Jelqing vs Angion Method

Can we draw a comparison between the two :-

1. Jelqinq is an effective and proven form of PE exercise , the same cannot be said about The Angion Method as it is relatively new.

2. Both these exercises promote blood flow to the penis but jelqing also works on the soft tissues of the corpus cavernosum thus increasing size. The Angion Method does the same thing but the its ability to increase length or girth is still a matter of debate.

3. As for EQ , AM is observed to be more effective.

4. Safety - The AM method is safer than Jelqing.

Hmm….everyone’s thinking still…

I have been doing the AM for just over four weeks now. While I have performed thousands of jelqs in the past few years, I will likely never perform another one. I never really considered how we are pushing blood backwards against the valves in our veins, until someone asked if doing the AM exercises were dangerous because they worked against the valves. The answer is of course, no. Because AM pushes blood in the direction it should be flowing, and jelqing, which we all have likely done a ton of, actually pushes against the natural flow of things.

Natural or non natural both exercises promote healthy blood flow to the penis, hence why millions have better EQ after jelqing.

I haven’t been performing AM for long enough but my general feeling is it’s a better girth exercise than jelqing. With jelqing at lower erection levels being a better length exercise but I could be horribly wrong.

I dont know what people on this forum thinks about how we grow from PE, but from what i have read i believe that the tunica is always the limiting factor.

To increace the blood hold capacity of the CC you have to enlarge the tunica, because the tunica provides a “body’ for the penis.

To increace the size of a connective tissue you have to apply enough tension to cause growth. Jelqing strokes when done at some erection level they apply a good amount of stress to the tunica.

At the end of a mid-erection (50 - 70%) jelqing stroke, the pressure is at its highest.
So the blood expansion forces the tunica and the hand movement stretches the tunica.

I cant see how someone can apply the required tension and stress with the Angion Method.

AM does not rely on microtears to be formed through tension and stress. AM triggers a process called mechanotransduction by stimulating the glycocalyx through shear stress caused by increased rate of blood flow through the penile vascular system. This then triggers the formation of new blood vessels, which increases the size of the penis from the inside out.

At least that’s the story.

Fixed.

Sorry but that isn’t the way it works. You see blood vessels are stupid. They only perform 2 functions in the body; bring food to the tissues ( cells) and take away poop. That’s all they do. When the tissue has enough blood vessels to bring them the food they need and the poop they don’t want then no more vessels are needed. The body likes to conserve energy and if the tissue is not calling for more food and waste removal there is no reason for the body to make new vessels. It’s just stupid.

Now can a vessel repair itself or even make a new vessel or two if it has been damaged? Yes! Why? Because the tissue needs food. Does the body make more blood vessels than the tissue needs? Nope.

You guys know what a hemangioma is? It’s a large collection of blood vessels. It”s abnormal. They can occur anywhere in the body. A friend of mine had one in her cervical spine and found out during the stress of pregnancy. She lost the use of her legs as the pregnancy hormones made ii increase. Some are visible; in the mouth, the skin. On the skin most people refer to them as birthmarks. They’re reddish in color. I know a few folks that have them. Now if more blood vessels, and hemangiomas are just pure blood vessels, makes tissue grow then why do these people still have birthmarks? Shouldn’t the tissue grow and cover them ( leaving them with a big lump I guess) is response to all these blood vessels? Like I said; it is growth of tissue that increases the formation of blood vessels and not the other way around.

So, you are firmly in the “Jelqing trumps AM” camp then?

I tried it for a while. Didn’t think much of it. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t. Who really knows. I do know if it works it has nothing to do with his reasons for it working which are all biologically wrong but many things work for the wrong reasons.

Now that thread is funny. Some guy has an itchy neck and that must be from this new method and it may be a sign of growth. Maybe it’s a rash. Some of those guys are really strange!

Yeah, that’s likely the old “Correlation MUST equal causation” line of thought. Our bodies do weird stuff. Sometimes for no real reason at all.

You might be right, but that’s not Janus’s theory.

Janus’s explanation of gains from the AM is not based on plastic deformation like that caused by jelqing, rather by stimulating the glycocalyx and triggering mechanotransduction.

He could be wrong.

You really think you can be an expert on all what you just said and fluid dynamics and mechanics, cellular biology, and vasculature physiology by reading stuff on the internet? Some of us actually went to these things like universities and opened books and had all these weird people called professors who loved to bust your ass.

Our bodies rarely do weird stuff. They are much smarter than their owners. In fact I don’t know why mine puts up with me sometimes.

I see what you’re saying, but I think you’re looking at it a bit wrong. How does the body know when it does need to make new blood vessels?

Does it measure the amount of poop coming out, send it to the brain, then the brain sends back growth triggers?

Does it measure the oxygen coming in,send it to the brain, then the brain sends back growth triggers?

Or, could the increased blood flow triggered from an increase in the need of oxygen trigger the formation of blood vessels? Which is the simplest (stupidest) mechanism?

I think this is how the AM theoretically works. It tricks your body into thinking that your dick needs a ton of blood because it is being pumped through there so quickly. I don’t think your dick cares whether your heart or your finger is pumping it through. I don’t think the blood vessels care about anything (oxygen or poop) other than pumping the blood through that they are asked to as efficiently as possible.