my healthy lifestyle, but I do not want to create scar tissue or damage. Like, superficial wounds may be healed but maybe there is a deeper layer that needs to be healed before resuming?


I’d avoid masturbation for 4-6 weeks (depending on how healing is going and how gentle you can be), sex for 8 weeks (maybe 6 weeks with a condom), and PE for a minimum of 12 weeks. Take PE very slowly and gently to start with.

After initial healing (where infection is the primary risk), the ongoing risk is causing inflammation around the scar tissue. Inflammation will basically ‘inflame’ into the healthy tissue around the scar tissue, causing damage at a cellular level which then has to heal. That slows the entire healing process and risks making the scar more noticeable.


firegoat is fully RETIRED from Thundersplace.

All injuries happen from "too much", or "too much, too soon" or "doing the exercise incorrectly".

Heat makes the difference between gaining quickly or slowly for some guys, or between gaining slowly instead of not at all for others. The ideal penis size is 7.6" BPEL x 5.6" Mid Girth. Basics.... firegoat roll How to use the Search button for best results

Originally Posted by firegoat
I’d avoid masturbation for 4-6 weeks (depending on how healing is going and how gentle you can be), sex for 8 weeks (maybe 6 weeks with a condom), and PE for a minimum of 12 weeks. Take PE very slowly and gently to start with.

After initial healing (where infection is the primary risk), the ongoing risk is causing inflammation around the scar tissue. Inflammation will basically ‘inflame’ into the healthy tissue around the scar tissue, causing damage at a cellular level which then has to heal. That slows the entire healing process and risks making the scar more noticeable.

Appreciate the advice. My only hope is I don’t lose too many gains during those 12 weeks. Definitely anxiety-inducing. I feel like I haven’t been going consistently long enough for such a large deconditioning break.

I would avoid circumcision at all costs and cure myself. You cannot rely on an urologist to cure you because he is allopathic in essence. Your condition might have its roots in some nutritional deficiency or toxicity that can be as simple as gluten.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by Bangel77
Very true. It takes many months to heal. I guess I was too impatient. I got circumcised recently, read more if you like here: Bangel77 - Foreskin: Cut Or Not to cut

I recommend you a low cut, be it tight or loose. When being circumcised as adult in many cases high cuts don’t look that good. The inner foreskin is very uneven, of different color and might look thicker than the outer foreskin. It definitely won’t look like a cut done before adulthood. In case the look is important for you..

And, yes please discuss everything. You will live with your cut afterwards, not your surgeon.

Thanks for sharing your experience. How are things doing for you these days with PE and sexual activity after the circumcision?

Originally Posted by igigi
I would avoid circumcision at all costs and cure myself. You cannot rely on an urologist to cure you because he is allopathic in essence. Your condition might have its roots in some nutritional deficiency or toxicity that can be as simple as gluten.

If I could cure myself, I would. There is no getting rid of the inelastic scar tissue that has formed.

All blood tests I’ve received indicate excellent vitamin and mineral status, especially vitamin D and B12. I go out of my way to eat an extremely nutrient-dense whole foods diet combined with supplements and vigorously exercise 5-6x per week. I maintain a very low body fat percentage and have stable blood sugar. I have no food intolerances.

Unfortunately, this is something that has happened and no medical literature can indicate an exact cause for lichen sclerosus. Perhaps genetic causes. I’ve exhausted my options.

Originally Posted by PresentTense098
Thanks for sharing your experience. How are things doing for you these days with PE and sexual activity after the circumcision?

Thank you. As you can see I’m quite into PE right now doing really intense stuff. No problems left. Since this is a surgery, there is a scar. My pictures can hopefully give an idea how it might look afterwards. The scar continues to change for better, hopefully will be almost invisible in the end and skin will get ever thinner. But I’m ok with the way it is even now.

Originally Posted by PresentTense098
All blood tests I’ve received indicate excellent vitamin and mineral status, especially vitamin D and B12. I go out of my way to eat an extremely nutrient-dense whole foods diet combined with supplements and vigorously exercise 5-6x per week. I maintain a very low body fat percentage and have stable blood sugar. I have no food intolerances.

That sounds like a really healthy lifestyle. You’re probably not making only a bigger penis but also ripped body… Are you really in Antarctica?


Stats: 06/2011: BPEL: 13 cm; MSEG: 10 cm; 04/2022: BPEL: 20 cm; MSEG: 14 cm

Goal would be: BPEL: 20 cm => reached 03/2022; MSEG: 15 cm

Bangel77's Journey More pictures: Post full body pics here (p. 216)

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